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Is Christ a victim of fatalism in Acts 4:27,28? Missed your answer
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Is Christ a victim of fatalism in Acts 4:27,28? Missed your answer
So keeping the whole law perfectly was a option then?
No? Your law free? The 10 commandments are no longer applicable?
Christ said to keep the commandments to enter into eternal life. Can you do that?
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Yup, in Christ absolutely.
Johann
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Your question has no bearing on what I asked--why would YHWH give Imperatives and according to your theology NO one can respond?
J.
So I am required to answer your questions and you can ignore mine? That's not how it's going to work.
Johann
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It's a valid question. It's how conversations work.
To demonstrate your inability and the need for Christ. Now, was keeping the law optional?
Yes, of course, keeping the law is optional. Any law not optional is not really a law. It is simply a ruse in order to inflict harm.
Johann
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Correct.
1Co 3:14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
1Co 3:15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
J.
civic
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Amen. Pauls parallel passage in his 2nd letter to the same group.
2 Corinthians 5:6-10
Therefore we are always confident and know that as long as we are at home in the body we are away from the Lord. 7 For we live by faith, not by sight. 8 We are confident, I say, and would prefer to be away from the body and at home with the Lord. 9 So we make it our goal to please him, whether we are at home in the body or away from it. 10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each of us may receive what is due us for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad.
The judgment established at the judgment seat of Christ does not set the final disposition of heaven or hell. That is determined for each individual during the life on this physical earth before the second coming of Christ. It would seem that the judgment seat of Christ is establishing that in both heaven and hell there will be a range of reward in heaven and a range of punishment in hell.
On the other hand, 1 Corinthians 3:14-15 is indeed about the conditions of salvation, i.e., the determination of salvation or condemnation.
Yes, but 1 Corinthians 3:14-15 and 2 Corinthians 5:6-10 are discussing two different things entirely. 1 Corinthians 3:14-15 is a discussion of the final destiny.
The "work" being discussed there is the work in bringing another to Christ. In evangelizing, you will be rewarded for those who do come to Christ; but you will not be punished for those who don't.
civic
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Well to be completely honest with the text it doesn't say anything about evangelism or leading another to Christ. Could that be included when we stand before Him ? yes but the text doesn't say that fwiw.
remember some plant, others water, some cultivate while others reap the harvest. all play an important part.
What do you think the foundation is and what is the building being built on that foundation except the church?
civic
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The foundation is multi-faceted and centered upon the Person and work of Christ. There are numerous foundation passages that explain the above that are mentioned below.
Expositor's Greek Testament
1 Corinthians 3:11 is a parenthetical comment on θεμέλιον: As to the foundation, that is settled; the workman has to build upon it, not to shift it, nor add to it.—θεμέλιον γὰρ ἄλλον οὐδεὶς δύναται θεῖναι παρὰ κ.τ.λ.: “For another foundation none can lay, beside (other than παρά, possibly suggesting also in competition with; or contrary to) that which is laid down, which is JESUS CHRIST;” other builders there are beside the architect, but no other ground for them to build upon.—κεῖμαι serves as pf. pass, to τίθημι (Php 1:16, etc.), connoting fixity of situation (positum est), and so of destination, as in Luke 2:34. The work of the Apostolic founders is done, once and for ever; so long as the Church lasts, men will build on what they laid down.—θεμέλιον, here masc. (read as adj[542], sc. λίθον), as in 2 Timothy 2:19, Hebrews 11:10, Revelation 21:14; Revelation 21:19, and sometimes in LXX; neut. in Acts 16:26, as in the κοινή, and commonly in LXX.—ὅς ἐστιν—continuative, rather than definitive (as in 1 Corinthians 3:5): “There is but one foundation, and it is Jesus Christ”; cf. 1 Corinthians 2:2. 1 Corinthians 15:1-11, etc.—Ἰησοῦς Χριστός, (not Χ. Ἰ., nor ὁ Χ.), the actual historical person, not any doctrine or argument about Him—“Jesus” revealed and known as “Christ”: see Acts 2:22; Acts 2:36; Acts 17:3, etc., for the formation of the name; and for this, with Paul the rarer, order, cf. 1 Corinthians 2:2, Romans 5:15; Romans 16:25, etc.,—also Hebrews 13:8; in each instance Jesus Christ connotes the recognised facts as to His life, death, etc. (cf. note on 1 Corinthians 1:2).
The saints are the "bricks" built upon the foundation (v.9). The foundation is not multi-facited. It is Jesus Christ.
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