God requires man to HUMBLE THEMSELVES

God cannot think, talk, have emotions, love or anything else before creation for that would infer a process which would also infer a sequence which would also infer a plan which also would infer time. There could not be any lamb that was slain before the foundation of the world nor any elect before the foundation of the world which implies time.

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I agree except when nothing exists prior to creation.
But you see with that we're in a place where the mind goes TILT.
Prior to the creation of anything when there was only the Father/Son/Holy Spirit.....did they not have any communication between each other? Even that would take a duration we'd call TIME. I don't think you could conceive of them not exchanging thoughts and words to each other right? I don't think God gets caught up in an issue that he was timeless without any sequence of things taking place.
 
But you see with that we're in a place where the mind goes TILT.
Prior to the creation of anything when there was only the Father/Son/Holy Spirit.....did they not have any communication between each other? Even that would take a duration we'd call TIME. I don't think you could conceive of them not exchanging thoughts and words to each other right? I don't think God gets caught up in an issue that he was timeless without any sequence of things taking place.
Sure, but they are one God with no change in essence or character. Time involves change, evolution. God knows neither.
 
duh only you say that

If he is free to create or not create

He cannot know he must create for then he is not free

Your argument is illogical
"He cannot know" Tom denies Gods omniscience and implies God at some point learns and us unaware.

OPEN THEISM
 
But you see with that we're in a place where the mind goes TILT.
Prior to the creation of anything when there was only the Father/Son/Holy Spirit.....did they not have any communication between each other? Even that would take a duration we'd call TIME. I don't think you could conceive of them not exchanging thoughts and words to each other right? I don't think God gets caught up in an issue that he was timeless without any sequence of things taking place.
love could not exist if that were the case and we could not say with any confidence that God is love. Can a relationship exist without thought, sequence, affection, action etc ?
 
You failed to deal with the point

Assuming fatalistic determination is not evidence

Sorry if God had yet to decree to create the future was indeed open

i.e. unsettled

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this occurs when mans theology is placed above Gods word.
 
Sure, but they are one God with no change in essence or character. Time involves change, evolution. God knows neither.
um going from no decree to a decree is a change

Going from no creation to a creation another change

Unfortunately for you a timeless God can experience no change in accidental properties or in relations

That his essence and character do not change all; agree
 
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