Is anyone else a Seer?

[Peterlag]

One still needs tho listen to that still small voice.

The "still small voice" scripture is found in 1 Kings 19:11-12, describing how the prophet Elijah heard the voice of the Lord after a great wind, earthquake, and fire. The passage states that God was not in the powerful phenomena but in the quiet voice that followed, which is often interpreted as God speaking gently to those who listen in stillness

You must check it against the Holy Spirit’s witness in your spirit and against the Bible to verify that the advice you have heard is the right advice for you in your given circumstance.

Only the Holy Spirit knows what is fully good and right for you on a daily basis. Any other opinion can be only a part of the full truth, which is known by the Holy Spirit.

In John 14–16, Jesus refers to the Holy Spirit repeatedly as the Spirit of truth and tells us he will lead us into all truth.We need the Holy Spirit in our lives just as much as we need a relationship with our heavenly Father and with His Son, Jesus Christ.

The Holy Spirit is part of the holy Trinity—Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.You need Him just as much as you need Father and Son. In fact, the Holy Spirit makes possible your ongoing Christian life and enables you both to experience Christ and to have a relationship with the Father. The Holy Spirit enables you to have a sense of victory in your Christian walk. You need Him at work in you and through you if you are to fulfill your earthly destiny in Christ and become the person that the Father created you to be. He is the voice of God.

And you also have "walking in the Spirit" That means to live a life guided by the Holy Spirit, which involves yielding to its control, obeying God's will, and not giving in to fleshly desires. It implies a consistent, daily life of spiritual progress, transformation, and obedience, rather than being ruled by sinful impulses.

There seems to be much confusion concerning the Comforter...​

The spirit that all Christians have was first called the comforter by Jesus. It helps us if we are plugged into walking by the spirit.

John 14:16-17
And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

Almost every English version translates John 14:17 similarly to “even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him.” Translators capitalize “Spirit” and use “he” and “him” because of their theology. The Greek word “spirit” is neuter and the text could also be translated as “the spirit of truth” and paired with “which” and “it.” The New American Bible reads “which the world cannot accept, because it neither sees nor knows it.”

 

[dwight92070]

The Holy Spirit is not and "it", The Holy Spirit is a "He". He is a Person with a personality. He has a mind. He intercedes for us. He has emotions. He can be grieved. The Holy Spirit communicates with us. He can be lied to. He can be insulted. As Christians we have a relationship with the Holy Spirit. Paul uses "the Holy Spirit" interchangeably with "the Spirit of God" and the "Spirit of Christ." Romans 8:9-10

 

[Peterlag]

The Holy Spirit is not and "it", The Holy Spirit is a "He". He is a Person with a personality. He has a mind. He intercedes for us. He has emotions. He can be grieved. The Holy Spirit communicates with us. He can be lied to. He can be insulted. As Christians we have a relationship with the Holy Spirit. Paul uses "the Holy Spirit" interchangeably with "the Spirit of God" and the "Spirit of Christ." Romans 8:9-10

The spirit cannot be lied to. You are confusing the spirit of Christ that I mentioned in my comment with The Holy Spirit who is God. I wrote the following for people like you...

There seems to be much confusion concerning the Comforter...​

The spirit that all Christians have was first called the comforter by Jesus. It helps us if we are plugged into walking by the spirit.

John 14:16-17
And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

Almost every English version translates John 14:17 similarly to “even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him.” Translators capitalize “Spirit” and use “he” and “him” because of their theology. The Greek word “spirit” is neuter and the text could also be translated as “the spirit of truth” and paired with “which” and “it.” The New American Bible reads “which the world cannot accept, because it neither sees nor knows it.”

 

[charismaticlady]

The spirit cannot be lied to. You are confusing the spirit of Christ that I mentioned in my comment with The Holy Spirit who is God. I wrote the following for people like you...

There seems to be much confusion concerning the Comforter...​

The spirit that all Christians have was first called the comforter by Jesus. It helps us if we are plugged into walking by the spirit.

