God is Love

atpollard said:
(True news story) A group of teens stood and filmed an epileptic boy drowning with their cell phones while taking no action to help him. An attempt was made to prosecute them, but it was dismissed. However depraved their indifference, they had no LEGAL obligation to do anything.

Everyone instinctively knows that having the power to do good and standing by and doing nothing is evil … except God. Is that really the God you worship?
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It's getting worse and worse in this world we live in. Come soon Lord Jesus! Come soon.
 
My love is merciful.

Matthew 5:7
“How blessed you are when you demonstrate tender mercy! For tender mercy will be demonstrated to you.

My tender mercy is woven into everything I am and everything that I do dear child. And I never tire of showing mercy to those whom I love, for My love endures forever. I also want you to know that there are no limits to the forgiveness I have for you. For in Christ, I have once and for all, separated you from your sin as far as the east is from the west.

So when you show mercy to others, it makes Me smile, because you are responding just like I would. For when you give the gift of My compassion to those who don't deserve it, you are revealing the tenderness of My heart to those who desperately need to know they are loved too. And that makes My heart rejoice!

So in every opportunity today My little one, demonstrate My tender mercy to everyone you meet. And as you do, you will discover that My goodness and mercy are following you wherever you go.
 
Hosanna said:
God says, “Do this and you will overcome evil with good: Let love be genuine.” In other words: “Love must be sincere.” It must be authentic! There must be no pretense – no play acting, nothing fake or false. Let your love be the real deal.
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'Hereby perceive we the love of God,
because He laid down His life for us:
and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.
But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have need,
and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him,
how dwelleth the love of God in him?
My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue;
but in deed and in truth.'
(1Jn. 3:16-18)

Hello @Hosanna,

I have not read all of the entries posted in this thread, having only read as far as this entry by you. Yet, I have been so blessed so far, and the Holy Spirit is working within on a personal problem I have to solve, as I read the various input being given.

In regard to your entry quoted above, I thought of the verses (above) from 1 John, for you refer to love needing to be genuine. I have done much soul searching over the years, as to whether the love I personally have sought to express in whatever way, be it in word or deed, is genuine, and the words, 'My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue, but in deed and in truth', have helped to prevent the inward examination, which can so easily degenerate into self flagulation :(, by simply doing the deed in truth, regardless of what 'feelings' motivate it. For feelings are so very fickle, proceeding from the flesh as they do: but the love of God expressed in deed and in truth has nothing to do with feeling, but is simply doing what is needed by the love of God, practically in the manner which is most appropriate at the time. :)

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
 
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dizerner said:
And what about all the people that never got to know about Christ's love?

Am I so selfish that "I got mine," that I don't care if the one who loves me seems absolutely cruel and neglectful to others?

I have to cobble together some "get saved from nature" theology that doesn't really fit Scripture to make myself feel like God is fair to everyone?

If everyone can get "auto-saved" then missionaries are stupid and useless, and make things worse for people.

See... if I take the Bible seriously, I have to admit there are serious "seeming" injustices in it.
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'In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men
by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.'
(Rom 2:16)

Hello @dizerner,

Reading your input, I think of Romans 2, which tells us how God will deal with those who have never heard the gospel of the grace of God, on that day when the Lord will judge the secrets of men's hearts. I leave it with you to determine whether it is an appropriate response on my part or not.

@dizerner:- you said that you have reached your own conclusion concerning the love of God, which differs from that of others, would you please tell me what that conclusion is, that I may understand your line of reasoning.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
 
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'But God commendeth His love toward us,
in that, while we were yet sinners,
Christ died for us.'
(Rom 5:8)

'For He hath made Him to be sin for us, Who knew no sin;
that we might be made the righteousness of God in Him.'
(2Cor. 5:21)

* That indeed is love!
 
