Do you love the truth?

[Dizerner]

D,,,,what is it about Jesus you don't like?

The fact that he tortures people for all eternity for just one sin of being less than absolutely perfect.

The fact that he turned over millions and millions of people to child abuse, tumors, ebola, the sin nature constantly creating wars and slaughtering millions upon millions in genocides, endless pain and suffering in humanity, the denial of the Gospel to millions and even billions of people who never got to hear the good news, all because one person decided to just be flippant one day.

How do you love a person you don't like?

Love is a choice, not a feeling, an act of obedience and commitment.

Also, love is a gift of grace, and a regeneration of the heart—a new creation, something we cannot do on our own.

By the grace of God I can love the holiness of God, and I do, but my soulish nature just never will completely in this life.

I've never heard this before.

Well, I really don't mean to be rude, but your walk with God must be very shallow if this is true.

Also your image of yourself could not be very deep or honest.

But God is merciful, and a lot of his "kids" are just there.

 

[Dizerner]

It’s called the righteousness according to faith.

That's the OPPOSITE of self-righteousness.

Just for the record.

 

[TOTHALORDBEALLGLORY]

The fact that he tortures people for all eternity for just one sin of being less than absolutely perfect.

The fact that he turned over millions and millions of people to child abuse, tumors, ebola, the sin nature constantly creating wars and slaughtering millions upon millions in genocides, endless pain and suffering in humanity, the denial of the Gospel to millions and even billions of people who never got to hear the good news, all because one person decided to just be flippant one day.



Love is a choice, not a feeling, an act of obedience and commitment.

Also, love is a gift of grace, and a regeneration of the heart—a new creation, something we cannot do on our own.

By the grace of God I can love the holiness of God, and I do, but my soulish nature just never will completely in this life.



Well, I really don't mean to be rude, but your walk with God must be very shallow if this is true.

Also your image of yourself could not be very deep or honest.

But God is merciful, and a lot of his "kids" are just there.

Man and woman did exactly what GOD said not to do . They ate of the tree
The fault is on man . And all have sinned . Blaming GOD only stokes fire to the torment one shall
recieve for denying HIS CHRIST .
I bet if you were drowning and sinking in quick sand and i showed up with a rope
and said HEY you have to GRAB ahold of this so i can pull you out
YOU WOULD not sit there and gripe at me about WHY YOU HAVE TO GRAB hold of that rope .
YET MANY rather than taking the free gift of GOD , CHRIST JESUS , would rather drown in their sins .
THE FAULT lies completely on man . THE SAVING , THAT COMES FROM GOD FROM CHRIST .
You forget something . GOD IS LONGSUFFERING .
so while it is true man does much much evil in this world and wicked things are done .
THE LONGSUFFERING OF GOD is due to HE desires NOT the death of the wicked
but rather they repent , COME TO CHRIST .
ETERNAL DAMNATION IS REAL . ETERNAL LIFE IS REAL . people better
save themselves from this untoward generation by coming to CHRIST FAST .
Rather than trying to air condition damnation
LETS RATHER POINT TO THE DIRE NEED TO BELIEVE ON CHRIST . Cause sheep WONT be damned .

 

[Dizerner]

I bet if you were drowning and sinking in quick sand and i showed up with a rope
and said HEY you have to GRAB ahold of this so i can pull you out
YOU WOULD not sit there and gripe at me about WHY YOU HAVE TO GRAB hold of that rope .

If the person had a hundred ropes and refused to save anyone else, I might consider they are not really a good person to only offer help to some and not others. Also, if the person was the one who made the quicksand to begin with, and set it up in such a way that he knew I would fall without my choice, then he would be saving me from his own disaster he created in a sense. I may very well object to being saved by such a person under conditions that seem unfair to me. Now I could be selfish and not care about anyone else, and that is one way to resolve the problem, but that's still not going to make me like a person who creates quicksand just to let people drown in it. Ideally—the reason we should be saved is for God's sake and not our own sake. Fundamentally, you are going to have to get to a place where you realize you cannot justify God by your own standard in every case, and you must put God above what you personally think is right, as an act of worship and submission—and that is not a thing any human being does naturally on their own.

 

[TOTHALORDBEALLGLORY]

If the person had a hundred ropes and refused to save anyone else, I might consider they are not really a good person to only offer help to some and not others. Also, if the person was the one who made the quicksand to begin with, and set it up in such a way that he knew I would fall without my choice, then he would be saving me from his own disaster he created in a sense. I may very well object to being saved by such a person under conditions that seem unfair to me. Now I could be selfish and not care about anyone else, and that is one way to resolve the problem, but that's still not going to make me like a person who creates quicksand just to let people drown in it. Ideally—the reason we should be saved is for God's sake and not our own sake. Fundamentally, you are going to have to get to a place where you realize you cannot justify God by your own standard in every case, and you must put God above what you personally think is right, as an act of worship and submission—and that not a thing any human being does naturally on their own.