John 14:16-17
And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

Almost every English version translates John 14:17 similarly to “even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him.” Translators capitalize “Spirit” and use “he” and “him” because of their theology. The Greek word “spirit” is neuter and the text could also be translated as “the spirit of truth” and paired with “which” and “it.” The New American Bible reads “which the world cannot accept, because it neither sees nor knows it.”

Whether the Holy Spirit is a "He" or an "It" the word should be capitalized to separate the God Spirit from the human spirit.

Peter, there is one place that the Spirit should be published as spirit and I hold the publishers of Galatians 5:17 at fault for that. It can be compared to Romans 7:25 and shows us that our spirit is our mind and why we who have the Spirit of Christ also are given the mind of Christ. The human mind of the OT Jews can know the Ten Commandments and keep them as the Jews did, but they are kept in opposition to their nature before Christ renewed our minds.

 

[charismaticlady]

Paul also said, "If anyone thinks he is a prophet or spiritual (that would be you), let him recognize that the things which I write to you (that includes ALL of Paul's letters to the churches) "ARE THE LORD'S COMMANDMENT." 1 Cor.14:37
Then Paul doubles down with a warning in vs. 38: "But if anyone does not recognize this (that would be you), he is not to be recognized." So you are NOT to be recognized as a teacher in the body of Christ.
Just because Paul said, "I do not allow ...", that does not mean that "God does allow ...", so once again, you cannot see "the one and only meaning" here.
What Paul IS doing here is ASSERTING HIS AUTHORITY as an apostle appointed by Jesus Himself.

I am not scoffing. I am warning - you are rejecting THE LORD'S COMMANDMENT. It makes NO difference if some voice that you identify as God tells you otherwise. Any voice that contradicts the Scripture, which includes ALL of Paul's letters, is NOT to be listened to.

You said: And it doesn't surprise me that you are male.

EDIT

Men are not better than women. Obviously, we sin too. But that doesn't change the fact that God ordained certain roles on the earth, and specifically in the church - for men and certain roles for women. And teaching in the body of Christ is a man's role, unless the woman is teaching other women.

You have said that one of your main sins from the past was adultery. EDIT

You are a walking example of the truth of what Paul warned the church about:

"And it was not Adam who was deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression." Eve could have avoided falling into sin, if she would have consulted with her "head", her husband Adam. He would have told her, "Don't listen to the serpent. Obey God and don't eat from that tree."

Women who reject the authorities that God placed over them and/or the authority of the Scripture WILL be deceived.

Did you know that scholars suspect that 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 were added at a later date by someone other than Paul? If so, then they are not a commandment of God's. And 1 Timothy is not a commandment of God's either, but Paul's Jewish opinion as in the culture he was raised in, women were ignorant and couldn't even read. Not so anymore.

 

[charismaticlady]

Yeah there are such churches, led by "tares among the wheat", basically false prophets or false teachers, but there are some good ones too. I have told you before but you don't listen. I am NOT a part of ANY denomination. I am part of a homechurch and have been since 2001. We are not under the authority of any parent organization. We're under the headship of Jesus.

I was born again, born of the Spirit - John 3:3-8, "through the living and enduring Word of God." 1 Peter 1:23 - on September 20, 1970 as I was reading Matthew 5:6.

As believers today, we don't live our lives directed by the Old Testament. Yes the Old Testament is God's Word and Paul tells us that we learn from it. 1 Cor.10:6,11

But Jesus said we are to OBSERVE all that He commanded us, Matthew 28:20, NOT the Law or the Prophets. Paul made it perfectly clear that he was not under the Law, nor should we be. 1 Cor.9:21 "To the Jews I became as a Jew, so that I might win Jews; to those who are under the Law, as under the Law THOUGH NOT BEING MYSELF UNDER THE LAW, ..."

So just because Elijah heard a still small voice, that does NOT mean that we too should be listening for that still small voice. That is one of the deceptions that women who attempt to teach men in the body of Christ, have fallen into. When they disobey and decide to teach men, even when they know that Paul said not to, they open themselves up to much deception. And of course, many men who don't adhere closely to what the Bible says, have also been deceived by that same false interpretation.

