In Calvinism... where is the love?

Theophilus

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Unfortunately, Calvinists sometimes seem to have a blind spot for the love of God. Consider this question from The Shorter Catechism, which is an abbreviated version of The Westminster Confession of Faith, a classic Calvinist statement of faith. The Catechism asks this most fundamental theological question: “What is God?”

Here is the answer that is given: “God is a Spirit, infinite, eternal, and unchangeable, in his being, wisdom, power, holiness, justice, goodness, and truth.”

Do you notice anything missing from this definition? Where is the love? The definition mentions God’s power, his wisdom, and his justice, along with other attributes, but amazingly enough it leaves out perhaps the most beautiful definition of God in the entire Bible: “God is love”. 1 John 4:8,16


Calvinist theologian Arthur W. Pink: “When we say that God is sovereign in the exercise of His love, we mean that He loves whom he chooses. God does not love everybody . . . .”

How does that work? The bad news is not really well. Is it not the very heart of the gospel that God loves everyone? Is that not the good news that we joyfully share with all persons? “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whosoever believes in him shall not perish, but have eternal life”. John 3:16


In the Institutes of the Christian Religion by John Calvin there is not one time in this book does Calvin ever quote “God is love.” Hard to believe that in is massive book that is 1,521 pages long and that discusses thousands of biblical texts and discusses God’s nature extensively, Calvin never one time cited 1 John 4:8 or 1 John 4:16. Not even once! This is a stunning omission.

I'm still looking for the love in Calvinism.
 
love under that theology is double speak and contradicts scripture. since we know God is love and Jesus is God He tells us and shows us what His universal love looks like and acts like as God Incarnate. He loves those who hated Him without a cause, He died for them, He prayed for them, He said we are to love our enemies because He loved and died for His enemies. Love not hate is the hallmark of a Christian. Its the opposite in calvins theology- he persecuted and killed his enemies. Calvin demonstrated hate not love. And man will act out their idea's about God in their life. Think of the militant Islamists. Their god is a vengeful and hateful god of all those who are not muslims. Ones view of God comes out in how they live and treat others who are different from them.
 
love under that theology is double speak and contradicts scripture. since we know God is love and Jesus is God He tells us and shows us what His universal love looks like and acts like as God Incarnate. He loves those who hated Him without a cause, He died for them, He prayed for them, He said we are to love our enemies because He loved and died for His enemies. Love not hate is the hallmark of a Christian. Its the opposite in calvins theology- he persecuted and killed his enemies. Calvin demonstrated hate not love. And man will act out their idea's about God in their life. Think of the militant Islamists. Their god is a vengeful and hateful god of all those who are not muslims. Ones view of God comes out in how they live and treat others who are different from them.
"God is love" does not say "God is universal love". Further, if his love is universal, it still does not mean that it is equal across the board in its intent and effects, and not particular.

Further, none of God's attributes, including his love, are without all his other attributes, and like love, they in their infinite intensity —justice, purity, wisdom, glory and so on.
 
"God is love" does not say "God is universal love". Further, if his love is universal, it still does not mean that it is equal across the board in its intent and effects, and not particular.

Further, none of God's attributes, including his love, are without all his other attributes, and like love, they in their infinite intensity —justice, purity, wisdom, glory and so on.
All doctrine begins with God at its starting point. God’s innate attributes are Aseity (God is self-sufficient), Infinite (without limit), Eternal (God has no beginning or end, he is timeless), Immutable (God is unchanging), Love (God is love), Holy (God is set-apart), Perichoresis (the indwelling of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit). Divine Simplicity states God is Love because He is Love, not because He possesses that quality. God is the center of all the Divine Attributes. They point to His Being. God is not distinct from His nature.

God is Love. In love, the Father sent the Son on our behalf to be the perfect sacrifice for sin. We Love because He first loved us and sent His Son as 1 John 4:19 tells us.

We must understand how God's attributes all work in harmony together, not in opposition to each other. God's attributes and character flow from His love—for God is love.

