Do you know the real Jesus?

[Neil Spargo]

I know Him. He is the Messiah.

1. He will be born of a virgin (Isaiah 7:14; see Matthew 1:23).
2. He would live in Nazareth of Galilee (Isaiah 9:1,2; see Matthew 2:23; 4:15,16).
3. His birth would occasion the massacre of Bethlehem’s children (Jeremiah 31:15; see Matthew 2:18).
4. His mission would include the Gentiles (Isaiah 42:1-3,6; see Matthew 12:18-21).
5. His ministry would include physical relief (Isaiah 61:1,2; see Luke 4:16-21).
6. He would be the Shepherd struck with the sword, resulting in the sheep being scattered (Zechariah 13:7; see Matthew 26:31,56; Mark 14:27,49,50).
7. He would be betrayed by a friend for 30 pieces of silver (Zechariah 11:12,13; see Matthew 27:9,10).
8. He would be given vinegar and gall to drink (Psalm 69:21; see Matthew 27:34).
9. He would be presented with all dominion over all peoples, nations, and men of every language (Daniel 7:13,14; see Revelation 11:15).
10. He would be hated without a cause (Psalm 69:4; Isaiah 49:7; see John 15:25).
11. He would be rejected by the rulers (Psalm 118:22; see Matthew 21:42; John 7:48).

The point should be obvious. Who is the only person who has fulfilled all of these prophecies and more? Only Jesus Christ the Messiah. There is simply no way to avoid this fact.

 

[Peterlag]

I know Him. He Lives in me.

1. Romans 8:10—“Christ is in you”​

We human beings were made by God with three distinct parts: body, soul, and spirit. Our human spirit is our deepest part, created with the ability to contact and receive the Spirit of God. When we received Jesus as our Savior, He came into our spirit. Now He’s in us, so our “spirit is life.”

2. Second Corinthians 4:6-7—“This treasure in earthen vessels”​

In verse 7, the apostle Paul describes the believers as earthen vessels that contain this treasure. What is this treasure? In verse 6 we see the treasure is Jesus Christ, in whose face we see the glory of God. Christ lives in us earthen vessels as a precious treasure, revealing the glory of God to us from within.

3. Galatians 1:15-16—“His Son in me”​

We might think this verse should read, “It pleased God…to reveal His Son to me.” But in Greek, the original language of the New Testament, the preposition is unmistakably in, so the verse reads “to reveal His Son in me.” God’s plan is to reveal His Son in us, from within, rather than to us, from without. From within us, God is pleased to reveal more of the wonderful Person of Christ.

4. Galatians 2:20—“It is Christ who lives in me”​

Here, Paul did not say, “I live in a Christ-like way,” or, “I glorify Christ through my behavior.” No, he said, “Christ…lives in me,” clearly showing us that Christ lives in His believers. Because He lives in us, the Christian life is not a matter of trying to behave like Christ, but of allowing Him to live in and through us.

You are brilliant the way you see Galatians 2:20. I write about it like this...

I live by the faith of the Son of God...

If Paul in Galatians 2:20 says he's crucified in the flesh. But he still lives, but not him, but Christ. Then I gotta think he's referring to the Christ within. The new nature. And that is the spirit of Christ, which we can shorten to spirit. Then it's the faith from the spirit. Well, one of the operations or manifestations of the spirit is faith.

 

[Keiw1]

well then get a real bible just like the bible 101G has. for the word of God is not changing for 101G or you.

Philippians 2:6 "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:"
Question, "is a man equal with God?'... the Lord Jesus is.

next.

101G.

That way is not found in all translations. Only the ones mislead by Catholicism translating. Misleading all to not enter Gods kingdom.
Jesus= The Father is greater than i.= no equality.

 

[101G]

That way is not found in all translations. Only the ones mislead by Catholicism translating. Misleading all to not enter Gods kingdom.
Jesus= The Father is greater than i.= no equality.

not while in flesh and blood in a G2758 κενόω kenoo state.

101G.

 

[Neil Spargo]

You are brilliant the way you see Galatians 2:20. I write about it like this...

I live by the faith of the Son of God...

If Paul in Galatians 2:20 says he's crucified in the flesh. But he still lives, but not him, but Christ. Then I gotta think he's referring to the Christ within. The new nature. And that is the spirit of Christ, which we can shorten to spirit. Then it's the faith from the spirit. Well, one of the operations or manifestations of the spirit is faith.

