Irresistible Grace

[TomL]

Believing is by the Grace of the Spirit and its effectual 1 Thess 2:13

For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.

um that states they received the word of God

after receiving that is believing in the word, it worked effectually in them so that


1 Thessalonians 2:14 (KJV 1900) — 14 For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews:

as typical, you have ignored the context and thus misunderstood the passage

 

[civic]

um that states they received the word of God

after receiving that is believing in the word, it worked effectually in them so that


1 Thessalonians 2:14 (KJV 1900) — 14 For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews:

as typical, you have ignored the context and thus misunderstood the passage

ditto

 

[brightfame52]

You addressed no rebuttal

https://berean-apologetics.community.forum/threads/irresistible-grace.340/post-93014

and your verse does not state God works effectual for you to believe

Note they received the word of God believing.

Believing is by the Grace of the Spirit and its effectual 1 Thess 2:13

For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.

 

[brightfame52]

in you who believe- believers the same with predestination- believers, not unbelievers.

Paul uses predestination in Romans 8:29-30 and Ephesians 1:5;11 to those who are already saved. Paul does not use the word for unbelievers who are predestined before the world ( false teaching of augustine, calvin ).

What Paul says we believers are predestined to is adoption, to be conformed to the image of Christ, those predestined to be conformed are those who He called, justified and glorified. Notice its believers, not unbelievers who are predestined. There is nothing about unbelievers being predestined before the world. Those who believe in Christ are those who are predestined to be conformed to Christ and adoption as sons.

No one is ever predestined to believe in Christ. Those who are already in Christ are the ones predestined to be conformed into His image and adoption as sons. The bible never says anyone that is not saved were predestined before they were saved. No one is predestined to be saved.

hope this helps !!!

Believing is by the Grace of the Spirit and its effectual 1 Thess 2:13

For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.

Why did the Apostle Thank God without ceasing in this scripture ?

 

[brightfame52]

um that states they received the word of God

after receiving that is believing in the word, it worked effectually in them so that


1 Thessalonians 2:14 (KJV 1900) — 14 For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews:

as typical, you have ignored the context and thus misunderstood the passage

Believing is by the Grace of the Spirit and its effectual 1 Thess 2:13

For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.

Why did Paul Thank God without ceasing in this scripture ?

 

[TomL]

Believing is by the Grace of the Spirit and its effectual 1 Thess 2:13

For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.

Why did Paul Thank God without ceasing in this scripture ?

For god's word which works in those who believe and trust it

 

[brightfame52]

For god's word which works in those who believe and trust it

Believing is by the Grace of the Spirit and its effectual 1 Thess 2:13

For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.

Why did Paul Thank God without ceasing in this scripture ?

 

[TomL]

Believing is by the Grace of the Spirit and its effectual 1 Thess 2:13

For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.

Why did Paul Thank God without ceasing in this scripture ?

Were you not able to read?

For god's word which works in those who believe and trust it

 

[brightfame52]

Were you not able to read?

For god's word which works in those who believe and trust it

God was Thanked because He caused it. Duh

 

[TomL]

God was Thanked because He caused it. Duh

So you assume.

Nowhere in scripture however is God shown to irresistibly infuse faith in man

 

[brightfame52]

So you assume.

Nowhere in scripture however is God shown to irresistibly infuse faith in man

God was Thanked because He caused it. Duh

 

[TomL]

God was Thanked because He caused it. Duh

So you assume.

Nowhere in scripture however is God shown to irresistibly infuse faith in man

 

[brightfame52]

So you assume.

Nowhere in scripture however is God shown to irresistibly infuse faith in man

God was Thanked because He caused it. Duh Just like here, God is thanked for causing Gospel obedience Rom 6:17

17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
Otherwise they would have remained servants of sin, unbelievers.

God causes obedience its a Covenant Blessing Ezk 36:27

27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

That causing is effectual Grace !

 

[TomL]

God was Thanked because He caused it. Duh Just like here, God is thanked for causing Gospel obedience Rom 6:17

17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
Otherwise they would have remained servants of sin, unbelievers.