God being love has nothing to do with His creation. That is secondary. God is love, and that love is perfect, lacking nothing within His Triune nature as God. Love, by definition, has to be expressed with another, which is why a unitarian god cannot be love. Love requires another to share and express that love, and it is what we see with the Triune God. God is love before anyone/anything existed. Before creation, there was no sin. There was no judgment, wrath, mercy, grace, and justice. Why? Because those are God's secondary attributes concerning the creation and the fall. God's love is a primary attribute, like Holy is a primary one. Everything about God flows from His being Love which includes His secondary attributes, which were not in use until the creation and the fall.

Let’s examine how this works in conjunction with Gods sovereignty and His love. God is sovereign and also love. Both sovereignty and love as they intersect with God have been revealed plainly to us by God in His word. He has done this both through his word and his works. And God has sworn never to change for He is Immutable.

God's sovereignty is never exercised in violation of his love. His love is very everlasting, for God is love. The love of God has not the slightest shadow of variation, and it, not his sovereignty, is the basis upon which his moral standards rest. Any promotion of any doctrine that represents God as acting in a way that violates his love appealing to the fact that He is sovereign is found nowhere in the pages of scripture.

The fact that God can do something is not a justification for Him doing it. The fact that God can damn everyone without a reason is not an argument for justifying teaching that he does as in the Calvinist doctrine of double predestination. All that He can do is restricted by the standard that God values most which is His love. If it will violate love, God will not and cannot do it for that would be contrary to His nature and character as a loving God. And if it will violate love then it is not right. God cannot make it right by doing it just because He is sovereign. If God does it just because He is sovereign then He would not be God but something else.

What makes God, God is so intricately bound to his intent for doing things that if He were to do a thing just by virtue of the fact that He is sovereign and can do it rather than by virtue of the fact that it is loving? He would not be God as we know Him but something else. If sovereignty is what defines what makes up love in such a way that God doing anything is what defines love, then love has no meaning and can be anything and everything it is and opposes any time, which is ridiculous.

This below is from the Calvinist Theologian Abraham Kuyper on God is love:


“Before God created heaven and earth with all their inhabitants, the eternal Love of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit shone with unseen splendor in the divine Being. Love exists, not for the sake of the world, but for God's sake; and when the world came into existence, Love remained unchanged; and if every creature were to disappear, it would remain just as rich and glorious as ever. Love exists and works in the Eternal Being apart from the creature; and its radiation upon the, creature is but a feeble reflection of its being.

Love is not God, but God is Love; and He is sufficient to Himself to love absolutely and forever. He has no need of the creature, and the exercise of His Love did not begin with the creature whom He could love, but it flows and springs eternally in the Love-life of the Triune God. God is Love; its perfection, divine beauty, real dimensions, and holiness are not found in men, not even in the best of God's children, but scintillate only around the Throne of God.

The unity of Love with the Confession of the Trinity is the starting-point from which we proceed to base Love independently in God, absolutely independent of the creature or anything creaturely. This is not to make the divine Trinity a philosophic deduction from essential love. That is unlawful; if God had not revealed this mystery in His Word we should be totally ignorant of it. But since the Scripture puts the Triune Being before us as the Object of our adoration, and upon almost every page most highly exalts the mutual Love of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, and delineates it as an Eternal Love, we know and plainly see that this holy Love may never be represented but as springing from the mutual love of the divine Persons.

Hence through the mystery of the Trinity, the Love which is in God and is God obtains its independent existence, apart from the creature, independent of the emotions of mind and heart; and it rises as a sun, with its own fire and rays, outside of man, in God, in whom it rests and from whom it radiates.

