He that believes and is not water baptised is saved

[dwight92070]

In context, who is being addressed? Israel. (vs. 1) What was the problem? Romans 10:3 - For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and seeking to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted to the righteousness of God. For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes. Seeking justification by law = zeal for God but not according to knowledge here. So, accusing me of having a zeal for God but not according to knowledge by citing Romans 10:2 is a false accusation. I am not an Israelite who is seeking justification by law. My faith is in Jesus Christ for salvation and is not in my own righteousness which is from the law. (Philippians 3:9)

John 6:40 - For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day. So, in John 6:40 and Romans 10:4 we see that those who believe have submitted to the righteousness of God and shall have eternal life. Elsewhere in Scripture, Jesus repeated multiple times that those who believe shall have eternal life. (John 3:15,16,18; 5:24; 6:29,40,47; 11:25,26) The apostle Paul also repeatedly said in Scripture that those who believe will be saved. (Acts 13:39; 16:31; Romans 1:16; 4:5-6; 1 Corinthians 1:21)

Should we also accuse Jesus and Paul of cherry picking and disregard those verses or should we believe Jesus and Paul?

"Cherry picking" means you're choosing the verses that prove your interpretation. How dare you? Of course, they don't have any verses that prove their interpretation, so they have to attack you for something, instead of believing your selection of verses.

 

[Seabass]

"Cherry picking" means you're choosing the verses that prove your interpretation. How dare you? Of course, they don't have any verses that prove their interpretation, so they have to attack you for something, instead of believing your selection of verses.

Cherry picking is when a person cherry picks only the verse(s) he claims supports his theological position while purposefully and obviously ignoring verse(s) that disproves his theological position.

in your post #1,280, you cherry picked Rom 1:16-17 to then claim belief only saves while purposefully ignoring Rom 2:4-5 that requires repentance, Rom 10:9-10 that requires confession and Rom 6:3-6 that requires baptism before one can walk in newness of life. When it comes to the topic of NT salvation, no one verse exhausts all there is to know about about salvation. Proper exegesis and logic require an examination of all salvific verses not just cherry picked ones while ignoring other verses.

 

[mailmandan]

"Cherry picking" means you're choosing the verses that prove your interpretation. How dare you? Of course, they don't have any verses that prove their interpretation, so they have to attack you for something, instead of believing your selection of verses.

We must properly harmonize scripture with scripture before reaching our conclusion on doctrine in order to avoid contradictions. Sadly, through bad semantics and flawed hermeneutics, certain folks end up distorting and perverting passages of scripture in an effort to "patch together" their so-called gospel plan which culminates in salvation by works. These same certain folks are more interested in accommodating their biased church doctrine at all costs than they are in seriously considering the truth.

 

[Aeliana]

That is one of the main reasons people join these forums.

Post in thread 'Promises for Your Everyday Life'

Monday at 9:04 AM

Carnal Christians and Spiritual Christians

because you are not yet spiritual. You are jealous and argue with each other. This proves you are not spiritual and you are acting like the people of this world.
1 Corinthians 3:3

There are two kinds of Christians, and you have to choose which one you will be. Will you be a carnal Christian or a spiritual Christian?A carnal Christian is a people-pleaser who cares more about what people think than about obeying God. They are immature, operating out of their emotions and doing whatever they feel like saying and doing.

They are...

• Aeliana

 

[360watt]

I believe Romans 6 is about water baptism, but not salvation.

Being baptized into Jesus's death is akin to being baptized for the remission of sins.

The baptism symbolizes His death (and resurrection) and is a commitment to live in a state of remission of sins.

Romans 6:4 KJV - 4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

This is not a salvation verse..but about service. This harmonizes with other verses such as Acts 2:38 and John 5:24.. showing the separation between salvation and service thru water baptism.

 

[Tothalordbeallglory]

We must properly harmonize scripture with scripture before reaching our conclusion on doctrine in order to avoid contradictions. Sadly, through bad semantics and flawed hermeneutics, certain folks end up distorting and perverting passages of scripture in an effort to "patch together" their so-called gospel plan which culminates in salvation by works. These same certain folks are more interested in accommodating their biased church doctrine at all costs than they are in seriously considering the truth.

