God requires man to HUMBLE THEMSELVES

[civic]

Total ABILITY​

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James 4:10​

Humble yourselves before the Lord, and he will exalt you.

1 Peter 5:6​

Humble yourselves, therefore, under the mighty hand of God so that at the proper time he may exalt you,

James 4:6​

But he gives more grace. Therefore it says, “God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble.”

2 Chronicles 7:14​

If my people who are called by my name humble themselves, and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and heal their land.

2 Chronicles 12:12
Because Rehoboam humbled himself, the LORD’s anger turned from him, and he was not totally destroyed. Indeed, there was some good in Judah.

Daniel 10:12​

Then he said to me, “Fear not, Daniel, for from the first day that you set your heart to understand and humbled yourself before your God, your words have been heard, and I have come because of your words.

1 Kings 21:29​

“Have you seen how Ahab has humbled himself before me? Because he has humbled himself before me, I will not bring the disaster in his days; but in his son's days I will bring the disaster upon his house.”

2 Kings 22:19
Because your heart was responsive and you humbled yourself before the LORD when you heard what I have spoken against this place and its people—that they would become a curse and be laid waste—and because you tore your robes and wept in my presence, I also have heard you, declares the LORD.

1 Peter 5:5​

Likewise, you who are younger, be subject to the elders. Clothe yourselves, all of you, with humility toward one another, for “God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble.”

Zephaniah 2:3​

Seek the Lord, all you humble of the land, who do his just commands; seek righteousness; seek humility; perhaps you may be hidden on the day of the anger of the Lord.

Micah 6:8​

He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the Lord require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?

Psalm 25:9​

He leads the humble in what is right, and teaches the humble his way.

Proverbs 11:2​

When pride comes, then comes disgrace, but with the humble is wisdom.

Proverbs 3:34​

Toward the scorners he is scornful, but to the humble he gives favor.

Matthew 23:12​

Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.

How many times must God say something before the calvinist will believe Gods word and commands ?

If a dozen times is not enough let me know and I will provide several more dozens of passages declaring the exact same thing as those above. @Presby02 @The Rogue Tomato @Kermos @atpollard @brightfame52

hope this helps !!!

 

[civic]

Crickets

 

[praise_yeshua]

Crickets

Yep.

Living is an influence upon man humbling themselves. You would think we'd get the "message of humility" once we see so many things in our lives crumble and die around us.

Mankind certainly enjoys it delusion.

I told my wife last night that when we see the train coming.... we'd get off the tracks immediately. Why even take the chance????

That's is not what we do. We wait and wait and wait and wait.

 

[Presby02]

Total ABILITY​

​

James 4:10​

Humble yourselves before the Lord, and he will exalt you.

1 Peter 5:6​

Humble yourselves, therefore, under the mighty hand of God so that at the proper time he may exalt you,

James 4:6​

But he gives more grace. Therefore it says, “God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble.”

2 Chronicles 7:14​

If my people who are called by my name humble themselves, and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and heal their land.

Daniel 10:12​

Then he said to me, “Fear not, Daniel, for from the first day that you set your heart to understand and humbled yourself before your God, your words have been heard, and I have come because of your words.

1 Kings 21:29​

“Have you seen how Ahab has humbled himself before me? Because he has humbled himself before me, I will not bring the disaster in his days; but in his son's days I will bring the disaster upon his house.”

1 Peter 5:5​

Likewise, you who are younger, be subject to the elders. Clothe yourselves, all of you, with humility toward one another, for “God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble.”

Zephaniah 2:3​

Seek the Lord, all you humble of the land, who do his just commands; seek righteousness; seek humility; perhaps you may be hidden on the day of the anger of the Lord.

Micah 6:8​

He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the Lord require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?

Psalm 25:9​

He leads the humble in what is right, and teaches the humble his way.

Proverbs 11:2​

When pride comes, then comes disgrace, but with the humble is wisdom.

Proverbs 3:34​

Toward the scorners he is scornful, but to the humble he gives favor.

Matthew 23:12​

Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.

How many times must God say something before the calvinist will believe Gods word and commands ?

If a dozen times is not enough let me know and I will provide several more dozens of passages declaring the exact same thing as those above. @Presby02 @The Rogue Tomato @Kermos @atpollard @brightfame52

hope this helps !!!

so what. Is it humble yourself and be baptized for the remission of son?

 

[TomL]

so what. Is it humble yourself and be baptized for the remission of son?

so that is something God did not do

2Chr. 12:12 And when he humbled himself the wrath of the LORD turned from him, so as not to make a complete destruction. Moreover, conditions were good in Judah.