In this way we eradicate every comparison of the Love of God with our love. In this way the false mingling ceases. In principle we resist the reversing of positions whereby arrogant man had succeeded in copying from himself a so-called God of Love, and into silencing all adoration. In this way the soul returns to the blessed confession that God is Love, and the way of divine mercy and pity is opened whereby the brightness of that Sun can radiate in a human way, i.e., in a finite and imperfect manner to and in the human heart, to the praise of God. “From his book on the Work of the Holy Spirit Volume 3, Second Chapter Love- xviii Love in the Triune Being of God “

God can do anything and everything is what sovereignty means by definition. God will only do what is loving and what is righteousness. Righteousness is the foundation of his throne. In other words, righteousness is the constraint of his sovereign rule. Love is how God rules His creation. Sovereignty, Righteousness, Justice, Mercy and all the other attributes of God fall under the umbrella of His love. God being love is foundational to Gods nature, character, the gospel and the entire purpose for Christs 1st Coming. John 3:16. God rules by His love. The question we need to be asking ourselves is this, how does our Sovereign God display His love in conjunction with His rule over mankind?

hope this helps !!!
 
Divine Simplicity states God is Love because He is Love, not because He possesses that quality. God is the center of all the Divine Attributes. They point to His Being. God is not distinct from His nature.
Well, no, Divine Simplicity does not state God is Love because He is Love; the statement is, however, consistent with Divine Simplicity.

Bear in mind that 'God's attributes' are one fact in Divine Simplicity, and furthermore, they are, of necessity, man's way accommodating man's way of thought, compartmentalizing. We can't help it —it is how we think. God is Love does not mean that Love is his most prevalent or most important attribute. It would be more accurate to say that all his other attributes are enveloped in that one, but that still admits to compartmentalizing, and it would also then require that love is enveloped by each one of his other attributes.

God’s innate attributes are Aseity (God is self-sufficient), Infinite (without limit), Eternal (God has no beginning or end, he is timeless), Immutable (God is unchanging), Love (God is love), Holy (God is set-apart), Perichoresis (the indwelling of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit)
Your list of God's 'innate attributes' —(are there any attributes of God that are not innate?)— I have seen you state before, as if that is all there are. If the rest of his attributes are redundant upon these, say, the attribute of Purity (which you did not list) is only 'part of' Holiness (which you did list), then they are all redundant, since each involves the others. Even within your list, 'Eternal' falls within the reach of 'Infinite'. I'm not trying to be picky, here; I'm asking why these, and not the others. Would it not be more useful and less misleading to say, "God's attributes, among which are Aseity,..."?

All doctrine begins with God at its starting point. God’s innate attributes are Aseity (God is self-sufficient), Infinite (without limit), Eternal (God has no beginning or end, he is timeless), Immutable (God is unchanging), Love (God is love), Holy (God is set-apart), Perichoresis (the indwelling of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit). Divine Simplicity states God is Love because He is Love, not because He possesses that quality. God is the center of all the Divine Attributes. They point to His Being. God is not distinct from His nature.

God is Love. In love, the Father sent the Son on our behalf to be the perfect sacrifice for sin. We Love because He first loved us and sent His Son as 1 John 4:19 tells us.

We must understand how God's attributes all work in harmony together, not in opposition to each other. God's attributes and character flow from His love—for God is love.

God being love has nothing to do with His creation. That is secondary. God is love, and that love is perfect, lacking nothing within His Triune nature as God. Love, by definition, has to be expressed with another, which is why a unitarian god cannot be love. Love requires another to share and express that love, and it is what we see with the Triune God. God is love before anyone/anything existed. Before creation, there was no sin. There was no judgment, wrath, mercy, grace, and justice. Why? Because those are God's secondary attributes concerning the creation and the fall. God's love is a primary attribute, like Holy is a primary one. Everything about God flows from His being Love which includes His secondary attributes, which were not in use until the creation and the fall.

Let’s examine how this works in conjunction with Gods sovereignty and His love. God is sovereign and also love. Both sovereignty and love as they intersect with God have been revealed plainly to us by God in His word. He has done this both through his word and his works. And God has sworn never to change for He is Immutable.