Going by that mistaken reasoning, then we should also be listening and seeing thunder and lightning flashes and hearing a loud trumpet blast, whenever God speaks, because that's exactly what Moses and the children of Israel saw and heard when God spoke to them from Mt. Sinai in Exodus 19:16. Also the ground should quake violently. Verse 18.

There are also several other verses that speak of the Lord's voice as powerful. Ps.29:3-4; Ez.43:2; Rev.1:10; Rev.14:2

So you see that sometimes God DOES speak in a powerful voice. To limit Him to only "a still small voice" is to totally misunderstand the Bible. But again, we observe what Jesus commanded in the New Covenant, we don't live our lives according to events or even laws in the Old Covenant or the Prophets. We're under the New Law of Christ, according to Paul.

I agree with your description of God's voice to His children - us. I'm sorry if you have been taught not to listen for his voice because it will be a demon. But I have heard God's voice and, yes, it is powerful, and can fill your whole mind. There is no mistaking it, and it is always truth, not the lies of demons.

I'm glad you are in a home church. I envy you. But even home churches are usually started by Protestants this side of the Reformation and are still affected by some of their false teachings. From what you have said about opening yourself up to demons, it sounds very Calvinistic as John Calvin started the doctrine of cessationism - the ceasing of all the gifts, signs and wonders of the first century. Jesus even said of that cult, "you have a name/reputation that you are alive, but you are dead." Make sure the doctrines you adhere to have the power of the Holy Spirit included as they are part of the New Covenant, and nothing changes or ceases inside the length of the covenant. Therefore, all the gifts, signs and wonders that God's Spirit chooses to give us are still of God. Satan cannot create a gift; only counterfeit one. That is why psychic mediums can see colored auras around and person they focus on. Satan counterfeited that from the true gift that God has given me. And unlike seeing colors around just anyone, there is a purpose to this wonder. I can tell if a person presenting a sermon is anointed or not. It has to do with the anointing of God, not random minutia.

We've spent so much time on women teaching that I cannot remember what you believe or don't believe, so tell me what you believe that is different from what I believe, if you remember what I teach.

 

[Peterlag]

Whether the Holy Spirit is a "He" or an "It" the word should be capitalized to separate the God Spirit from the human spirit.

Peter, there is one place that the Spirit should be published as spirit and I hold the publishers of Galatians 5:17 at fault for that. It can be compared to Romans 7:25 and shows us that our spirit is our mind and why we who have the Spirit of Christ also are given the mind of Christ. The human mind of the OT Jews can know the Ten Commandments and keep them as the Jews did, but they are kept in opposition to their nature before Christ renewed our minds.

The words “HOLY SPIRIT” in the Bible are primarily used in two very different ways: One way is to refer to God Himself and the other is referring to God’s nature that He gives to people. God is holy and is spirit and therefore “the Holy Spirit” with a capital “H” and a capital “S” is one of the many “names” or designations for God. God gives His holy spirit nature to people as a gift and when HOLY SPIRIT is used that way it should be translated as the “holy spirit” with a lowercase “h” and a lowercase “s.”

 

[charismaticlady]

The words “HOLY SPIRIT” in the Bible are primarily used in two very different ways: One way is to refer to God Himself and the other is referring to God’s nature that He gives to people. God is holy and is spirit and therefore “the Holy Spirit” with a capital “H” and a capital “S” is one of the many “names” or designations for God. God gives His holy spirit nature to people as a gift and when HOLY SPIRIT is used that way it should be translated as the “holy spirit” with a lowercase “h” and a lowercase “s.”

I can see your point. Like we can partake of the divine nature of God. 2 Peter 1:4. But I will still capitalize the "H" and "S" and write it in a different way, as I've never seen "holy spirit nature" in the Bible. I would use divine nature of God.

 

[Peterlag]

I can see your point. Like we can partake of the divine nature of God. 2 Peter 1:4. But I will still capitalize the "H" and "S" and write it in a different way, as I've never seen "holy spirit nature" in the Bible. I would use divine nature of God.

holy spirit nature...
I like the way the NIV has it...