2Chr. 32:26 But Hezekiah humbled himself for the pride of his heart, both he and the inhabitants of Jerusalem, so that the wrath of the LORD did not come upon them in the days of Hezekiah.

2Chr. 33:12 And when he was in distress, he entreated the favor of the LORD his God and humbled himself greatly before the God of his fathers.

2Chr. 33:19 And his prayer, and how God was moved by his entreaty, and all his sin and his faithlessness, and the sites on which he built high places and set up the Asherim and the images, before he humbled himself, behold, they are written in the Chronicles of the Seers.

2Chr. 33:23 And he did not humble himself before the LORD, as Manasseh his father had humbled himself, but this Amon incurred guilt more and more.

1Kings 21:29 “Have you seen how Ahab has humbled himself before me? Because he has humbled himself before me, I will not bring the disaster in his days; but in his son’s days I will bring the disaster upon his house.”

2Kings 22:19 because your heart was penitent, and you humbled yourself before the LORD, when you heard how I spoke against this place and against its inhabitants, that they should become a desolation and a curse, and you have torn your clothes and wept before me, I also have heard you, declares the LORD.

2Chr. 34:27 because your heart was tender and you humbled yourself before God when you heard his words against this place and its inhabitants, and you have humbled yourself before me and have torn your clothes and wept before me, I also have heard you, declares the LORD.

Dan. 10:12 Then he said to me, “Fear not, Daniel, for from the first day that you set your heart to understand and humbled yourself before your God, your words have been heard, and I have come because of your words.

 

[Presby02]

so that is something God did not do

2Chr. 12:12 And when he humbled himself the wrath of the LORD turned from him, so as not to make a complete destruction. Moreover, conditions were good in Judah.

2Chr. 32:26 But Hezekiah humbled himself for the pride of his heart, both he and the inhabitants of Jerusalem, so that the wrath of the LORD did not come upon them in the days of Hezekiah.

2Chr. 33:12 And when he was in distress, he entreated the favor of the LORD his God and humbled himself greatly before the God of his fathers.

2Chr. 33:19 And his prayer, and how God was moved by his entreaty, and all his sin and his faithlessness, and the sites on which he built high places and set up the Asherim and the images, before he humbled himself, behold, they are written in the Chronicles of the Seers.

2Chr. 33:23 And he did not humble himself before the LORD, as Manasseh his father had humbled himself, but this Amon incurred guilt more and more.

1Kings 21:29 “Have you seen how Ahab has humbled himself before me? Because he has humbled himself before me, I will not bring the disaster in his days; but in his son’s days I will bring the disaster upon his house.”

2Kings 22:19 because your heart was penitent, and you humbled yourself before the LORD, when you heard how I spoke against this place and against its inhabitants, that they should become a desolation and a curse, and you have torn your clothes and wept before me, I also have heard you, declares the LORD.

2Chr. 34:27 because your heart was tender and you humbled yourself before God when you heard his words against this place and its inhabitants, and you have humbled yourself before me and have torn your clothes and wept before me, I also have heard you, declares the LORD.

Dan. 10:12 Then he said to me, “Fear not, Daniel, for from the first day that you set your heart to understand and humbled yourself before your God, your words have been heard, and I have come because of your words.

Who said He did? And your proof text are addressed to old covenant saints, not unbelievers.

 

[TomL]

Who said He did? And your proof text are addressed to old covenant saints, not unbelievers.

Your theology

Hello

 

[Presby02]

Your theology

Hello

Umm...no it doesn't.

 

[TomL]

Umm...no it doesn't.

Yeah it does

Did forget your theology teaches God has determined all that transpires

 

[Presby02]

Yeah it does

Did forget your theology teaches God has determined all that transpires

Sure does. I could easily say you humble yourself because determined that you do so.

Another great example of proof texting going horribly wrong.

 

[TomL]

Sure does. I could easily say you humble yourself because determined that you do so.

Another great example of proof texting going horribly wrong.

You just flip flopped

First it was who said that followed by a denial

now an affirmation.

and that would have been a case of God humbling them, but nowhere is that written in scripture.

Aside from which your doctrine of total inability would have precluded them humbling themselves

 

[Presby02]

You just flip flopped

First it was who said that followed by a denial

now an affirmation.

and that would have been a case of God humbling them, but nowhere is that written in scripture.

Aside from which your doctrine of total inability would have precluded them humbling themselves

Nope. These were the covenant people of Israel.

Umm...no it don't. Humbling myself would have been determined by God. Just as I believe but my belief was granted to me.

 

[civic]

so that is something God did not do

2Chr. 12:12 And when he humbled himself the wrath of the LORD turned from him, so as not to make a complete destruction. Moreover, conditions were good in Judah.