God's sovereignty is never exercised in violation of his love. His love is very everlasting, for God is love. The love of God has not the slightest shadow of variation, and it, not his sovereignty, is the basis upon which his moral standards rest. Any promotion of any doctrine that represents God as acting in a way that violates his love appealing to the fact that He is sovereign is found nowhere in the pages of scripture.

The fact that God can do something is not a justification for Him doing it. The fact that God can damn everyone without a reason is not an argument for justifying teaching that he does as in the Calvinist doctrine of double predestination. All that He can do is restricted by the standard that God values most which is His love. If it will violate love, God will not and cannot do it for that would be contrary to His nature and character as a loving God. And if it will violate love then it is not right. God cannot make it right by doing it just because He is sovereign. If God does it just because He is sovereign then He would not be God but something else.

What makes God, God is so intricately bound to his intent for doing things that if He were to do a thing just by virtue of the fact that He is sovereign and can do it rather than by virtue of the fact that it is loving? He would not be God as we know Him but something else. If sovereignty is what defines what makes up love in such a way that God doing anything is what defines love, then love has no meaning and can be anything and everything it is and opposes any time, which is ridiculous.

This below is from the Calvinist Theologian Abraham Kuyper on God is love:


“Before God created heaven and earth with all their inhabitants, the eternal Love of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit shone with unseen splendor in the divine Being. Love exists, not for the sake of the world, but for God's sake; and when the world came into existence, Love remained unchanged; and if every creature were to disappear, it would remain just as rich and glorious as ever. Love exists and works in the Eternal Being apart from the creature; and its radiation upon the, creature is but a feeble reflection of its being.

Love is not God, but God is Love; and He is sufficient to Himself to love absolutely and forever. He has no need of the creature, and the exercise of His Love did not begin with the creature whom He could love, but it flows and springs eternally in the Love-life of the Triune God. God is Love; its perfection, divine beauty, real dimensions, and holiness are not found in men, not even in the best of God's children, but scintillate only around the Throne of God.

The unity of Love with the Confession of the Trinity is the starting-point from which we proceed to base Love independently in God, absolutely independent of the creature or anything creaturely. This is not to make the divine Trinity a philosophic deduction from essential love. That is unlawful; if God had not revealed this mystery in His Word we should be totally ignorant of it. But since the Scripture puts the Triune Being before us as the Object of our adoration, and upon almost every page most highly exalts the mutual Love of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, and delineates it as an Eternal Love, we know and plainly see that this holy Love may never be represented but as springing from the mutual love of the divine Persons.

Hence through the mystery of the Trinity, the Love which is in God and is God obtains its independent existence, apart from the creature, independent of the emotions of mind and heart; and it rises as a sun, with its own fire and rays, outside of man, in God, in whom it rests and from whom it radiates.

In this way we eradicate every comparison of the Love of God with our love. In this way the false mingling ceases. In principle we resist the reversing of positions whereby arrogant man had succeeded in copying from himself a so-called God of Love, and into silencing all adoration. In this way the soul returns to the blessed confession that God is Love, and the way of divine mercy and pity is opened whereby the brightness of that Sun can radiate in a human way, i.e., in a finite and imperfect manner to and in the human heart, to the praise of God. “From his book on the Work of the Holy Spirit Volume 3, Second Chapter Love- xviii Love in the Triune Being of God “

God can do anything and everything is what sovereignty means by definition. God will only do what is loving and what is righteousness. Righteousness is the foundation of his throne. In other words, righteousness is the constraint of his sovereign rule. Love is how God rules His creation. Sovereignty, Righteousness, Justice, Mercy and all the other attributes of God fall under the umbrella of His love. God being love is foundational to Gods nature, character, the gospel and the entire purpose for Christs 1st Coming. John 3:16. God rules by His love. The question we need to be asking ourselves is this, how does our Sovereign God display His love in conjunction with His rule over mankind?

hope this helps !!!
Good post. I particularly like the way that Kuyper describes God's love as not so much a force directed AT us, but almost as if we are coincidentally affected by the radiation proceeding from God's eternal love within himself. He doesn't say it quite that way, but he does get across the important point that 'God is Love' is pervasive, not because of anything within creation, but simply, because God is Love in and of himself.