JESUS came to save
but interfaith has come to grave and make this earth the largest graveyard on the day of the LORD .
REMEMBER . JESUS saves . Time to double down and to regulate and contend
for the only name the one true Gospel of JESUS THE CHRIST that can save .
Dont let the song of the pied piper and its big ol false love broad road fool anyone . that road ends in perdition .
But the sheep have eternal life , THANKS BE TO GOD , TO CHRIST JESUS . Now TO the trenches one
and to the trenches all .

 

[Doug Brents]

I believe Romans 6 is about water baptism, but not salvation.

Being baptized into Jesus's death is akin to being baptized for the remission of sins.

The baptism symbolizes His death (and resurrection) and is a commitment to live in a state of remission of sins.

Romans 6:4 KJV - 4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

This is not a salvation verse..but about service. This harmonizes with other verses such as Acts 2:38 and John 5:24.. showing the separation between salvation and service thru water baptism.

Of course Romans 6 is about salvation. Salvation from sin is what dying to sin means.

 

[mailmandan]

In Romans 6, baptism is presented as a symbolic representation of a believer's union with Christ in His death, burial and resurrection. It signifies a believer' death to sin and rising to a new life in Him. This symbol is not the reality which is found in Spirit baptism (1 Corinthians 12:13) but is a picture of the reality.

 

[Titus]

Romans 6:1-4; 7,
- how shall we that are dead to sin live any longer therein

How did they put sin to death? Keep reading.
- know ye not(Didn't house know) that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into His death
- therefore we are buried with Him by baptism into death that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father even so we also should walk in newness of life
- for if we have been planted together in the likeness of His ressurection
- Knowing this that our old man is crucified with Him that the body of sin might be destroyed that henceforth we should not serve sin

- for he that is dead(old sinful man is put to death in the burial of water baptism)
- for he that is dead is freed(justified)from sin(born again in newness of life)

Paul teaches in baptism one is freed from sin meaning one is justified.
Justification is occurs when God saves man.
Not before not after salvation.
Justified to be freed from sin.

Obeying the gospel commandment of baptism according to Paul is what free us from our sins.
Romans 6:7-17,
- but God be thanked that ye were the servants of sin but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine(gospel) which was delivered you

- being made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness

The gospel saved them shem they obeyed the gospel command to be baptized into Christ, Romans 6:4.

 

[Peterlag]

Romans 6:1-4; 7,
- how shall we that are dead to sin live any longer therein

How did they put sin to death? Keep reading.
- know ye not(Didn't house know) that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into His death
- therefore we are buried with Him by baptism into death that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father even so we also should walk in newness of life
- for if we have been planted together in the likeness of His ressurection
- Knowing this that our old man is crucified with Him that the body of sin might be destroyed that henceforth we should not serve sin

- for he that is dead(old sinful man is put to death in the burial of water baptism)
- for he that is dead is freed(justified)from sin(born again in newness of life)

Paul teaches in baptism one is freed from sin meaning one is justified.
Justification is occurs when God saves man.
Not before not after salvation.
Justified to be freed from sin.

Obeying the gospel commandment of baptism according to Paul is what free us from our sins.
Romans 6:7-17,
- but God be thanked that ye were the servants of sin but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine(gospel) which was delivered you

- being made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness

The gospel saved them shem they obeyed the gospel command to be baptized into Christ, Romans 6:4.

The word "baptism" means to immerse and in Romans that does not mean in water and I see no mention of water in Romans 6 that you are referring to when you wrote...

- for he that is dead(old sinful man is put to death in the burial of water baptism)

 

[Titus]

The word "baptism" means to immerse and in Romans that does not mean in water and I see no mention of water in Romans 6 that you are referring to when you wrote...

- for he that is dead(old sinful man is put to death in the burial of water baptism)

Paul says they obeyed that pattern of doctrine that freed them from sin

Only water baptism is a command that is obeyed, Acts 2:38; Acts 10:47-48, Matthew 28:18-20.
Holy Spirit baptism is not a command but a promise, Acts 1:4.

You cannot obey a promise.
You obey a command.

Even Paul said he was freed from sin in his water immersion,
Acts 22:16,
- and now why are you waiting Arise and be baptized and wash away your sins calling on the name of the Lord

Jesus instructed Ananias to tell Paul what he must do, Acts 9:6.
Ananias speaking for Jesus commanded Paul to be baptized.
Paul obeyed that form of doctrine that he teaches about in Romans 6.