2Chr. 32:26 But Hezekiah humbled himself for the pride of his heart, both he and the inhabitants of Jerusalem, so that the wrath of the LORD did not come upon them in the days of Hezekiah.

2Chr. 33:12 And when he was in distress, he entreated the favor of the LORD his God and humbled himself greatly before the God of his fathers.

2Chr. 33:19 And his prayer, and how God was moved by his entreaty, and all his sin and his faithlessness, and the sites on which he built high places and set up the Asherim and the images, before he humbled himself, behold, they are written in the Chronicles of the Seers.

2Chr. 33:23 And he did not humble himself before the LORD, as Manasseh his father had humbled himself, but this Amon incurred guilt more and more.

1Kings 21:29 “Have you seen how Ahab has humbled himself before me? Because he has humbled himself before me, I will not bring the disaster in his days; but in his son’s days I will bring the disaster upon his house.”

2Kings 22:19 because your heart was penitent, and you humbled yourself before the LORD, when you heard how I spoke against this place and against its inhabitants, that they should become a desolation and a curse, and you have torn your clothes and wept before me, I also have heard you, declares the LORD.

2Chr. 34:27 because your heart was tender and you humbled yourself before God when you heard his words against this place and its inhabitants, and you have humbled yourself before me and have torn your clothes and wept before me, I also have heard you, declares the LORD.

Dan. 10:12 Then he said to me, “Fear not, Daniel, for from the first day that you set your heart to understand and humbled yourself before your God, your words have been heard, and I have come because of your words.

Yep so much for their tulip lol

 

[TomL]

Yep so much for their tulip lol

Seems we were thinking alike, while you were posting verses about men humbling themselves I had just amassed a bunch of verses about humility and isolated those which spoke of humbling oneself

 

[civic]

Seems we were thinking alike, while you were posting verses about men humbling themselves I had just amassed a bunch of verses about humility and isolated those which spoke of humbling oneself

They teach the opposite of God who says man has total ability. Both believers and unbelievers are required by God to be humble. It's the starting point with God in opposition to pride. I find calvinism to be prideful, a false humility.

 

[TomL]

They teach the opposite of God who says man has total ability. Both believers and unbelievers are required by God to be humble. It's the starting point with God in opposition to pride. I find calvinism to be prideful, a false humility.

Yes we are called to humble ourselves, confess our sin, our own inability to overcome sin and to turn to Christ as our only hope

 

[civic]

Yes we are called to humble ourselves, confess our sin, our own inability to overcome sin and to turn to Christ as our only hope

Amen brother !!!

 

[TomL]

Amen brother !!!

Yet some accused the belief God gives grace to the humble an appeal to merit

 

[The Rogue Tomato]

Total ABILITY​

​

James 4:10​

Humble yourselves before the Lord, and he will exalt you.

1 Peter 5:6​

Humble yourselves, therefore, under the mighty hand of God so that at the proper time he may exalt you,

James 4:6​

But he gives more grace. Therefore it says, “God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble.”

2 Chronicles 7:14​

If my people who are called by my name humble themselves, and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and heal their land.

Daniel 10:12​

Then he said to me, “Fear not, Daniel, for from the first day that you set your heart to understand and humbled yourself before your God, your words have been heard, and I have come because of your words.

1 Kings 21:29​

“Have you seen how Ahab has humbled himself before me? Because he has humbled himself before me, I will not bring the disaster in his days; but in his son's days I will bring the disaster upon his house.”

1 Peter 5:5​

Likewise, you who are younger, be subject to the elders. Clothe yourselves, all of you, with humility toward one another, for “God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble.”

Zephaniah 2:3​

Seek the Lord, all you humble of the land, who do his just commands; seek righteousness; seek humility; perhaps you may be hidden on the day of the anger of the Lord.

Micah 6:8​

He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the Lord require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?

Psalm 25:9​

He leads the humble in what is right, and teaches the humble his way.

Proverbs 11:2​

When pride comes, then comes disgrace, but with the humble is wisdom.

Proverbs 3:34​

Toward the scorners he is scornful, but to the humble he gives favor.

Matthew 23:12​

Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.

How many times must God say something before the calvinist will believe Gods word and commands ?

If a dozen times is not enough let me know and I will provide several more dozens of passages declaring the exact same thing as those above. @Presby02 @The Rogue Tomato @Kermos @atpollard @brightfame52

hope this helps !!!

God requires man to HUMBLE THEMSELVES​

And then the first thing in your post is:

Total ABILITY​

 

[praise_yeshua]

God requires man to HUMBLE THEMSELVES​

And then the first thing in your post is:

Total ABILITY​

False dichotomy and non-sequitur.