I also love your follow-up, last paragraph —(I assume that was you —well written, btw, (discounting the grammatical errors, lol)). But you don't answer your own question: "...how does our Sovereign God display His love in conjunction with His rule over mankind?" Do you only mean to pique one's thinking? Or are you trying to imply something?

I'm left wondering just what your point was in posting this. —Are you arguing that Calvinism neglects that God's love is pervasive? Calvinism assumes that very thing, and includes all doctrines within God's love! God's very creating, nevermind all the particulars in which God deals with his creation and his creatures, in light of his sovereignty and aseity (he did not need us), imply his love for us, and, more importantly, his love within himself. Or, —Are you maybe arguing that Calvinism denies God's pervasive love?
 
I don't think you are. You don't even try. You pick and choose where to "look" for it. You are, in effect —at least in your OP— declaring that there is no love in Calvinism.
You're right I gave up looking for the love in Calvinism. I did try until I realized it was a wasted effort. But you've encouraged me to take another look. Maybe I was looking for love in all the wrong places.
 
Well, no, Divine Simplicity does not state God is Love because He is Love; the statement is, however, consistent with Divine Simplicity.

Bear in mind that 'God's attributes' are one fact in Divine Simplicity, and furthermore, they are, of necessity, man's way accommodating man's way of thought, compartmentalizing. We can't help it —it is how we think. God is Love does not mean that Love is his most prevalent or most important attribute. It would be more accurate to say that all his other attributes are enveloped in that one, but that still admits to compartmentalizing, and it would also then require that love is enveloped by each one of his other attributes.


Your list of God's 'innate attributes' —(are there any attributes of God that are not innate?)— I have seen you state before, as if that is all there are. If the rest of his attributes are redundant upon these, say, the attribute of Purity (which you did not list) is only 'part of' Holiness (which you did list), then they are all redundant, since each involves the others. Even within your list, 'Eternal' falls within the reach of 'Infinite'. I'm not trying to be picky, here; I'm asking why these, and not the others. Would it not be more useful and less misleading to say, "God's attributes, among which are Aseity,..."?


Good post. I particularly like the way that Kuyper describes God's love as not so much a force directed AT us, but almost as if we are coincidentally affected by the radiation proceeding from God's eternal love within himself. He doesn't say it quite that way, but he does get across the important point that 'God is Love' is pervasive, not because of anything within creation, but simply, because God is Love in and of himself.

I also love your follow-up, last paragraph —(I assume that was you —well written, btw, (discounting the grammatical errors, lol)). But you don't answer your own question: "...how does our Sovereign God display His love in conjunction with His rule over mankind?" Do you only mean to pique one's thinking? Or are you trying to imply something?

I'm left wondering just what your point was in posting this. —Are you arguing that Calvinism neglects that God's love is pervasive? Calvinism assumes that very thing, and includes all doctrines within God's love! God's very creating, nevermind all the particulars in which God deals with his creation and his creatures, in light of his sovereignty and aseity (he did not need us), imply his love for us, and, more importantly, his love within himself. Or, —Are you maybe arguing that Calvinism denies God's pervasive love?
Thanks for responding and the ending question/paragraph was "food for thought". I personally believe that election/predestination/ double predestination according to the reformed POV is actually unloving, unbenevolent, unkind and goes against Gods good character. Damning the majority to hell without ever having a real chance or opportunity to escape and this was done before creation and determined by God to occur is an assault on His character IMHO.
 
In my renewed effort to look for the love in Calvinism I stumbled upon the man-made Doctrine of limited atonement. I say man-made because it wasn't introduced to the church until 850 AD. Apparently John the Apostle of love was not an adherent of limited atonement since it wasn't around in his day. That is a pretty staggering historical fact that should not be brushed aside without due consideration. One of the main reasons is because it involves the question "who did Christ die for"? Now the Calvinist would tell you that Christ died only for the elect. My answer is:
Christ died for all people equally to make salvation possible for all people, as he equally desires all to be saved, as well as secure the salvation of those who do believe.