that is what happens when men sit under and or sat under calvin or his pre destination .
But many forget to read the end
of revelation
WHO SO EVER WILL , LET HIM COME and drink of the water of life freely .
THE POT cant blame GOD .
The reason men reject CHRIST
the reason many create another version or image of Christ
THEY LOVE THEIR SIN . MEN loved the darkness and wont come to the LIGHT
lest their evil deeds be exposed .
MANY have sat under men in churches and they have been taught by carnal minds of men
that often twisted things and tried to put GOD into a carnal intellectual box that men can then
reason as they please unto what version of HIM they desire to come to and to sit under .
THAT HAS BEEN the problem .
ME , i keep it real simple . WHO so ever beleives WILL BE SAVED , who so ever rejects shall be damned .
Thus JESUS is gonna be preached on my watch . The things many often sit under
have tried to grasp hold onto things far too high for their carnal minds and thus them minds
TWIST IT ALL unto their own destruction .
BUT ME , by grace I DO KNOW WHO SAVES and I DO KNOW ONE MUST BELIEVE
so guess what i am and who i am gonna preach .
JESUS CHRIST and HIM CRUCIFIED . cause i KNOW HE SAVES . THAT I DO KNOW
and i know ITS SUPER DEADLY to reject HIM and damnation awaits all who did . PRETTY SIMPLE .

 

[civic]

The fact that he tortures people for all eternity for just one sin of being less than absolutely perfect.

The fact that he turned over millions and millions of people to child abuse, tumors, ebola, the sin nature constantly creating wars and slaughtering millions upon millions in genocides, endless pain and suffering in humanity, the denial of the Gospel to millions and even billions of people who never got to hear the good news, all because one person decided to just be flippant one day.



Love is a choice, not a feeling, an act of obedience and commitment.

Also, love is a gift of grace, and a regeneration of the heart—a new creation, something we cannot do on our own.

By the grace of God I can love the holiness of God, and I do, but my soulish nature just never will completely in this life.



Well, I really don't mean to be rude, but your walk with God must be very shallow if this is true.

Also your image of yourself could not be very deep or honest.

But God is merciful, and a lot of his "kids" are just there.

A false view of Jesus blaming Him who is holy for sin

 

[101G]

Jesus is the Son.

The Father is God.

The Holy Spirit is God.


These three are one.


For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one. 1 John 5:7

GINOLJC, to all,
first thanks for the reply, second, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are titles of one Person. as the scripture states "THESE" three, and NOT "THEY" are three. they would indicate PERSONS, the term " THESE" indicate titles.... and titles are not persons.

got it now?

 

[Marvelloustime]

that is what happens when men sit under and or sat under calvin or his pre destination .
But many forget to read the end
of revelation
WHO SO EVER WILL , LET HIM COME and drink of the water of life freely .
THE POT cant blame GOD .
The reason men reject CHRIST
the reason many create another version or image of Christ
THEY LOVE THEIR SIN . MEN loved the darkness and wont come to the LIGHT
lest their evil deeds be exposed .
MANY have sat under men in churches and they have been taught by carnal minds of men
that often twisted things and tried to put GOD into a carnal intellectual box that men can then
reason as they please unto what version of HIM they desire to come to and to sit under .
THAT HAS BEEN the problem .
ME , i keep it real simple . WHO so ever beleives WILL BE SAVED , who so ever rejects shall be damned .
Thus JESUS is gonna be preached on my watch . The things many often sit under
have tried to grasp hold onto things far too high for their carnal minds and thus them minds
TWIST IT ALL unto their own destruction .
BUT ME , by grace I DO KNOW WHO SAVES and I DO KNOW ONE MUST BELIEVE
so guess what i am and who i am gonna preach .
JESUS CHRIST and HIM CRUCIFIED . cause i KNOW HE SAVES . THAT I DO KNOW
and i know ITS SUPER DEADLY to reject HIM and damnation awaits all who did . PRETTY SIMPLE .

@TOTHALORDBEALLGLORY

 

[Marvelloustime]

Man and woman did exactly what GOD said not to do . They ate of the tree
The fault is on man . And all have sinned . Blaming GOD only stokes fire to the torment one shall
recieve for denying HIS CHRIST .
I bet if you were drowning and sinking in quick sand and i showed up with a rope
and said HEY you have to GRAB ahold of this so i can pull you out
YOU WOULD not sit there and gripe at me about WHY YOU HAVE TO GRAB hold of that rope .
YET MANY rather than taking the free gift of GOD , CHRIST JESUS , would rather drown in their sins .
THE FAULT lies completely on man . THE SAVING , THAT COMES FROM GOD FROM CHRIST .
You forget something . GOD IS LONGSUFFERING .
so while it is true man does much much evil in this world and wicked things are done .
THE LONGSUFFERING OF GOD is due to HE desires NOT the death of the wicked
but rather they repent , COME TO CHRIST .
ETERNAL DAMNATION IS REAL . ETERNAL LIFE IS REAL . people better
save themselves from this untoward generation by coming to CHRIST FAST .
Rather than trying to air condition damnation
LETS RATHER POINT TO THE DIRE NEED TO BELIEVE ON CHRIST . Cause sheep WONT be damned .

@TOTHALORDBEALLGLORY

 

[JLB]

GINOLJC, to all,
first thanks for the reply, second, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are titles of one Person. as the scripture states "THESE" three, and NOT "THEY" are three. they would indicate PERSONS, the term " THESE" indicate titles.... and titles are not persons.

got it now?

I got it that you believe in the doctrine of oneness; which is also called modalism.


The scripture says these three are one.

Scripture does not say this one is three.

 

[101G]

I got it that you believe in the doctrine of oneness; which is also called modalism.

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