He that believes and is not water baptised is saved

Truther said:
KJ21. The like figure to this, even baptism, doth also now save us….


Down goes your paper tower
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My paper towels go in the recyclables. Now false theology based on Misinterpretation of the bible such as water baptism is necessary for salvation that goes into gray dumpster headed straight for the landfill bury that stuff. But I do have something that may help you.

How to handle false theology​

Handling false theology requires a thoughtful and discerning approach. Here are some key steps to help you navigate this complex issue:
  • Read a variety of resources: One writer or group does not have complete purchase on Christian theology. Read different perspectives, evaluate the arguments, and weigh them against the essentials.
  • Evaluate arguments: Consider the evidence, logic, and biblical support for each perspective. Be willing to question and challenge your own beliefs and those of others.
  • Weigh against the essentials: Identify the core teachings of Christianity and evaluate each perspective against these essentials. This will help you distinguish between truth and error.
  • Find somewhere to land: After evaluating different perspectives, find a place where you can rest your faith. This may require humility, patience, and a willingness to learn and grow.
Understanding the Dangers of False Theology
  • False worship: The danger of our world’s false form of worshiping God is that it often lacks a clearly defined object of faith. This can lead to faith resting on the person themselves or an inflated projection of their ideal self, which is treacherous footing.
  • Inflated projections: Be cautious of inflated projections of your ideal self or others. These can lead to false worship and a lack of true faith.
Seeking Guidance
  • Seek wisdom from trusted sources: Consult trusted theologians, pastors, and teachers who are grounded in biblical truth.
  • Pray for discernment: Ask God to give you wisdom and discernment as you navigate complex theological issues.
  • Be willing to learn: Be open to learning and growing in your understanding of God’s Word and His truth.
Remember, handling false theology requires a humble and discerning approach. By seeking wisdom, evaluating arguments, and weighing against the essentials, you can navigate this complex issue and grow in your faith.
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Aeliana said:
My paper towels go in the recyclables. Now false theology based on Misinterpretation of the bible such as water baptism is necessary for salvation that goes into gray dumpster headed straight for the landfill bury that stuff. But I do have something that may help you.

How to handle false theology​

Handling false theology requires a thoughtful and discerning approach. Here are some key steps to help you navigate this complex issue:
  • Read a variety of resources: One writer or group does not have complete purchase on Christian theology. Read different perspectives, evaluate the arguments, and weigh them against the essentials.
  • Evaluate arguments: Consider the evidence, logic, and biblical support for each perspective. Be willing to question and challenge your own beliefs and those of others.
  • Weigh against the essentials: Identify the core teachings of Christianity and evaluate each perspective against these essentials. This will help you distinguish between truth and error.
  • Find somewhere to land: After evaluating different perspectives, find a place where you can rest your faith. This may require humility, patience, and a willingness to learn and grow.
Understanding the Dangers of False Theology
  • False worship: The danger of our world’s false form of worshiping God is that it often lacks a clearly defined object of faith. This can lead to faith resting on the person themselves or an inflated projection of their ideal self, which is treacherous footing.
  • Inflated projections: Be cautious of inflated projections of your ideal self or others. These can lead to false worship and a lack of true faith.
Seeking Guidance
  • Seek wisdom from trusted sources: Consult trusted theologians, pastors, and teachers who are grounded in biblical truth.
  • Pray for discernment: Ask God to give you wisdom and discernment as you navigate complex theological issues.
  • Be willing to learn: Be open to learning and growing in your understanding of God’s Word and His truth.
Remember, handling false theology requires a humble and discerning approach. By seeking wisdom, evaluating arguments, and weighing against the essentials, you can navigate this complex issue and grow in your faith.
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What is the matter with this?…

KJ21. The like figure to this, even baptism, doth also now save us…
 
Truther said:
What is the matter with this?…

KJ21. The like figure to this, even baptism, doth also now save us…
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Oh let's see, First off baptism can't save you it's the blood of Jesus, nothing but the blood, water don't do it. Baptism is a symbol that you've been saved by believing in Jesus and his death on the cross to take your sins away.
 
Aeliana said:
Oh let's see, First off baptism can't save you it's the blood of Jesus, nothing but the blood, water don't do it. Baptism is a symbol that you've been saved by believing in Jesus and his death on the cross to take your sins away.
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Baptism doth now save us…..


Huh?
 
Aeliana said:
My paper towels go in the recyclables. Now false theology based on Misinterpretation of the bible such as water baptism is necessary for salvation that goes into gray dumpster headed straight for the landfill bury that stuff. But I do have something that may help you.

