You want to reject what the Bible declares then go right ahead with your rebellion.
Inclusion of LGBT Christians
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You want to reject what the Bible declares then go right ahead with your rebellion.
Frank Russell
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The sermon on the mount ends with Jesus stating follow these teachings and build your house on a rock, and do not follow these teachings - then you build on a foundation of sand.
Your theology which rips this foundation out of your bible is just as you say.
"You want to reject what the Bible declares then go right ahead with your rebellion."
This ignores His other teachings which do not contradict anything in the Sermon on the Mount.
Frank Russell
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Since it's a foundation, the way it applies must reflect said foundational teaching.
You can build the walls of homosexuality is a sin, you can build the roof of Jesus is Lord. However, there is no foundation - it's really sad.
All of what Christ said is foundational.
As with all other sins.
Nice try.
Frank Russell
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Only God can convince people of whatever He thinks necessary.
I suppose mercy is simply not necessary for you.
Maybe later.
And the Bible does just that by making clear homosexuality is a sin.
Like all sins it needs to be repented of and not celebrated.
God is merciful and one needs to repent (Nehemiah 9:17).
Frank Russell
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I will boast of my weaknesses so Christ's power will rest on me. (2 Corinthians 12:9)
I think those who boast of their sins become better at confessing them in length.
No, that would be glorying in their shame.
Frank Russell
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The sooner the sin develops to a place where it can be seen as sin, no one repents. This is why lust type sins are so deceitful.
So it would be best to warn people about the sin of homosexuality and not tell them it is okay.
Frank Russell
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It would also be best to warn Christians that the way they judge others, they will be judged the same way.
People who go out of their way to tell people that they have X Sin tend to have the sin of pride in their heart.
It's all terribly hypocritical.
Obey John 7:24.
Especially if those engaging in a particular sin say it is not a sin.
It would be wrong not to tell the person.
Frank Russell
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I recall a story in the bible that reflects your sentiments.
This man, who was called as a prophet was told to tell everyone their sins if he saw them.
Firstly, he was only told to tell them once.
Second, after being told to tell the rebellious nation about their sins - he was told to hide himself.
DavidTree
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Along with your evidentiary and in agreement with it is the fact that the Apostles also confirmed Male/Female-Husband/Wife as authored and approved by God.There's a serious effort that supports LGBTQ inclusion in the Church All the way from pastors and leadership on down. To me it's just another effort of Satan to infiltrate the church. Here's one of the claims being made.
At the heart of the claim that the Bible is clear "that homosexuality is forbidden by God" is poor biblical scholarship and a cultural bias read into the Bible.
I definitely don't believe that. Some claim Jesus never said anything about homosexuality and therefore is neutral on the topic. Not true. Jesus was unequivocal in saying that to understand marriage and the sexual union, we must go back to the beginning and see how God created humanity and to what end.
Matthew 19 Link
Mark 10 Link
Jesus holds up the creation story in Genesis not as a quaint Sunday school lesson, but as authoritative — reminding us that God created each of us male and female, each for the other. And the sexual union that God created and ordains is for husband and wife to come together in physical union, one flesh.
An Assessment of Andy Stanley’s Unconditional Conference
Alan Shlemon explains three serious concerns about the Unconditional Conference hosted by Andy Stanley, gives reasons why we can’t simply agree to disagree on LGBTQ issues, and describes how Christian parents can continue to faithfully walk with Jesus when a child identifies as LGBTQ.www.str.org
In direct contrast to God Ordained union between male/female is the condemnation to those who participate in sexual union apart from Male/Female Holy Matrimony.
Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.
Now for the GOOD NEWS
And such were some of you.
But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.
civic
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1 Corinthians 6
I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people— 10 not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. 11 But now I am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister[c] but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler. Do not even eat with such people.
12 What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? 13 God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked person from among you.
hope this helps !!!
I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people— 10 not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. 11 But now I am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister[c] but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler. Do not even eat with such people.
12 What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? 13 God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked person from among you.
hope this helps !!!
civic
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God allows in the law the certificate of divorce- sexual sin of every kind is condemned in that same law.
civic
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Romans 1
Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. 32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.
Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. 32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.
Frank Russell
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Since God is not incarnated on Earth in this day and age, what matters is how we who are here apply the information.
If it does not conform to the root commandment, or to the summary of any and all commandments, it is just a rule made up by people.
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