He that believes and is not water baptised is saved

[civic]

They have , you just refuse to acknowledge it. They have figured out the right interpretation as compared to your false interpretation. New Christians are to be baptized after they Receive Christ as their savior...

Yes baptism always follows salvation, faith in the gospel message concerning Christ. It just the opposite of circumcision as an infant. Infants cannot believe the gospel. Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of Christ- the gospel message.

 

[Bubba]

Yes baptism always follows salvation, faith in the gospel message concerning Christ. It just the opposite of circumcision as an infant. Infants cannot believe the gospel. Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of Christ- the gospel message.

Correct. I don’t think that baptism conveys regeneration either for infants or for adults. Regeneration is a sovereign work of God the Holy Spirit.
Now, baptism is a sign of regeneration, but that doesn’t mean the sign is conveyed automatically by the sacrament itself.

Jesus regenerates us, by breathing new life into our soul. Jesus tells us that He came so that we may have life. John 10:10.

It's also important to note that we can’t assume that just because somebody has been baptized that, therefore, they are regenerate.

The only means of regeneration is by faith in the finished work of Christ on the cross. Baptism Is definitely not the means of regeneration.

 

[Truther]

They have , you just refuse to acknowledge it. They have figured out the right interpretation as compared to your false interpretation. New Christians are to be baptized after they Receive Christ as their savior...

No, repent and be baptized. It doesn’t say receive Christ and be baptized. Who made that up?

 

[Truther]

Right...You have no idea what anyone else here is saying, Because of it contradicts your false interpretation and your belief in baptismal regeneration.
So keep trying but don't expect anyone to buy into it.

Acts 2:38 has only one interpretation. You just read it and obey it. Most Christians wouldn’t even try to obey it. They are Catholics by nature.

 

[Bubba]

Acts 2:38 has only one interpretation. You just read it and obey it. Most Christians wouldn’t even try to obey it. They are Catholics by nature.

Wrong again, you're batting a thousand. Being consistently wrong is very dangerous when it comes to Christian doctrine. Especially the one you believe in about baptism. There are many posts in this thread members have attempted to point it out to you.

The Danger of False Doctrine

Some Christians think we shouldn’t focus on doctrine as long as we maintain a vibrant community in the church. In this brief clip, R.C. Sproul explores the Past

www.ligonier.org

 

[Truther]

Wrong again, you're batting a thousand. Being consistently wrong is very dangerous when it comes to Christian doctrine. Especially the one you believe in about baptism. There are many posts in this thread members have attempted to point it out to you.

The Danger of False Doctrine

Some Christians think we shouldn’t focus on doctrine as long as we maintain a vibrant community in the church. In this brief clip, R.C. Sproul explores the Past

www.ligonier.org

This is false doctrine?… 38 Then Peter said unto them, repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins…

It looks to me like this is specifically how Peter instructed the 3000 at Pentecost to obtain remission of sins. It looks to me like anybody that disobeys him does not get remission of sins. I think we need to get rid of modernism and go back to the original.

 

[Samson]

No, repent and be baptized. It doesn’t say receive Christ and be baptized. Who made that up?

Yes! They cannot be separated; they are two different aspects of the one event of conversion in which a person comes to Christ for salvation.

It's not made up it's called God's plan of salvation.

Many understand the term repentance to mean “a turning from sin.” Regretting sin and turning from it are related to repentance, but are not the precise meaning of the word. In the Bible, the word repent means “to change one’s mind.” The Bible also tells us that true repentance will result in a change of actions (Luke 3:8–14; Acts 3:19). In summarizing his ministry, Paul declares, “I preached that they should repent and turn to God and demonstrate their repentance by their deeds” (Acts 26:20). The short biblical definition of repentance is “a change of mind that results in a change of action.” Theology/Mix

 

[Bubba]

This is false doctrine?… 38 Then Peter said unto them, repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins…

It looks to me like this is specifically how Peter instructed the 3000 at Pentecost to obtain remission of sins. It looks to me like anybody that disobeys him does not get remission of sins. I think we need to get rid of modernism and go back to the original.

Your interpretation is false doctrine.

 

[Gloria]

I believe in water baptism, as taught and demonstrated by Jesus, as the way for believers to identify with the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus. But it doesn't save us.

Matthew 28:19; Romans 6:4; Matthew 3:13-17

 

[360watt]

Yes! They cannot be separated; they are two different aspects of the one event of conversion in which a person comes to Christ for salvation.

It's not made up it's called God's plan of salvation.

Many understand the term repentance to mean “a turning from sin.” Regretting sin and turning from it are related to repentance, but are not the precise meaning of the word. In the Bible, the word repent means “to change one’s mind.” The Bible also tells us that true repentance will result in a change of actions (Luke 3:8–14; Acts 3:19). In summarizing his ministry, Paul declares, “I preached that they should repent and turn to God and demonstrate their repentance by their deeds” (Acts 26:20). The short biblical definition of repentance is “a change of mind that results in a change of action.” Theology/Mix

The trouble with 'turning from sin' is that can easily be interpreted as a work. Repent I see in scripture as going from unbelief to belief..not a change of behavior..which can only happen after first being converted.

 

[Truther]

Yes! They cannot be separated; they are two different aspects of the one event of conversion in which a person comes to Christ for salvation.

It's not made up it's called God's plan of salvation.