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'Hereby perceive we the love of God,
because He laid down His life for us:
and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.
But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have need,
and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him,
how dwelleth the love of God in him?
My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue;
but in deed and in truth.'
(1Jn. 3:16-18)

Hello @Hosanna,

I have not read all of the entries posted in this thread, having only read as far as this entry by you. Yet, I have been so blessed so far, and the Holy Spirit is working within on a personal problem I have to solve, as I read the various input being given.

In regard to your entry quoted above, I thought of the verses (above) from 1 John, for you refer to love needing to be genuine. I have done much soul searching over the years, as to whether the love I personally have sought to express in whatever way, be it in word or deed, is genuine, and the words, 'My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue, but in deed and in truth', have helped to prevent the inward examination, which can so easily degenerate into self flagulation :(, by simply doing the deed in truth, regardless of what 'feelings' motivate it. For feelings are so very fickle, proceeding from the flesh as they do: but the love of God expressed in deed and in truth has nothing to do with feeling, but is simply doing what is needed by the love of God, practically in the manner which is most appropriate at the time. :)

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
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I know exactly where you're talking about. For a few of us here this is our favorite topic and hopefully we'll be able to discuss this more in depth as time goes by. I've always been taught and found out during my lifetime didn't definitely can't go by your feelings as you pointed out they do change, "fickle", and can't trust them. One of my favorite Christian authors says about this topic that sometimes you have to fake it till you make it. That goes along with your comment
by simply doing the deed in truth, regardless of what 'feelings' motivate it.
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My love is approving.

Matthew 3:16-17
16 And as Jesus rose up out of the water, the heavenly realm opened up over him and he saw the Holy Spirit descend out of the heavens and rest upon him in the form of a dove. 17 Then suddenly the voice of the Father shouted from the sky, saying, “This is my Son—the Beloved! My greatest delight is in him.” TPT

I was so delighted with My Son, Jesus at His baptism, that I tore the windows of heaven open and I declared My great love for Him for all to hear. Of course He had always known this to be true, but in My heart, I wanted the whole world to know it too.

And it was from this place of My approving, affirming love, before Jesus did even one miracle, that He was launched into His destiny. And so it is with you dear child. My love for you is from everlasting to everlasting and is not conditional on your performance... past, present or future. And as Jesus lived under an open heaven of My delight, so do you.

For I have already sealed you with the ultimate token of My love, My precious Holy Spirit. And His presence, forever joined with you, is the down payment of your eternal inheritance and a constant reminder that you truly are My child and heir. So whatever you do today, know that the blessing of My approving love will launch you into your destiny.

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365 ways we are loved by God.
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My love is unceasing.

Psalm 107:1
Give thanks to the Lord, for he is good! His faithful love endures forever. NLT

I love you as much today as I loved you before I created the world and I will continue to love you with all My heart throughout eternity. For My love is the very substance of My being and the essence of all that is good and noble in My Kingdom.

If you would just dare to believe that to be true today, all fear of being rejected would cease. And all fear of being judged and condemned would lose its mooring in your soul because you would know that you are eternally loved and accepted by the One who is love.

So open up your heart today for a fresh outpouring of My unceasing delight and acceptance over your life dear child, and watch as My perfect love drives out everything that makes you feel afraid and insecure.
 
Hosanna said:
“Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. Love never fails” (1 Corinthians 13:4-8a). This is God’s description of love, and because God is love (1 John 4:8), this is what He is like.

I will never forget the hour when I first discovered that God was really good. It had never dawned on me that it meant He was actually and practically good, with the same kind of goodness He has commanded us to have. The expression “the goodness of God” had seemed to me nothing more than a sort of heavenly statement, which I could not be expected to understand. Then one day in my reading of the Bible I came across the words “O taste and see that the Lord is good” and suddenly they meant something. What does it mean to be good?

To be good is to do the best we know. I saw that since God has total knowledge He must know what is the best and highest good of all; therefore, His goodness must necessarily be beyond question.