2 Corinthians 5:17
Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, the new creation has come: The old has gone, the new is here!

 

[charismaticlady]

holy spirit nature...
I like the way the NIV has it...

2 Corinthians 5:17
Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, the new creation has come: The old has gone, the new is here!

Yes, but that still doesn't use "holy spirit nature." We have the Spirit of Christ. I'm not going to quibble over capitalizations except for the error in Galatians 5:17 when "spirit" is "Spirit." It is the human spirit of a non-Christian, our mind, that fights against the flesh, not the Holy Spirit in a true Christian fighting against the flesh. Those who have the Holy Spirit walk in the Spirit and not in the flesh; therefore, there is no fighting the flesh that has been cleansed.

 

[Peterlag]

Yes, but that still doesn't use "holy spirit nature." We have the Spirit of Christ. I'm not going to quibble over capitalizations except for the error in Galatians 5:17 when "spirit" is "Spirit." It is the human spirit of a non-Christian, our mind, that fights against the flesh, not the Holy Spirit in a true Christian fighting against the flesh. Those who have the Holy Spirit walk in the Spirit and not in the flesh; therefore, there is no fighting the flesh that has been cleansed.

I agree with too much of what you just said to bicker with you. I probably can come up with a few words that would fit our English word nature if I looked around.

Peter has the same mindset as Paul when he writes in 1 Peter "that we, being dead to sins,..." Peter goes on to say that Christ suffered once for sins so as to bring us to God, and so this is why the Scripture reads "being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:" Again, the old man crucified and the new man put in its place. Peter again, "ceased from sin;..." Put that mindset on or as Peter writes "arm yourself likewise with the same mind:" Because he that has suffered in the flesh or was crucified in the flesh has put on the new man because the other one is dead. That new person "hath ceased from sin;..."

 

[charismaticlady]

I agree with too much of what you just said to bicker with you. I probably can come up with a few words that would fit our English word nature if I looked around.

Peter has the same mindset as Paul when he writes in 1 Peter "that we, being dead to sins,..." Peter goes on to say that Christ suffered once for sins so as to bring us to God, and so this is why the Scripture reads "being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:" Again, the old man crucified and the new man put in its place. Peter again, "ceased from sin;..." Put that mindset on or as Peter writes "arm yourself likewise with the same mind:" Because he that has suffered in the flesh or was crucified in the flesh has put on the new man because the other one is dead. That new person "hath ceased from sin;..."

Exactly!

Many Christians on Christian forums will not believe that the sin nature is dead. But you and I do which unites us. Do all Unitarians believe like we do? I don't know anything about Unitarians.

 

[Peterlag]

Exactly!

Many Christians on Christian forums will not believe that the sin nature is dead. But you and I do which unites us. Do all Unitarians believe like we do? I don't know anything about Unitarians.

You are the only person I know that believes the sin nature is dead.

 

[charismaticlady]

You are the only person I know that believes the sin nature is dead.

So you are also saying that Unitarians do not believe that Jesus takes away the sin in our nature so that we may partake of the divine nature of God? They say you are Unitarian, is that true? But if they believe we will always have a sin nature, why don't you leave all denominations like I did? To me you do not sound like a Unitarian at all.

 

[Peterlag]

So you are also saying that Unitarians do not believe that Jesus takes away the sin in our nature so that we may partake of the divine nature of God? They say you are Unitarian, is that true? But if they believe we will always have a sin nature, why don't you leave all denominations like I did? To me you do not sound like a Unitarian at all.

I am not with a church, nor have I ever been a member of a church or any denomination.

 

[Victoria]

Many Christians on Christian forums will not believe that the sin nature is dead.

Greetings charismaticlady,

It says in Romans 7:14-25; 1 John 1:8-10 that we still have a sin nature even as Christians. It's a war between the flesh vs. spirit.
How could the sin nature therefore be dead when scripture says otherwise?

It's not that we refuse to believe the sin nature is dead, but more b/c God tells us that's simply not the case in His Word.

