Heaven is a real place

[praise_yeshua]

All I know about Heaven is what is written in Scripture.

Okay. I'll take that. The Scriptures don't teach that we will forget everything associated with this life.

Does memory of sorrow not bring forth present sorrow?

Sorrow isn't bad. In fact, it is often very good. It humbles the heart and mind. It focus priorities. It is the necessary byproduct of a independent mind.

Does memory of pain not bring forth present pain? Do you remember what it was like to be a sperm; when you lived a short life, in a small world, whose only goal was to form a relationship with the egg, that would take you from that world to a world where you would be given a new name, and form a relationship with your father? (my brother is writing an allegory about this, and it is a compelling concept, think through it). But you don't remember any of your life as a sperm. Why do you think that we would remember any of this life? It is just as transient in comparison to eternity as a sperms life is in comparison to this one.

To be exacting. I, me and I, was never just a sperm. My life, began in an union of two different seeds. Memory loss is an indication of physical defect of the brain or something similar.

"Remember no more" is actually a choice of the mind to "not consider" in the context of current circumstances. It doesn't mean that it "disappears".

One last time, it doesn't matter, and is not worth arguing over. All I know about Heaven is what is written in Scripture. And as I have pointed out, it says that the things of this life won't be brought to mind/heart. That is enough for me.

Arguments refine thought. Consider it the "fire" or purifying silver. God is good at winning arguments. Arguments are necessary.

Not trying to offend you. Just refining. Thanks

 

[Doug Brents]

Okay. I'll take that. The Scriptures don't teach that we will forget everything associated with this life.

They do present that more than they present memory of this life after the resurrection. But belief one way or the other does not impact salvation.

Sorrow isn't bad. In fact, it is often very good. It humbles the heart and mind. It focus priorities. It is the necessary byproduct of a independent mind.

But there will be no sorrow in Heaven. So we won't remember any sorrow, or we would experience sorrow, and there would be sorrow in Heaven.

To be exacting. I, me and I, was never just a sperm. My life, began in an union of two different seeds. Memory loss is an indication of physical defect of the brain or something similar.

Not always. Sometimes it is a function of desire to not remember something.

"Remember no more" is actually a choice of the mind to "not consider" in the context of current circumstances. It doesn't mean that it "disappears".

God can certainly cause memory to disappear; His own, and ours. As He said, as far as the east is from the west, He will remove our transgressions, and He will remember our sin no more.

Arguments refine thought. Consider it the "fire" or purifying silver. God is good at winning arguments. Arguments are necessary.

Not trying to offend you. Just refining. Thanks

No offense taken, or given I hope.
You are correct, argument and discussion hones and refines thought and understanding.

 

[praise_yeshua]

But there will be no sorrow in Heaven. So we won't remember any sorrow, or we would experience sorrow, and there would be sorrow in Heaven.

There will be no context of circumstances that will cause sorrow. God has sorrow for the wicked right this very moment in a perfect place of His Eternal dwelling and Excellence.

You're looking at this the wrong way. You've been taught this throughout your life and given the expectation that all challenges to life will disappear. Just make the argument that this will not happen. I'm not disappointed by those thoughts. I see it differently.

Not always. Sometimes it is a function of desire to not remember something.

Remembering something that was doesn't make it real right now.

When Paul wrote "neither has it entered in the hearts of man the things God has prepared for us" he was relating that our way of thinking and desires can't comprehend the vastness of Glory yet in our future.

Currently, at this very moment, through the Spirit of God, I'm not struggling due to what I remember. My memory affords me the contrast of excellence and mediocrity. I see so many reasons to not forget.

God can certainly cause memory to disappear; His own, and ours. As He said, as far as the east is from the west, He will remove our transgressions, and He will remember our sin no more.

Yes. I agree. I'm not trying to say "that our sin will be ever before us". The results of our own sins will fade away due to the wonderous environment we will have in the future. Just making a "nuisanced" argument for the necessity of regret. I can regret my sin and still enjoy the absence of it.

No offense taken, or given I hope.
You are correct, argument and discussion hones and refines thought and understanding.

None given. I appreciate the conversation. Thank you!

 

[FreeInChrist]

Do you think there are going to be actual horses in heaven too?

Yes.