I can never express what this meant to me. I had such a view of the actual goodness of God that I saw nothing could possibly go wrong under His care, and it seemed to me that no one could ever be anxious again. Over and over, when appearances have been against Him, and when I have been tempted to question whether He had been unkind or neglectful or indifferent, I have been brought up short by the words “the Lord is good.” I have seen that it was simply unthinkable that a God who was good could have done the bad things I had imagined.
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Jesus showed all what Gods love will do for all creation, when God sent him to the earth. He showed us Gods loving side. Jesus is Gods image( Coll 1:15) But we as well see Gods wrath-Noahs day, Sodom and Gommorah, etc. Few realize that Here at Rev 19:11, Jesus will as well show that wrath to the wicked. Dan 2:44 and Rev-19:18 is the result= about 99% minimum on this earth. Jesus compared these last days to Noahs day( 99.9% mislead)Luke 17:26)--This is why its like that-2Cor 4:4, 2 Cor 11:12-15
 
My love is your inheritance.

Ephesians 1:17-18
17 I pray that the Father of glory, the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, would impart to you the riches of the Spirit of wisdom and the Spirit of revelation to know him through your deepening intimacy with him. 18 I pray that the light of God will illuminate the eyes of your imagination, flooding you with light, until you experience the full revelation of the hope of his calling —that is, the wealth of God’s glorious inheritances that he finds in us, his holy ones! TPT

My dear child, I want you to go deeper today into the earth shaking implications of your birthright than you have ever explored before. For in doing so, you will experience a continuing expansion of Kingdom revelation that will help you grasp what it actually means to be My beloved heir.

For you are not a servant or a slave trying to earn your way into My good graces, but through your new birth, you are already My precious heir. And you are also a co-heir with Jesus in all that He is and all that He possesses in My immeasurable Kingdom.

So stop trying to be good enough in your own works today little one, for that hamster wheel of performance will never have an end. All I want you to do is simply rest in the unshakable inheritance that My love has already imparted to you in Christ. If you would simply open up your heart to the wonder and awe that is already yours today, you will experience a greater impartation of My glory than you have ever known before.
 
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dizerner said:
Of course.

I explain it here:

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@dizerner said in the post referenced :-
So the key to understanding God's love, is to equally emphasize his holiness, and understand that both of the attributes contribute and modify each other's expression in very great ways. A "holy love" is a different kind of love, that does not make the well-being of creatures the one paramount, supreme value and ethic that all other things must be sacrificed for, as that would be idolatry and take God's place.
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Hello @dizerner,

I understand your reasoning now, thank you.

So it is not that you deny the words of 1 John 4:8 &16 which state that 'God is love', but you question man's perception of it, yes? On the basis of how it is manifested. While looking up the verses in 1 John, I read through the chapter they were found in, the context in which they came, and saw the following:-

'In this was manifested the love of God toward us,
because that God sent His only begotten Son into the world,
that we might live through Him.
Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us,
and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins.'
(1Jn 4:9-10)

I don't feel able to comment further on the love of God, for, as you say, I am not equipped for it in the flesh, beyond acknowledging what is written. My understanding would inevitably be flawed, because I would be applying my own reasoning. So I will leave it in the hands of someone who walked the earth with His Son, the Lord Jesus Christ, who saw and heard Him, and who handled Him, namely - John . Who heard Him say:-, ' ... he that hath seen Me hath seen the Father'

'Greater love hath no man than this,
that a man lay down his life for his friends.'
(Joh 15:13)

Praise God!

In Christ Jesus
Chris
 
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'Greater love hath no man than this,
that a man lay down his life for his friends.'
(Joh 15:13)
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It's warm and feel good sounding.

Wouldn't it be even greater love to lay it down for one's enemies?

For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? (Matt. 5:46 NKJ)

And just because a man dies for someone, does that really mean they love them?

and though I give my body to be burned, but have not love, it profits me nothing. (1 Cor. 13:3 NKJ)


I am not trying to take away or minimize the love of God—but it's still incomprehensible and in a way that naturally offends me.


I want to ask:

1. If God created a person somewhere who never even had one chance to be saved, would you call it love?

2. If God created you without the chance to be saved, would you call it love?

3. If God never gave someone a chance to be saved, would you still worship him?


It's a tough question, honestly.