Many understand the term repentance to mean “a turning from sin.” Regretting sin and turning from it are related to repentance, but are not the precise meaning of the word. In the Bible, the word repent means “to change one’s mind.” The Bible also tells us that true repentance will result in a change of actions (Luke 3:8–14; Acts 3:19). In summarizing his ministry, Paul declares, “I preached that they should repent and turn to God and demonstrate their repentance by their deeds” (Acts 26:20). The short biblical definition of repentance is “a change of mind that results in a change of action.” Theology/Mix

Yes, it cannot be separated…

38 Then Peter said unto them repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins…

 

[Truther]

Your interpretation is false doctrine.

Please explain what I am not seeing per Acts 2:38?

I mean, please post the verse.

Are you even willing to post Acts 2:38?

 

[Samson]

Yes, it cannot be separated…

38 Then Peter said unto them repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins…

Yes, it cannot be separated…

38 Then Peter said unto them repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins…

They cannot be separated and you have to follow the correct order of salvation. After you've saved baptism is an outward ceremony that shows it inward conviction.

The Bible repeatedly says that we are “saved, through faith” (Ephesians 2:8). Paul told the Philippian jailor, “Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved...” (Acts 16:31).

To him give all the prophets witness, that...whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins. (Acts 10:43)

For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. (Romans 10:11)

For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. (Romans 10:13)

First you believe and then afterwards you get baptized. Faith and believing in Jesus is what saves you not baptism.

 

[Samson]

The trouble with 'turning from sin' is that can easily be interpreted as a work. Repent I see in scripture as going from unbelief to belief..not a change of behavior..which can only happen after first being converted.

I understand what you're saying in your post and it's just one of them descriptive type of language you can use when you witness to someone.

Here is a definition I found in my Bible Software.

In the Bible, the word repent means “to change one’s mind.” The Bible also tells us that true repentance will result in a change of actions (Luke 3:8–14; Acts 3:19). In summarizing his ministry, Paul declares, “I preached that they should repent and turn to God and demonstrate their repentance by their deeds” (Acts 26:20). The short biblical definition of repentance is “a change of mind that results in a change of action.”

 

[Bubba]

Please explain what I am not seeing per Acts 2:38?

I mean, please post the verse.

Are you even willing to post Acts 2:38?

What you're not seeing is that your interpretation is false doctrine. Your Biblical hermeneutics are non-existent. Not to mention your lack of effective and faithful methods of interpretation, you fail understand the meaning of the text and therefore you build false biblical theologies, like Baptismal Regeneration.

Feel free to ask me more questions about what you're missing. I’ll help you to think through issues you're having in your biblical hermeneutics so you can better interpret God’s Word.

We'll start with this one.

We'll look into the biblical passages that clearly and explicitly declare faith to be the only requirement for salvation. John 3:16, one of the most well-known verses in the Bible, states, “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.” In Acts 16:30, the Philippian jailer asks the apostle Paul, “What must I do to be saved?” If there was ever an opportunity for Paul to present a four-part formula, this was it. Paul’s response was simple: “Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved” (Acts 16:31). No baptism just faith.

 

[Truther]

They cannot be separated and you have to follow the correct order of salvation. After you've saved baptism is an outward ceremony that shows it inward conviction.

The Bible repeatedly says that we are “saved, through faith” (Ephesians 2:8). Paul told the Philippian jailor, “Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved...” (Acts 16:31).

To him give all the prophets witness, that...whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins. (Acts 10:43)

For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. (Romans 10:11)

For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. (Romans 10:13)

First you believe and then afterwards you get baptized. Faith and believing in Jesus is what saves you not baptism.

What happened to the Philippian jailer immediately after he believed on the Lord Jesus Christ… I mean, within the same hour?
I will give you a hint… It starts with a B.

Now, what did Jesus say per Mark 16:16?… He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved.
Do you see any similarities there?

 

[Truther]

What you're not seeing is that your interpretation is false doctrine. Your Biblical hermeneutics are non-existent. Not to mention your lack of effective and faithful methods of interpretation, you fail understand the meaning of the text and therefore you build false biblical theologies, like Baptismal Regeneration.

Feel free to ask me more questions about what you're missing. I’ll help you to think through issues you're having in your biblical hermeneutics so you can better interpret God’s Word.

We'll start with this one.

We'll look into the biblical passages that clearly and explicitly declare faith to be the only requirement for salvation. John 3:16, one of the most well-known verses in the Bible, states, “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.” In Acts 16:30, the Philippian jailer asks the apostle Paul, “What must I do to be saved?” If there was ever an opportunity for Paul to present a four-part formula, this was it. Paul’s response was simple: “Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved” (Acts 16:31). No baptism just faith.

Will you post Acts 2:38?

I will go so far as to say I dare you to post it.

It is highly unlikely that you are not able to do so.

 

[Samson]

What happened to the Philippian jailer immediately after he believed on the Lord Jesus Christ… I mean, within the same hour?
I will give you a hint… It starts with a B.

Now, what did Jesus say per Mark 1616?… He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved.
Do you see any similarities there?

The similarities are baptism didn't save them they believed in Jesus.

 

[Truther]

The similarities are baptism didn't save them they believed in Jesus.

He was baptized along with his household in the name of Jesus Christ. It all happened within one hour. Have you been baptized in the name of Jesus Christ since you believed? If not, why not?

 

[Truther]

Hi, dare anybody on this forum to cut and paste the verse Acts 2:38.

It may be one of the hardest things you’ve ever done on a forum.