God truly loves all people and desires their salvation, and Christ died for all people, so that anyone can be saved by trusting in the person and work of Jesus Christ. However, just because Jesus has provided salvation for all of mankind does not mean that everyone will be saved. The atonement does not benefit anyone who continues to reject it. The reason why everyone will not be saved is not because God does not want everyone to be saved or because Christ did not die for everyone, but because many will refuse to accept the gift of salvation provided for them.

One of the clearest texts that demonstrates the universality of the extent of Christ’s atonement can be found in 1 John 2:2. John the Apostle of love writes, “He is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.”

In order to guard their fallacious doctrine of limited atonement, Calvinists engage in radical reinterpretations of the clear meaning of the Bible. Their interpretation minimizes the love of God.

The clear truth found in scripture is that Christ did in fact die for everyone. Jesus Christ died for “the whole world” (1 John 2:2); he gave himself for “all” (1 Timothy 2:6); and he “tasted death for every man” (Hebrews 2:9). For anyone to deny that the extent of the atonement is universal, he needs to ask himself why God chose to inspire the Scriptures to show that Christ died for the Lost.

God's love can't be found in limited atonement.
 
God determined of His own will to provide salvation. He devised the plan and set the rules to satisfy His love and justice. It is folly for anyone to imagine that man can set the requirements for salvation and impose them upon God. It is no less obvious that God, because He is God, has the prerogative of offering salvation to whomever He will.

Calvinists falsely claim that Calvinists deny such “freedom” to God. God declared, “I will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will shew mercy on whom I will shew mercy” Exodus 33:19

He does not say, however, that He will be gracious and merciful to some and not to others—but that grace and mercy are by His initiative. He is under no obligation to be gracious and merciful to anyone.

Only by God’s grace and mercy can anyone be saved: “By grace are ye saved.…According to his mercy he saved us” Ephesians 2:8; Titus 3:5

Since salvation is by grace, it cannot be earned, merited, or demanded on any basis whatsoever. Grace and mercy can be given to whomever God should decide. However, far from indicating that His grace is limited because He has decided to save only a select group, the Bible clearly states that “God so loved the world” that He gave His Son to die “that the world through him might be saved” John 3:16–17

Christ the Lamb of God came to take “away the sin of the world” John 1:29

And He became the propitiation “for the sins of the whole world” 1 John 2:2

God repeatedly declares that He is gracious and merciful to all. And so it is with God’s love, from which His grace and mercy flow—without partiality it reaches out to all mankind.
 
29- For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers and sisters.

hope this helps !!!

Context always does :)
 
Paul mentions believing or faith four times in these two verses: “to everyone who believes”; “from faith to faith”; and, “the righteous man shall live by faith.” If salvation comes through faith plus good works (as the Roman Catholic Church teaches and all of the cults teach), then it is not good news, because you could never know whether you have piled up enough good works to qualify. But if God declares guilty sinners to be righteous or justified the instant they believe, that is good news!
 
28 And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose.
Yes... first we hear the gospel and choose to believe in Jesus then we understand how much God loves us and how much we love him and that he has a purpose for our life... to share his love. Calvinist's have a hard time with that because they only share his love with the elect and how can you tell who's the elect and who's not the elect? So the question is not only where is the love and Calvinism but where is the elect to share it with?
 
Yes... first we hear the gospel and choose to believe in Jesus then we understand how much God loves us and how much we love him and that he has a purpose for our life... to share his love. Calvinist's have a hard time with that because they only share his love with the elect and how can you tell who's the elect and who's not the elect? So the question is not only where is the love and Calvinism but where is the elect to share it with?
I agree, under the Calvinist system, which entails the unbiblical principle that God secretly made arbitrary choices before the foundation of the world, unilaterally fixing the eternal destiny of every individual leaves very little room for love. It also makes the gospel ineffective as it will only have any effect on the Elect.
 