And shows up our priorities.
 
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dizerner said:
It's warm and feel good sounding.

Wouldn't it be even greater love to lay it down for one's enemies?

For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? (Matt. 5:46 NKJ)

And just because a man dies for someone, does that really mean they love them?

and though I give my body to be burned, but have not love, it profits me nothing. (1 Cor. 13:3 NKJ)


I am not trying to take away or minimize the love of God—but it's still incomprehensible and in a way that naturally offends me.
I want to ask:

1. If God created a person somewhere who never even had one chance to be saved, would you call it love?

2. If God created you without the chance to be saved, would you call it love?

3. If God never gave someone a chance to be saved, would you still worship him?


It's a tough question, honestly.

And shows up our priorities.
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'But God commendeth His love toward us,
in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.'
(Rom 5:8)

'For if, when we were enemies,
we were reconciled to God
by the death of his Son,
much more, being reconciled,
we shall be saved by His life.'
(Rom 5:10)

dizerner said:-
1. If God created a person somewhere who never even had one chance to be saved, would you call it love?
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Hi @dizerner,

Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God, so for someone not to be considered to have a chance of salvation, they would need not to have heard the gospel of the grace of God. Yet we are told in Roman's chapter two, that God will judge such according to the secrets of their hearts, and according to their works.

The witness as to the existence of God is all around us in the works of creation (Rom.2), so man is without excuse as regards believing that there is a God, and we are told in Scripture that if we seek after Him we will find Him (Hebrews 11:6). If that desire to seek after God, and to live in a manner which glorifies Him is the motivation for anyone, regardless of whether they have heard the gospel of the grace of God or not, they will have the hope of life on that day when that scrutiny of men's hearts takes place (Rom. 2). For God knows how a person would have responded to the gospel, had they heard. So no man is without hope, except those who have heard and yet have refused to believe the word of God in relation to His Only Begotten Son.

So yes, God IS Love. This is not a mere attribute, a quality, but He IS LOVE. It is what He is. He IS also LIGHT.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
 
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My love placed eternity in your heart.

Ecclesiastes 3:11
Yet God has made everything beautiful for its own time. He has planted eternity in the human heart, but even so, people cannot see the whole scope of God’s work from beginning to end.

You were created for eternity My beloved, for I have planted it deep within your heart before you were even conceived. And it is in this holy place, in the very core of your being, where you will discover that My everlasting love abides.

While your mind can lead you to this place of discovery, the only place you will experience My eternal affection for you is in your heart. For My Spirit is not poured out in your intellect, but in the deep recesses of your inner being.

So today dear child, simply ask My Holy Spirit to reconnect you to the beautiful tabernacle of love that dwells within your heart. For in this serene sanctuary of the center of who you truly are, you already know that I have always loved you.
 
dizerner said:
It's warm and feel good sounding.

Wouldn't it be even greater love to lay it down for one's enemies?

For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? (Matt. 5:46 NKJ)

And just because a man dies for someone, does that really mean they love them?

and though I give my body to be burned, but have not love, it profits me nothing. (1 Cor. 13:3 NKJ)


I am not trying to take away or minimize the love of God—but it's still incomprehensible and in a way that naturally offends me.


I want to ask:

1. If God created a person somewhere who never even had one chance to be saved, would you call it love?

2. If God created you without the chance to be saved, would you call it love?

3. If God never gave someone a chance to be saved, would you still worship him?


It's a tough question, honestly.

And shows up our priorities.
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Aren't sinners evil ?

Romans 5:6
For at just the right time, while we were still powerless, Christ died for the ungodly.

Romans 5:8-
But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

Romans 5:10
For if, when we were enemies of God, we were reconciled to Him through the death of His Son, how much more, having been reconciled, shall we be saved through His life!

Ephesians 2
Like the rest, we were by nature deserving of wrath. 4 But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, 5 made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions
 

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