God's attribute of Justice demands PSA
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Like an angel would dare to say to a one person God you are my son
totally unbelievable. Illustrates the weakness of his position
101G
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notice the Angel of the LORD, not the angel of God.... (smile)... Oh dear, when will they ever LEARN.
do y'all read at all? did 101G say that? see that assumption you made, "Why would Jesus need an angel to carry his voice when Jesus was present?". LOL, LOL, LOL, this is the IGNORANCE 101G speaks of. these questions is ask when one is void of God's knowledge in an ECHAD. the Ordinal Last was standing in the water, the Ordinal First desended as a dove, and a, a, a, a, Voice spoke from Heaven. now read post # 235 again..... ok.
I cannot for belief see how missed or ill informed many are. this is basic bible study. I wonder why angels are called Messengers. it just goes over my head I guess.
101G.
From where? Its not the text
And you imagine an angel of the lLord is going to say to the Lord "you are my son"
saying that ideas is far fetched would be putting it mildly
Again Your one person God is not the son of an angel
101G
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go and find out... (smile), lol, lol, lol, Oh Dear....
did 101G say that? this is why division is in the church today.... assumptions. just as with the baptism of the Lord Jesus. the father's vioce....lol, lol, lol, still haven't produce that scripture yet.....
YIKES!. ...... because it's not in the bible..... Oh my, when will the dead live again.101G.
No answer. Who is the Father of your one person God?go and find out... (smile), lol, lol, lol, Oh Dear....
did 101G say that? this is why division is in the church today.... assumptions. just as with the baptism of the Lord Jesus. the father's vioce....lol, lol, lol, still haven't produce that scripture yet.....
101G.
Who is the I which is well pleased with your one person God and calls him his son.
civic
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the masks of modalism.
which fails as we have son and purported Father simultaneously.the masks of modalism.
101G
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LOL, LOL, LOL, as the Lord Jesus said, "Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known or understood my answers?". ok, let 101G be clear one more time.
U asked, "Who is the Father of your one person God?". Ignorant question, but I'll do Justic to it. #1. God don't have a Father, nor do the Lord Jesus biologically speaking or not....... LOL, LOL, LOL, .. Oh dear. but the Lord Jesus as the ORDINAL FIRST has the Title "Father" as in Source, in the ECHAD, as the H433 אֱלוֹהַּ 'elowahh (el-o'-ah). now do that answer your curiosity?
the I is JESUS the Spirit, the Ordinal First in the ECHAD of the Godhead...... (smile), ...
101G.
101G
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and @civic well lets see, Isaiah 41:4 "Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning? I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I am he." now this, Isaiah 48:12 "Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last."
ok, fellas is this the SAME one PERSON, the First and the Last, yes or No?
101G.
101G
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well maybe this will help you two out some. Revelation 1:10 "I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet," Revelation 1:11 "Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea."
is not the Father the First? yes, and is not the Last the Son? yes. now who said that HE, HE, HE, is the First and the Last? well fellas..... your answer please.
101G.
is not the Father the First? yes, and is not the Last the Son? yes. now who said that HE, HE, HE, is the First and the Last? well fellas..... your answer please.
101G.
so Jesus the son was not in the water and Jesus the spirit was not falling upon him while Jesus the father was in heaven speaking to his son?LOL, LOL, LOL, as the Lord Jesus said, "Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known or understood my answers?". ok, let 101G be clear one more time.
U asked, "Who is the Father of your one person God?". Ignorant question, but I'll do Justic to it. #1. God don't have a Father, nor do the Lord Jesus biologically speaking or not....... LOL, LOL, LOL, .. Oh dear. but the Lord Jesus as the ORDINAL FIRST has the Title "Father" as in Source, in the ECHAD, as the H433 אֱלוֹהַּ 'elowahh (el-o'-ah). now do that answer your curiosity?
the I is JESUS the Spirit, the Ordinal First in the ECHAD of the Godhead...... (smile), ...
101G.
101G
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this shows your IGNORANCE without a dress on. the Ordinal Last was in the Water and the Ordinal First in the form of a dove..... (smile), lol, lol, lol, Good day
101G.
It was the Spirit coming down upon him
Matthew 3:16–17 (KJV 1900) — 16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: 17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
Perhaps you should refrain from calling anyone ignorant as you are clearly in error
and you still have the voice coming down from heaven claiming to be speaking of his son
so we have the person claiming to be speaking of his son
another person, the son
and a third person coming down like a dove.
101G
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Romans 1:13 "Now I would not have you ignorant, brethren, that oftentimes I purposed to come unto you, (but was let hitherto,) that I might have some fruit among you also, even as among other Gentiles."
1 Corinthians 12:1 "Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant."
1 Thessalonians 4:13 "But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope."
is it working? .....????????
101G.
Not well at all
Matthew 3:16–17 (KJV 1900) — 16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: 17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
where we see three persons simultaneously
Below we have two persons God and the word
John 1:1–2 (KJV 1900) — 1 IN the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God.
below have Jesus crying out to the father
Matthew 27:46 (KJV 1900) — 46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
Was there a mode switch again
Was your Jesus just a man now?
John 17:5 (KJV 1900) — 5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
Father and son together in eternity oops simultaneously
The Father loves the Son and has given all things into His hand” (John 3:35).
For the Father loves the Son, and shows Him all things that He Himself is doing; and greaterworks than these will He show Him, so that you will marvel” (John 5:20).
Just as the Father has loved Me, I have also loved you; abide in My love” (John 15:9).“I in them and You in Me, that they may be perfected in unity, so that the world may know thatYou sent Me, and loved them, even as You have loved Me. Father, I desire that they also, whomYou have given Me, be with Me where I am, so that they may see My glory which You havegiven Me, for You loved Me before the foundation of the world” (John 17:23–24).
While he was still speaking, a bright cloud overshadowed them, and behold, a voice out of thecloud said, “This is My beloved Son, with whom I am well-pleased; listen to Him!” (Matthew17:5).
John 5:17 (ESV) — 17 But Jesus answered them, “My Father is working until now, and I am working.”
John 8:49 (ESV) — 49 Jesus answered, “I do not have a demon, but I honor my Father, and you dishonor me.
Matthew 10:32 (ESV) — 32 So everyone who acknowledges me before men, I also will acknowledge before my Father who is in heaven,
Luke 22:29 (ESV) — 29 and I assign to you, as my Father assigned to me, a kingdom,
John 15:8 (ESV) — 8 By this my Father is glorified, that you bear much fruit and so prove to be my disciples.
John 10:29 (ESV) — 29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand.
Father, glorify Your name.” There came then a voice out of heaven: “I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again” (John 12:28).
Jesus spoke these things; and lifting up His eyes to heaven, He said, “Father, the hour has come; glorify Your Son, that the Son may glorify You, even as You gave Him authority over all flesh, that to all whom You have given Him, He may give eternal life. This is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent” (John 17:1–3)
“Father, into your hands I commit My spirit” (Luke 23:46)
“All things have been handed over to Me by My Father; and no one knows the Son except the Father; nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and anyone to whom the Son wills to reveal Him” (Matthew 11:27).
l. In Romans 1:7 we read, “Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.” The same greeting is found in 1 Corinthians 1:3; 2 Corinthians 1:2; Galatians 1:3; Ephesians 1:2; and Philippians 1:2.
John 20:17 "Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God..
Frank Russell
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Romans 3:21–26 (ESV) — 21 But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law, although the Law and the Prophets bear witness to it— 22 the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction: 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, 25 whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God’s righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins. 26 It was to show his righteousness at the present time, so that he might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.