 

[Red Baker]

@Titus

Romans 6:1-4; 7,
- how shall we that are dead to sin live any longer therein

You folks who believe in baptismal regeneration, are preaching another gospel.

Question for you to answer: How are believers dead to sins legally? Let Paul, who was not of the modern day Church of Christ tell us.

Romans 7:4​

“Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.”

That are dead to sin.

In what sense are believers dead to sin? For sin is very much alive in our members (Romans 7:9,23).

In what sense are believers dead to sin? Is this the eternal, legal, or vital phases of salvation? The eternal phase of salvation, election, is God’s plan to save from sin. We keep looking. The legal phase of salvation, justification, is Christ’s payment for sin. We keep looking. The vital phase of salvation, regeneration, is the Spirit’s power over sin. We look more. The final phase of salvation, glorification, is yet future freedom from the presence of sin.

There is a practical phase of salvation, conversion, in which believers have died against sin. Yet, believers are not dead to sin in any absolute way, even when greatly converted, for sin is still alive in their members and keeps them from living unto God perfectly. Paul was crucified with Christ against the world, and the world against him (Galatians 6:14).

The context of this phrase teaches us a figurative way that we are dead to sin ~ by water baptism!

Though we are dead to sin legally through Jesus Christ’s death, (Romans 7:4) that is not the context. The context of this passage is reckoning ourselves to be dead to sin in Christ (verse 11). The context teaches figurative identification with Jesus Christ by symbolism of baptism. Yet it is Jesus Christ death for the legal payment for our sins that is the basis of baptism, which baptism pictures so beautifully.

Romans 6:1-4; 7,
- how shall we that are dead to sin live any longer therein

Believers are dead to the consequences of sin ~ condemnation through the body of Jesus Christ, not through water baptism. It cannot be both ~ and it is certainly not water baptism. Consider:

Romans 6:3-5~"Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:"

Without question, this baptism is speaking of water baptism by immersion, it is not even debatable.

"baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death"

Into, or, into Jesus' religion/faith/teachings, etc., is the "only" meaning that can be correct, since baptism is an answer to God from a good conscience (made so by the new birth of the Spirit of God) concerning the record God has given to us of His Son's purpose of coming into the world to give his life for the world...Jews and Gentiles, the sheep of God among each. Water Baptism is an commitment to follow Jesus Christ and his gospel/teachings, with all of our hearts, soul and mind, unto death, or until Christ returns again as he promised to do for us, that where he is, there shall be be also.

"Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death"~

Proving that this is without question, water baptism...and that by immersion. Our baptism of identification with Jesus Christ’s is clearly related by immersion to His death. For 2000 years, the true disciples of Jesus Christ have identified themselves with His death by being buried under water by immersion as a declaration of unity in His death. Bible baptism, or immersion, declares one dead to sinful living in unity with Jesus Christ. Though our burial by baptism also involves a symbolic resurrection to walk in a new life.

"that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life."
If Jesus rose from the dead to a new life in the presence of God, we should do the same.

"For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:"

Baptism, shows forth a few truths, one is here before us. By our baptism we are saying that we fully believe in a future bodily resurrection, or else why are we being baptized, if there is no future resurrection is the meaning of this scripture:

1st Corinthians 15:29​

“Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead?”

Some at Corinth were teaching that there is no resurrection of the dead, yet Paul used their water baptism to show just how foolish they were since they were professing by their baptism that they believe ALL of the record that God has given to us through gospel concerning his Son, one being in a future resurrection that Christ's death and resurrection secured for those that believe the report preach by the apostles and others.

Only through Christ's blood is there legal forgiveness of our sins, not through any work that we have had an active part in, including, but not limited to water baptism.

 

[Titus]

You folks who believe in baptismal regeneration, are preaching another gospel

You taught me no power in the gospel to save.
You taught me we are saved before faith in the gospel.
You have no legs to stand on accusing me of not believing in the power of the gospel,
Romans 1:14,
- for I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ for  it is the power of God unto salvation...

Unto means leads to future, accomplished in future.
You've got people saved looking back to the past, before the gospel.

Who is really defending the power is in the gospel leading to salvation?

Who is denying the power of the gospel is the means for salvation?

