Ephesians 2:8 “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:” with a dollop of "free will".

[atpollard]

Not at all. He can allow free will and still accomplish what he wants in the end.

The Leighton quote says that God "does not accomplish what he wants".

Yes, repentance is granted, but “granted” does not mean “to effectually cause.” Therefore, this passage does not mean repentance is effectual or irresistibly granted to a relatively small number of people mysteriously chosen for unknown reasons before the world began.

As you have so often told us ... "The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance." - 2 Peter 3:9 [NKJV] "And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me." - John 12:32 [KJV] ... "ALL MEN" is the will of God and Leighton assures us that God may grant, but "not effectively cause".

 

[TomL]

The Leighton quote says that God "does not accomplish what he wants".



As you have so often told us ... "The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance." - 2 Peter 3:9 [NKJV] "And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me." - John 12:32 [KJV] ... "ALL MEN" is the will of God and Leighton assures us that God may grant, but "not effectively cause".

You are not going to tell me

That God himself works against that which he wills, are you?

And determines it will not come to pass?

BTW why is God long-suffering if this is all about what he will do?
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But then that is the effect of your theology.

 

[DavidTree]

this is the calvinist view.

Why or how does God chose. what was his will or purpose?

That’s what a Calvinist would say…so whether you call yourself that or not, your beliefs are identical.

Doug

The Holy Scriptures declare no such thing.

You may not be a Calvinist, and I accept that you are not. However, you are buying into one of the Calvinist generated fallacies.

Everyone, please trust the TRUTH = Thy Word is TRUTH"

TRUTH Exhibit A - James 1:18
Of His own will He brought us forth by the word of truth, that we might be a kind of firstfruits of His creatures.

 

[brightfame52]

Yet again ignoring scripture and sellective acceptance of it is a tactic you employ



Now nothing at all is stated about God irresistibly causing this based on an uncondition election from before the start of the world

Acts 3:26 (KJV 1900) — 26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.

Nor is it stated when they are turned away from their iniquities.

You are simply assuming your theology, reading it into the text while ignoring all texts that are contrary to your theology.

Jesus gives conversion when He saves Acts 3:26

26Unto yo u first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.
That turning away is conversion and its the same word Paul used here in Rom 11:26
And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

As you can see its a salvation turning, Jesus is the deliverer in Acts 3:26

 

[TomL]

Jesus gives conversion when He saves Acts 3:26

26Unto yo u first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.
That turning away is conversion and its the same word Paul used here in Rom 11:26
And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

As you can see its a salvation turning, Jesus is the deliverer in Acts 3:26

You totally miss the point. They were to be turned away by regeneration after having believed.

Acts 2:37–38 (LEB) — 37 Now when they heard this, they were pierced to the heart and said to Peter and the other apostles, “What should we do, men and brothers?” 38 And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized, each one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

They were to repent of their betrayal of Christ and be baptized in his name for the forgiveness of their sins and the nature changing gift of the Spirit.

 

[brightfame52]

You totally miss the point. They were to be turned away by regeneration after having believed.

Acts 2:37–38 (LEB) — 37 Now when they heard this, they were pierced to the heart and said to Peter and the other apostles, “What should we do, men and brothers?” 38 And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized, each one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

They were to repent of their betrayal of Christ and be baptized in his name for the forgiveness of their sins and the nature changing gift of the Spirit.

Evidence of salvation

 

[TomL]

Evidence of salvation

You ran from even a single verse

You totally miss the point. They were to be turned away by regeneration after having believed.

Acts 2:37–38 (LEB) — 37 Now when they heard this, they were pierced to the heart and said to Peter and the other apostles, “What should we do, men and brothers?” 38 And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized, each one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

They were to repent of their betrayal of Christ and be baptized in his name for the forgiveness of their sins and the nature changing gift of the Spirit.

See what I mean, Civic, my friend?

 

[TibiasDad]

Jesus gives conversion when He saves Acts 3:26

26Unto yo u first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.
That turning away is conversion and its the same word Paul used here in Rom 11:26
And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

As you can see its a salvation turning, Jesus is the deliverer in Acts 3:26

If they were already turned away from their iniquities, then why did Peter need to preach to them about turning from their sins and believing in Jesus?

Doug