God causes obedience its a Covenant Blessing Ezk 36:27

27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

That causing is effectual Grace !

sorry you continue to beg the question

God was thanked for his word which works effectually for those who believe it.

And Ezekiel 36 is addressed to Israel

If you have it causing faith, then all of Israel would have believed.

But they did not and so your interpretation is clearly faulty.

 

[brightfame52]

sorry you continue to beg the question

God was thanked for his word which works effectually for those who believe it.

And Ezekiel 36 is addressed to Israel

If you have it causing faith, then all of Israel would have believed.

But they did not and so your interpretation is clearly faulty.

God was Thanked because He caused it. Duh Just like here, God is thanked for causing Gospel obedience Rom 6:17

17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
Otherwise they would have remained servants of sin, unbelievers.

God causes obedience its a Covenant Blessing Ezk 36:27

27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

That causing is effectual Grace !

 

[TomL]

God was Thanked because He caused it. Duh Just like here, God is thanked for causing Gospel obedience Rom 6:17

17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
Otherwise they would have remained servants of sin, unbelievers.

God causes obedience its a Covenant Blessing Ezk 36:27

27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

That causing is effectual Grace !

This still holds true

sorry you continue to beg the question

God was thanked for his word which works effectually for those who believe it.

And Ezekiel 36 is addressed to Israel

If you have it causing faith, then all of Israel would have believed.

But they did not and so your interpretation is clearly faulty.

You fail to address this.

 

[brightfame52]

This still holds true

sorry you continue to beg the question

God was thanked for his word which works effectually for those who believe it.

And Ezekiel 36 is addressed to Israel

If you have it causing faith, then all of Israel would have believed.

But they did not and so your interpretation is clearly faulty.

You fail to address this.

God was Thanked because He caused it. Duh Just like here, God is thanked for causing Gospel obedience Rom 6:17

17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
Otherwise they would have remained servants of sin, unbelievers.

God causes obedience its a Covenant Blessing Ezk 36:27

27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

That causing is effectual Grace !

With your reasoning, the sinner should be Thanked that he obeyed the Gospel lol

 

[TomL]

God was Thanked because He caused it. Duh Just like here, God is thanked for causing Gospel obedience Rom 6:17

17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
Otherwise they would have remained servants of sin, unbelievers.

God causes obedience its a Covenant Blessing Ezk 36:27

27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

That causing is effectual Grace !

With your reasoning, the sinner should be Thanked that he obeyed the Gospel lol

Again you merely assume your view

This still holds true

sorry you continue to beg the question

God was thanked for his word which works effectually for those who believe it.

And Ezekiel 36 is addressed to Israel

If you have it causing faith, then all of Israel would have believed.

But they did not and so your interpretation is clearly faulty.

You fail to address this.

 

[brightfame52]

Again you merely assume your view

This still holds true

sorry you continue to beg the question

God was thanked for his word which works effectually for those who believe it.

And Ezekiel 36 is addressed to Israel

If you have it causing faith, then all of Israel would have believed.

But they did not and so your interpretation is clearly faulty.

You fail to address this.

God was Thanked because He caused it. Duh Just like here, God is thanked for causing Gospel obedience Rom 6:17

17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.

Otherwise they would have remained servants of sin, unbelievers.

God causes obedience its a Covenant Blessing Ezk 36:27

27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

That causing is effectual Grace !

With your reasoning, the sinner should be Thanked that he obeyed the Gospel lol God is Thanked because God did the work

 

[TomL]

God was Thanked because He caused it. Duh Just like here, God is thanked for causing Gospel obedience Rom 6:17

17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.

Otherwise they would have remained servants of sin, unbelievers.

God causes obedience its a Covenant Blessing Ezk 36:27

27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

That causing is effectual Grace !

With your reasoning, the sinner should be Thanked that he obeyed the Gospel lol God is Thanked because God did the work

Again you merely assume your view

This still holds true

sorry you continue to beg the question

God was thanked for his word which works effectually for those who believe it.

And Ezekiel 36 is addressed to Israel

If you have it causing faith, then all of Israel would have believed.

But they did not and so your interpretation is clearly faulty.

You fail to address this.