Saved before the gospel, Red Bakers docttine.
Saved by the gospel, myself and Paul's doctrine, Romans 6:7;17

Galatians 1:8

 

[Titus]

what sense are believers dead to sin? For sin is very much alive in our members (Romans 7:9,23).

In what sense are believers dead to sin? Is this the eternal, legal, or vital phases of salvation? The eternal phase of salvation, election, is God’s plan to save from sin. We keep looking. The legal phase of salvation, justification, is Christ’s payment for sin. We keep looking. The vital phase of salvation, regeneration, is the Spirit’s power over sin. We look more. The final phase of salvation, glorification, is yet future freedom from the presence of sin.

There is a practical phase of salvation, conversion, in which believers have died against sin. Yet, believers are not dead to sin in any absolute way, even when greatly converted, for sin is still alive in their members and keeps them from living unto God perfectly. Paul was crucified with Christ against the world, and the world against him (Galatians 6:14)

Not taught in the Bible.

All are saved justified, sanctified the instant God puts us in Christ.
1 Corinthians 1:30,
- and because of Him you are  in Christ Jesus who became to us wisdom from God righteousness and sanctification and redemption

Justified, sanctified, redeemed the moment God puts us in Christ.
Galatians 3:26-27,
- for as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

Romans 6:3,7
- know ye not that so many of us as were baptized  into Jesus Christ were baptized into His death
- for he that is dead is freed(justified) from sin

You only are justified when the blood of Christ washes away your sins.

Romans 5:9,
- Since therefore we have been justified by His blood much more shall we be saved by Him from the wrath of God

 

[Peterlag]

Paul says they obeyed that pattern of doctrine that freed them from sin

Only water baptism is a command that is obeyed, Acts 2:38; Acts 10:47-48, Matthew 28:18-20.
Holy Spirit baptism is not a command but a promise, Acts 1:4.

You cannot obey a promise.
You obey a command.

Even Paul said he was freed from sin in his water immersion,
Acts 22:16,
- and now why are you waiting Arise and be baptized and wash away your sins calling on the name of the Lord

Jesus instructed Ananias to tell Paul what he must do, Acts 9:6.
Ananias speaking for Jesus commanded Paul to be baptized.
Paul obeyed that form of doctrine that he teaches about in Romans 6.

Water baptism is a carryover from part of the Levitical Law. There are many examples of people in the Old Testament who would wash themselves with water as a final step to being clean. Water baptism was an outward sign of washing, and then you would be clean to God. Baptism in water, and the need to be circumcised passed away with the coming of Pentecost, as did the other Levitical Laws. To be led by the spirit is to not be under the yoke of bondage with the extreme of legalism, seeking the works of the flesh from the old covenant concerning the past Law administration that was written to Israel.

It's clear from the gospels that water baptism had to do with the kingdom, which was ministered by John who was known as the Baptizer, and not a minister for the Church of God. John who was a prophet functioning under the old covenant was appointed by God to prepare and confirm the promises made to Israel. His message was to tell those who lived under the old covenant that the king had come and “the kingdom of heaven is at hand.” He used water as a sign to baptize those who believed the promised Messiah would be coming in just a matter of months and to illustrate that he would be the Christ, who would baptize them not with material water, but with holy spirit, which is “power from on high.” From the habit of tradition, and only for a short period of time, a small handful of people were baptized with water into the New Testament, but never again afterwards.

In the epistles written just a little bit past the beginning of the New Testament is where we read the only time water baptism is mentioned is to note there is no more need for it, and that we are now to be baptized with holy spirit. And this is why in Acts 2:38, Peter commands “Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ.” In Acts 8:16, Peter and John “baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.” In Acts 10:48, Peter “commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord.” In Romans 6:3, it declares “that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ.” There is not one exception to this practice where we see water baptism, which belonged to the time period when Christ walked the earth, being used once the Church of God had become established.

 

[dwight92070]

Cherry picking is when a person cherry picks only the verse(s) he claims supports his theological position while purposefully and obviously ignoring verse(s) that disproves his theological position.

in your post #1,280, you cherry picked Rom 1:16-17 to then claim belief only saves while purposefully ignoring Rom 2:4-5 that requires repentance, Rom 10:9-10 that requires confession and Rom 6:3-6 that requires baptism before one can walk in newness of life. When it comes to the topic of NT salvation, no one verse exhausts all there is to know about about salvation. Proper exegesis and logic require an examination of all salvific verses not just cherry picked ones while ignoring other verses.