 

[charismaticlady]

Greetings charismaticlady,

It says in Romans 7:14-25; 1 John 1:8-10 that we still have a sin nature even as Christians. It's a war between the flesh vs. spirit.
How could the sin nature therefore be dead when scripture says otherwise?

It's not that we refuse to believe the sin nature is dead, but more b/c God tells us that's simply not the case in His Word.

Did you learn that in some Church and you didn't check it out to see the CONTEXT? Run from that denomination, fast. They have not studied the eastern writing styles of the Apostles and preach ignorantly.

Romans 7:
5 For when we were in the flesh (past tense), the sinful passions which were aroused by the law were at work in our members to bear fruit to death. 6 But now we have been delivered from the law, having died to what we were held by, so that we should serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? Certainly not! On the contrary, I would not have known sin except through the law.

CONTEXT, CONTEXT, CONTEXT!!!

Paul is talking about the Law of Moses, the Ten Commandment. Then he goes on to show what it was like being under the Law of Moses - 14-25, and verse 24 who saved us from sin, JESUS CHRIST! Then keep reading chapter 8.

2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free (still using a personal present pronoun if the word "I" tripped you up, which is our western interpretation of the eastern writing (common) from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, on account of sin: He condemned sin in the flesh, 4 that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.

Paul is saying that the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus freed him from Romans 7:14-25!!!

Read 1 John 1:8-10 in the light of 1 John 2:4 " He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

So what is the lie? Read verse 9: If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

So you've been taught that the born again are still a sinner? Pure ignorance. John says in the 1st verse of the next chapter, My little children, these things I write to you, so that you may not sin. John isn't saying to us you will always be a sinner even now that you are in Christ. Read the third chapter! Jesus was manifest (came) to TAKE AWAY OUR SIN, and in Him there is no sin.

This last part of verse one of chapter 2 is the same meaning as in John's gospel, 1 John 2:1b "And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous. 2 And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world." Compare to: John 3:16-17 16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.

 

[charismaticlady]

I am not with a church, nor have I ever been a member of a church or any denomination.

I have - three! I go to different churches now just to see with this new seer gift God gave me if their sermons are anointed or not. Last week I went to a Pentecostal church (one of my favorites as I also have all but two of the gifts of the Spirit and they show the largest anointings) and this substitute pastor had a smallest blue halo around his head that I've seen there, but as soon as he started speading up his talking and acting Pentecostal, the anointing ceased and didn't return until he stopped acting in the flesh. Interesting.

None of the churches I've visited believe we are dead to sin.

 

[charismaticlady]

I agree with too much of what you just said to bicker with you. I probably can come up with a few words that would fit our English word nature if I looked around.

Peter has the same mindset as Paul when he writes in 1 Peter "that we, being dead to sins,..." Peter goes on to say that Christ suffered once for sins so as to bring us to God, and so this is why the Scripture reads "being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:" Again, the old man crucified and the new man put in its place. Peter again, "ceased from sin;..." Put that mindset on or as Peter writes "arm yourself likewise with the same mind:" Because he that has suffered in the flesh or was crucified in the flesh has put on the new man because the other one is dead. That new person "hath ceased from sin;..."

I'm going to read 1 Peter tonight and find those verses to add to my list when I talk to pastors, to prove to them they need to teach what you and I know, and that the Bible clearly teaches when read in context.

 

[Peterlag]

I have - three! I go to different churches now just to see with this new seer gift God gave me if their sermons are anointed or not. Last week I went to a Pentecostal church (one of my favorites as I also have all but two of the gifts of the Spirit and they show the largest anointings) and this substitute pastor had a smallest blue halo around his head that I've seen there, but as soon as he started speading up his talking and acting Pentecostal, the anointing ceased and didn't return until he stopped acting in the flesh. Interesting.

None of the churches I've visited believe we are dead to sin.

I don't see any blue lights and don't know anyone who has. Last time I mentioned this on another site the management deleted me from posting. The last time I went to a church to see what it would be like they walked me out the door.