Freed from : Calvinism-TULIP-5 points Hyper-Calvinism

[Presby02]

You come here to kid around?

About God's word?


Ephesians 5:4
4 and there must be no filthiness and silly talk, or coarse jesting, which are not fitting, but rather giving of thanks.

I answered your question. You should try it.

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

Now it's 20 questions time because your thesis has been debunked.

Your a giant in your own dreamworld.

You can;t answer. because you know if you did, it would dubunk yours.

 

[Presby02]

Your a giant in your own dreamworld.

You can;t answer. because you know if you did, it would dubunk yours.

Whatever helps you cope.

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

Define fatalism. Still waiting......

No

because I have answered. so your being untrithful

Is Christ a victim of fatalism in Acts 4:27,28? Missed your answer

How could jesus be a fatalist when he freely chose to do what God asked him to do?

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

Cul-de-sac--this is getting nowhere and not edifying.

J.

troll alert

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

Yes, of course, keeping the law is optional. Any law not optional is not really a law. It is simply a ruse in order to inflict harm.

or it is a law put in so that the guilty can be charged.

where there is no law. there was no sin.

 

[Presby02]

No

because I have answered. so your being untrithful


How could jesus be a fatalist when he freely chose to do what God asked him to do?

No you did not.

Who said Jesus was a fatalist? LOL Read Acts 4:27,28. Was Christ a victim of fatalism?

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

Yes, but 1 Corinthians 3:14-15 and 2 Corinthians 5:6-10 are discussing two different things entirely. 1 Corinthians 3:14-15 is a discussion of the final destiny.

The "work" being discussed there is the work in bringing another to Christ. In evangelizing, you will be rewarded for those who do come to Christ; but you will not be punished for those who don't.

. 14 If anyone’s work which he has built on it endures, he will receive a reward. 15 if anyone’s work is burned, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire.

salvation of anyone is not in context here.

its bearing fruit..

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

you seem to think or imply at the Judgment Seat of Christ its only about evangelism. That premise of yours ten went into the foundation and that there is much more to the foundation than evangelism. The works we are judged for are not only about evangelism. I pointed out evangelism was not even in the text. And now we went down this rabbit hole. There is more to the foundation than evangelism. Christ is the foundation which includes all His teachings and that of the Apostles who laid the foundation for the church and its doctrines concerning Christ.

amen

its bearing fruit..

bearing fruit is not about evangalism, although it may be part.. it is not all

anytime you do a good deed in christ. you bear fruit

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

Whatever helps you cope.

I do not need help

and you certainly are not offering me anything. But your pride.. which I will be honest. Stinks..

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

No you did not.

Who said Jesus was a fatalist? LOL Read Acts 4:27,28. Was Christ a victim of fatalism?

I answered both of these questions.

Dude, You want to be a troll. I will treat you as one

You want to discuss the word of God. lets continue

I will not give head to a proud person who thinks they are it.

 

[Presby02]

I answered both of these questions.

Dude, You want to be a troll. I will treat you as one

You want to discuss the word of God. lets continue

I will not give head to a proud person who thinks they are it.

Define fatalism. Shall I do it for you?

 

[Jim]

or it is a law put in so that the guilty can be charged.

where there is no law. there was no sin.

And where do you think there is no law?

Remember what Paul said,

Rom 2:13 For it is not the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but the doers of the law who will be justified. 14 For when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law.

Therefore there was always law even if there wasn't the law of Moses. So again, where do you think there was/is no law? I can answer that for you if you would like.

 

[Jim]

. 14 If anyone’s work which he has built on it endures, he will receive a reward. 15 if anyone’s work is burned, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire.

salvation of anyone is not in context here.

its bearing fruit..

The fruit is the bringing one to Christ.

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

And where do you think there is no law?

Remember what Paul said,

Rom 2:13 For it is not the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but the doers of the law who will be justified. 14 For when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law.

Therefore there was always law even if there wasn't the law of Moses. So again, where do you think there was/is no law? I can answer that for you if you would like.

So let’s throw gal 3 out

Gal 2 does not tell us how we got saved it tells us what the saved do

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

The fruit is the bringing one to Christ.

That’s 1 fruit. If I serve a brother I bear fruit

 

[GodsGrace]

or it is a law put in so that the guilty can be charged.

where there is no law. there was no sin.

EG....God doesn't need an excuse to charge us.
We're BORN lost.

The idea is to get saved.
No excuse needed by God.
John 6:18
18 "He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

 

[civic]

That’s 1 fruit. If I serve a brother I bear fruit

Yes all the one another’s in the NT are fruit. Building up one another and putting on Christ, the new man. Living in the spirit , being filled with the spirit etc… loving others and many other things too

 

[Jim]

So let’s throw gal 3 out

Gal 2 does not tell us how we got saved it tells us what the saved do

What has that got to do with my question? So I will ask again:

And where do you think there was/ is no law?

Remember what Paul said,

Rom 2:13 For it is not the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but the doers of the law who will be justified. 14 For when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law.

Therefore there was always law even if there wasn't the law of Moses. So again, where do you think there was/is no law? I can answer that for you if you would like.

 

[Presby02]

I do not need help

and you certainly are not offering me anything. But your pride.. which I will be honest. Stinks..

Now your going to be honest. LOL