If someone believes in Jesus, that means he believes and obeys what He says about any topic - for example, repentance. If Jesus tells someone who believes in Him to repent, he will repent. If He tells him to jump, he says "How high?"
This is why Peter can say the following: "Of Him all the prophets bear witness that through His name everyone who believes in Him receives forgiveness of sins." Acts 10:43
There's no mention of repentance here but the very fact that they believed and received forgiveness, makes is clear that they also repented.

This is not rocket science - even you guys should be able to figure this out. On the other hand, maybe not, since you're stuck on the false notion of confession and baptism being required for salvation.

I have not ignored ANY scripture - especially not purposely. I deal with EVERY verse head on. You may not agree with my interpretation, but you can't accuse me of ignoring ANY verse in the Bible. Anyone who has read my posts can see that. Obviously that does not mean that whenever a topic is brought up, I must produce every verse that has to do with that topic. If we all did that, we would produce posts that are a mile long and spend so much time writing them that we wouldn't have a life elsewhere. Actually that may describe some people here.

 

[Titus]

Water baptism is a carryover from part of the Levitical Law. There are many examples of people in the Old Testament who would wash themselves with water as a final step to being clean. Water baptism was an outward sign of washing, and then you would be clean to God. Baptism in water, and the need to be circumcised passed away with the coming of Pentecost, as did the other Levitical Laws. To be led by the spirit is to not be under the yoke of bondage with the extreme of legalism, seeking the works of the flesh from the old covenant concerning the past Law administration that was written to Israel.

It's clear from the gospels that water baptism had to do with the kingdom, which was ministered by John who was known as the Baptizer, and not a minister for the Church of God. John who was a prophet functioning under the old covenant was appointed by God to prepare and confirm the promises made to Israel. His message was to tell those who lived under the old covenant that the king had come and “the kingdom of heaven is at hand.” He used water as a sign to baptize those who believed the promised Messiah would be coming in just a matter of months and to illustrate that he would be the Christ, who would baptize them not with material water, but with holy spirit, which is “power from on high.” From the habit of tradition, and only for a short period of time, a small handful of people were baptized with water into the New Testament, but never again afterwards.

In the epistles written just a little bit past the beginning of the New Testament is where we read the only time water baptism is mentioned is to note there is no more need for it, and that we are now to be baptized with holy spirit. And this is why in Acts 2:38, Peter commands “Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ.” In Acts 8:16, Peter and John “baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.” In Acts 10:48, Peter “commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord.” In Romans 6:3, it declares “that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ.” There is not one exception to this practice where we see water baptism, which belonged to the time period when Christ walked the earth, being used once the Church of God had become established.

Jesus' great commission is for all time, Matthew 28:18-20.
Peter first preached it on pentecost, Acts 2.
Water baptism is for all nations and all creation(same) Mark 16:15-16.
Nowhere does the Bible teach new testament baptism in the gospel of Jesus Christ ended.
It is Jesus' will and testament. That's when it began when Jesus' will went into force, Hebrews 9:16-17.
Matthew 28:19-20,
- baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you,
And behold I am with you always to the end of the age

Make disciples.
Baptize all of them.
Teach them to observe all things that Jesus commands them.
To the end of the age, till Christ returns.

Water baptism is is commanded to all nations till Jesus returns.

 

[Jim]

Jesus' great commission is for all time, Matthew 28:18-20.
Peter first preached it on pentecost, Acts 2.
Water baptism is for all nations and all creation(same) Mark 16:15-16.
Nowhere does the Bible teach new testament baptism in the gospel of Jesus Christ ended.
It is Jesus' will and testament. That's when it began when Jesus' will went into force, Hebrews 9:16-17.
Matthew 28:19-20,
- baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you,
And behold I am with you always to the end of the age

Make disciples.
Baptize all of them.
Teach them to observe all things that Jesus commands them.
To the end of the age, till Christ returns.

Water baptism is is commanded to all nations till Jesus returns.