How to handle false theology​

Handling false theology requires a thoughtful and discerning approach. Here are some key steps to help you navigate this complex issue:
  • Read a variety of resources: One writer or group does not have complete purchase on Christian theology. Read different perspectives, evaluate the arguments, and weigh them against the essentials.
  • Evaluate arguments: Consider the evidence, logic, and biblical support for each perspective. Be willing to question and challenge your own beliefs and those of others.
  • Weigh against the essentials: Identify the core teachings of Christianity and evaluate each perspective against these essentials. This will help you distinguish between truth and error.
  • Find somewhere to land: After evaluating different perspectives, find a place where you can rest your faith. This may require humility, patience, and a willingness to learn and grow.
Understanding the Dangers of False Theology
  • False worship: The danger of our world’s false form of worshiping God is that it often lacks a clearly defined object of faith. This can lead to faith resting on the person themselves or an inflated projection of their ideal self, which is treacherous footing.
  • Inflated projections: Be cautious of inflated projections of your ideal self or others. These can lead to false worship and a lack of true faith.
Seeking Guidance
  • Seek wisdom from trusted sources: Consult trusted theologians, pastors, and teachers who are grounded in biblical truth.
  • Pray for discernment: Ask God to give you wisdom and discernment as you navigate complex theological issues.
  • Be willing to learn: Be open to learning and growing in your understanding of God’s Word and His truth.
Remember, handling false theology requires a humble and discerning approach. By seeking wisdom, evaluating arguments, and weighing against the essentials, you can navigate this complex issue and grow in your faith.
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I said paper tower, not towel.

One verse debunk your entire idea
 
TomL said:
Actually it does

all men has no meaning of "other sheep"
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Dont have to appear for it to still be the Sheep, Sheep appeared in Jn 10, that laid the foundation as to who Jesus draws to Himself by His Death. When He says He must bring His Sheep in Jn 10:16

16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.

Well that's relatively the same as must draw in Jn 12:32
 
Truther said:
Cornelius was doing alms and good works, which got God‘s attention long before Peter showed up. You are saying that saved him. So why did Peter show up?
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Cornelius was saved by Christ, God ordained for him to walk in good works Eph 2:10

10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
 
brightfame52 said:
Dont have to appear for it to still be the Sheep, Sheep appeared in Jn 10, that laid the foundation as to who Jesus draws to Himself by His Death. When He says He must bring His Sheep in Jn 10:16

16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.

Well that's relatively the same as must draw in Jn 12:32
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Again if one is not following one is not that person's sheep
 
TomL said:
Again if one is not following one is not that person's sheep
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Dont have to appear for it to still be the Sheep, Sheep appeared in Jn 10, that laid the foundation as to who Jesus draws to Himself by His Death. When He says He must bring His Sheep in Jn 10:16

16 And other sheep I have[present tense], which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall[future tense] hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.

Well that's relatively the same as must draw in Jn 12:32
 
Aeliana said:
You never debunked anything except for that one time you fell out of bed then you were debunked. You may have been dreaming about being baptized and they held you under for too long. :ROFLMAO:
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Oh, come on, you know a person has to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of their sins. You know Peter was right after all.
 
brightfame52 said:
Cornelius was saved by Christ, God ordained for him to walk in good works Eph 2:10

10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
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So Cornelius was saved before Acts chapter 10?
 
Truther said:
So Cornelius was saved before Acts chapter 10?
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Duh Yeah, what you think I been showing you. He was righteous. The righteous are saved. Who is this in the Kingdom ?Matt 13 43

Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
 
Truther said:
Oh, come on, you know a person has to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of their sins. You know Peter was right after all.
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I'll tell you what I know... that you don't know don't know how salvation is received. And that you hold a false belief that water baptism saves you when nothing could be further from the truth. You have it backwards. Come on now you can figure this out, Read and learn...Lookie Lookie:

What must I do to be saved​

  • Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved (Acts 16:31)
  • Receive, in faith, the salvation God offers, fully trusting in Jesus alone as the payment for your sins (Ephesians 2:8-9)
  • Trust in Jesus alone as the payment for your sins, and you will not perish (John 3:16)
  • Accept the gift of salvation offered by God, which is available to all who call on the name of the Lord (Romans 10:13)
  • Believe that Jesus is the way of salvation (John 14:6) and that there is no other name under heaven by which we must be saved (Acts 4:12)
It is not about:
  • Trying to earn salvation through good deeds or works (Ephesians 2:8-9)
  • Following a set of rules or rituals like Baptism(Galatians 3:11-12)
  • Being a good person or trying to be perfect (Romans 3:23)
  • Adding anything to your faith, including good works or sacraments (James 2:24)
It is about:
  • Receiving the gift of salvation, which is available to all who believe in Jesus Christ
  • Trusting in Jesus alone as the payment for your sins
  • Accepting the love and forgiveness of God, which is offered to you through Jesus Christ
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