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Thats why Jesus says all men in Jn 12:32 to squash that ethnic notion

I never heard of that interpretation and it makes five!

5 different interpretations of John 12:32 I have seen, incredible, and yours is also false, easily refuted by just reading the next verse.

John - 12:32 And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself.”
John - 12:33 He said this to show by what kind of death he was going to die.

Lifted up, meaning hanging 3-4 meters above the ground on a cross.

Nothing to do with crafting in the gentiles.

No universalism either.

Context -

John 12:12 The next day the large crowd that had come to the feast heard that Jesus was coming to Jerusalem.
John 12:13 So they took branches of palm trees and went out to meet him, crying out, “Hosanna! Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord, even the King of Israel!”
John 12:14 And Jesus found a young donkey and sat on it, just as it is written,
John 12:15 “Fear not, daughter of Zion; behold, your king is coming, sitting on a donkey's colt!”
John 12:16 His disciples did not understand these things at first, but when Jesus was glorified, then they remembered that these things had been written about him and had been done to him.
John 12:17 The crowd that had been with him when he called Lazarus out of the tomb and raised him from the dead continued to bear witness.
John 12:18 The reason why the crowd went to meet him was that they heard he had done this sign.
John 12:19 So the Pharisees said to one another, “You see that you are gaining nothing. Look, the world has gone after him.”

the world has gone after him. - is common hyperbole, Jerusalem is of course not the (whole) world.

And [IMO] so did Jesus in response to the Pharisees using hyperbole and sarcasm, saying, just wait you Pharisees, when I am hanging on the cross I will get even more attention.
 
@ProDeo

No its not refuted.

Again -

John - 12:32 And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself.”
John - 12:33 He said this to show by what kind of death he was going to die.

Lifted up, meaning hanging 3-4 meters above the ground on a cross.

v23 is about how Jesus is going to die, on a cross.

Nothing to do with crafting in the gentiles.

Now debate and refute it.

#466 Nothing you have eyes to see
#468 Again Nothing you have eyes to see
#470 Again Nothing you have eyes to see
#472 Nothing you have eyes to see
#474 Nothing you have eyes to see
#478 Its not rebuttal save in your mind.
#482 Its not rebuttal save in your mind. Its nothing but a rabbit trail
#483 No its not refuted.

Empty rhetoric like this is not debating, this is a forum, on a forum people debate.

 
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Again -

John - 12:32 And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself.”
John - 12:33 He said this to show by what kind of death he was going to die.

Lifted up, meaning hanging 3-4 meters above the ground on a cross.

v23 is about how Jesus is going to die, on a cross.

Nothing to do with crafting in the gentiles.

Now debate and refute it.



Empty rhetoric like this is not debating, this is a forum, on a forum people debate.

You dont know what you talking about friend, really wasting my time.
 
Its not rebuttal, its you just piling up a bunch of verses and dont know the first thing about them. People are foolish to chase down 20-30 verses for you.
I'm sorry sir, ma'am but you seem to have a problem balancing SCRIPTURE as God's TRUTH.
Also the spirit of your arguments are contrary to Christs 3 great commands of love to God first, then your neighbor then each other.

If any of the others followers of Calvin, behave this way it is VERY unlike God ,who is love !
 
I'm sorry sir, ma'am but you seem to have a problem balancing SCRIPTURE as God's TRUTH.
Also the spirit of your arguments are contrary to Christs 3 great commands of love to God first, then your neighbor then each other.

If any of the others followers of Calvin, behave this way it is VERY unlike God ,who is love !
Im a Sir first of all, this is about Sovereign irresistible Grace, not what God commands

 
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