In the great commission by Jesus in Matthew 28:18-20, we are not told to baptize and teach disciples of all nations. Jesus actually says there that it is by baptizing and teaching that the disciples are to be made. In that sentence, in both Greek and English, the words baptizing and teaching are not in the imperative mood. The only imperative is the word "make". The words baptizing and teaching are both participles modifying the imperative verb "make". Specifically baptizing and teaching is Christ Jesus' description of how we are to make disciples of the peoples of all nations.

I would add the comment here that even the word "Go" in Greek is not in the imperative mood. It also is a participle. Strictly speaking the Greek says, "[In] going therefore, make disciples of [i.e., disciple] all [Gentiles, heathen, nations, " Thus, it is the people that are to be made disciples by baptizing and teaching them.

 

[Peterlag]

Jesus' great commission is for all time, Matthew 28:18-20.
Peter first preached it on pentecost, Acts 2.
Water baptism is for all nations and all creation(same) Mark 16:15-16.
Nowhere does the Bible teach new testament baptism in the gospel of Jesus Christ ended.
It is Jesus' will and testament. That's when it began when Jesus' will went into force, Hebrews 9:16-17.
Matthew 28:19-20,
- baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you,
And behold I am with you always to the end of the age

Make disciples.
Baptize all of them.
Teach them to observe all things that Jesus commands them.
To the end of the age, till Christ returns.

Water baptism is is commanded to all nations till Jesus returns.

The early church was always baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus until the development of the Trinity doctrine in the 2nd century. The Catholics acknowledge baptism was changed and Scripture such as Matthew 28:19 that was never in the Bible was added by them.

Baptism was changed from the name of Jesus to the words Father, Son and Holy Ghost in the 2nd Century. -Britannica Encyclopedia, 11th Edition, Volume 3, page 365.

The early church baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus until the second century. - Canney Encyclopedia of Religion, page 53.

Christian baptism was administered using the words "in the name of Jesus." page 377. Baptism was always done in the name of Jesus until the time of Justin Martyr, page 389. - Hastings Encyclopedia of Religion,Volume 2.

Here the authors acknowledged that the baptismal formula was changed by their church. - Catholic Encyclopedia, Volume 2, page 263.

The New Testament knows only the baptism in the name of Jesus. - Schaff & Herzog Religious Encyclopedia, Volume 1, page 435.

It must be acknowledged that the three fold name of Matthew 28:19 does not appear to have been used by the primitive church, but rather in the name of Jesus, Jesus Christ or Lord Jesus. - Hastings Dictionary of Bible, page 88.

And concerning 1 John 5:7-8 where it has the words "In heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost, and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth" are words that are not found in any Greek Manuscript before the 15th or 16th century and in no ancient Version. - E. W. Bullinger., A Critical Lexicon and Concordance to the English and Greek New Testament: (London: Samuel Bagster & Sons, 1975), p. 11 of Appendix A.

 

[FreeInChrist]

The early church was always baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus until the development of the Trinity doctrine in the 2nd century. The Catholics acknowledge baptism was changed and Scripture such as Matthew 28:19 that was never in the Bible was added by them.

Baptism was changed from the name of Jesus to the words Father, Son and Holy Ghost in the 2nd Century. -Britannica Encyclopedia, 11th Edition, Volume 3, page 365.

The early church baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus until the second century. - Canney Encyclopedia of Religion, page 53.

Christian baptism was administered using the words "in the name of Jesus." page 377. Baptism was always done in the name of Jesus until the time of Justin Martyr, page 389. - Hastings Encyclopedia of Religion,Volume 2.

Here the authors acknowledged that the baptismal formula was changed by their church. - Catholic Encyclopedia, Volume 2, page 263.

The New Testament knows only the baptism in the name of Jesus. - Schaff & Herzog Religious Encyclopedia, Volume 1, page 435.

It must be acknowledged that the three fold name of Matthew 28:19 does not appear to have been used by the primitive church, but rather in the name of Jesus, Jesus Christ or Lord Jesus. - Hastings Dictionary of Bible, page 88.

And concerning 1 John 5:7-8 where it has the words "In heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost, and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth" are words that are not found in any Greek Manuscript before the 15th or 16th century and in no ancient Version. - E. W. Bullinger., A Critical Lexicon and Concordance to the English and Greek New Testament: (London: Samuel Bagster & Sons, 1975), p. 11 of Appendix A.

Whose name was Jesus baptized into?