Here's something to think about.

God chose the nation of Israel to be the people through whom all the families of the earth would be blessed. He did not choose Israel to the neglect of all the other nations in the world; on the contrary, he did so to bless (or bring the means of redemption) to them all. This text suggests that no aspect of divine election should ever be thought of as pitting those chosen against everyone else, as if God arbitrarily shows favoritism.

But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. 2nd Peter 8:9

God provides the means of salvation for all because he is good. It's our responsibility to respond to his goodness. Good people are typically recognized as being good because of their willingness to impartially provide good things to others. They are not doing this because it is required by law, but simply on the basis of their good and benevolent character. God is also recognizably good in this same way. He provides good things to others indiscriminately, not because He has to, but simply on the basis of His good character. This goodness is also seen in the fact that He does not show favoritism to one person over another for no apparent reason.

Calvinist's Would have us to believe that God shows favoritism and partiality. Partiality is an unfair bias in favor of one thing or person compared with another. Favoritism is the practice of giving unfair preferential treatment to one person or group at the expense of another.

God’s choice of Israel and certain Israelites to carry His message and to receive the blessings He gives to those who accomplish His assigned tasks is not partiality or favoritism. It is simply God’s chosen means to bless all the families of the earth (Gen. 12:3). They prepared the way for Jesus.

John 14:6
“Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”

Salvation is not based upon being one of the elect but by grace and coming to Jesus in faith.
 
Yes... first we hear the gospel and choose to believe in Jesus then we understand how much God loves us and how much we love him and that he has a purpose for our life... to share his love. Calvinist's have a hard time with that because they only share his love with the elect and how can you tell who's the elect and who's not the elect? So the question is not only where is the love and Calvinism but where is the elect to share it with?
Not to agree with your sequence there, but even if it is so, how does not knowing who is and who is not elect present a problem for Calvinism? Are we not to share the Gospel with everyone? Have you not noticed that God's word never returns void, but accomplishes everything for which it is sent? Have you not seen how God uses the truth to harden and blind, as well as to open eyes and soften?
 
Unfortunately, Calvinists sometimes seem to have a blind spot for the love of God. Consider this question from The Shorter Catechism, which is an abbreviated version of The Westminster Confession of Faith, a classic Calvinist statement of faith. The Catechism asks this most fundamental theological question: “What is God?”

Here is the answer that is given: “God is a Spirit, infinite, eternal, and unchangeable, in his being, wisdom, power, holiness, justice, goodness, and truth.”

Do you notice anything missing from this definition? Where is the love? The definition mentions God’s power, his wisdom, and his justice, along with other attributes, but amazingly enough it leaves out perhaps the most beautiful definition of God in the entire Bible: “God is love”. 1 John 4:8,16


Calvinist theologian Arthur W. Pink: “When we say that God is sovereign in the exercise of His love, we mean that He loves whom he chooses. God does not love everybody . . . .”

How does that work? The bad news is not really well. Is it not the very heart of the gospel that God loves everyone? Is that not the good news that we joyfully share with all persons? “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whosoever believes in him shall not perish, but have eternal life”. John 3:16


In the Institutes of the Christian Religion by John Calvin there is not one time in this book does Calvin ever quote “God is love.” Hard to believe that in is massive book that is 1,521 pages long and that discusses thousands of biblical texts and discusses God’s nature extensively, Calvin never one time cited 1 John 4:8 or 1 John 4:16. Not even once! This is a stunning omission.

I'm still looking for the love in Calvinism.
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you would have us believe God is hate, not love. Just the opposite of what Jesus and the Apostles taught.
 
Slander and misrepresentation
you teach God has hated most every person He created damning them before they were created for damnation. God made them as reprobates/apostates for His glory. thats your false doctrine not mine.

so yes you not me are the one who is slandering God and misrepresenting the truth from Scripture and assaulting Christ.

hope this helps !!!
 
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