It came from here:

8 Verses that Show Jesus Christ Lives in You | Bibles for America Blog

The Bible is full of phrases like “Christ lives in me” and “Christ in you, the hope of glory”. Here are 8 verses that show Jesus lives in us.

blog.biblesforamerica.org

 

[Peterlag]

It came from here:

8 Verses that Show Jesus Christ Lives in You | Bibles for America Blog

The Bible is full of phrases like “Christ lives in me” and “Christ in you, the hope of glory”. Here are 8 verses that show Jesus lives in us.

blog.biblesforamerica.org

I'm not concerned about Christ in you. I'm concerned about you in him.

The verse in 2 Corinthians 5:21, is talking about the "righteousness of God in him." It's the "in him" that nobody seems to be able to understand. This whole thing functions "in him." It's in Christ and therefore in the new nature that is mentioned just a few verses above this in verse 17 where it says "new creature:" The churches have destroyed this idea by teaching we put on the new man by following the teachings of Jesus as we walk in our flesh. So this is a lost art. Galatians 2:20 has Paul living by the faith of Jesus Christ. Not Paul's faith as it's so widely taught.

I now spend much of my time right inside the spirit as close as I can get right in their face. The Greek word menō translated "abide" often deals with being in him, which I'm very concerned about when it comes to walking in Christ, which I believe is the same as walking in the spirit. To be in him or to abide in him deals with remaining or continuing to be present. To dwell, live, and be within him to the end that we are operative in him by his divine influence and energy.

 

[Keiw1]

not while in flesh and blood in a G2758 κενόω kenoo state.

101G.

1Cor 15:24-28--Jesus will be in subjection to his God and Father= forever.= 0 equality

 

[101G]

1Cor 15:24-28--Jesus will be in subjection to his God and Father= forever.= 0 equality

another ERROR on your part. Listen and Learn.
1 Corinthians 15:27 "For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith, all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. 28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all".
SUBJECT: G5293 ὑποτάσσω hupotasso (hoop-ot-as'-so) v. According to Noah Webster's 1828 Dictionary of American English. the Greek word here, G5293 ὑποτάσσω hupotasso, this word is used as a verb, and not a noun. (that will alert one quickly). as a verb one can quickly see, or understand what subject means here in context.
a.put within, b. will. lets look at both and understand this revelation. according to the second definition of subject in the Noah Webster's 1828 Dictionary as a verb, it means 2. To put under or within the power of. (there is our revelation, “within” within the power of). lets back this up with our second understanding. G5293 ὑποτάσσω hupotasso (hoop-ot-as'-so) as a verb which means 1. to subordinate
2. (reflexively) to obey
[from G5259 and G5021]
KJV: be under obedience (obedient), put under, subdue unto, (be, make) subject (to, unto), be (put) in subjection (to, under), submit self unto.
please notice, the KJV can translate subject, G5293 ὑποτάσσω hupotasso, as be under obedience, which bring us to our second understanding. lets see this in scripture, Matthew 26:42 " He went away again the second time, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if this cup may not pass away from me, except I drink it, thy will be done”. now here is the revelation. the Lord Jesus is God “OWN” arm. scripture, Isaiah 63:5 " And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me”. so being his “OWN” arm it is through, or “within” the agency of the Lord Jesus Christ that his, (GOD), OWN “will” is done, hence the obedience. this is proven out in the definition of G5293 ὑποτάσσω hupotasso itself. the definition also states from G5259 and G5021, lets see what G5259 ὑπό hupo
(hoop-oh') states,
1.under
2.(with the genitive case) of place (beneath), or with verbs (the agency or means, through)
3.(with the accusative case) of place (whither (underneath) or where (below) or time (when (at)) In the comparative, it retains the same general applications, especially of inferior position or condition, and specially, covertly or moderately.
[a primary preposition]
KJV: among, by, from, in, of, under, with
examine definition #2 above carefully, it said, when used as a verb. there is our conformation, the agency or means,“through”. and “through” is synonyms with “WITHIN”. so when G5259 is use in VERB form, meaning with a verb as in “BE” subject as here in 1 Corinthians 15:27-28 then it is understood to be used as the “agency or means, through”. other words Isaiah 63:5 is totally correct and on point when God said, " And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me”. the power is in, or within God “own” arm, which the Lord is, “God’s own arm. that’s all that is needed, the Holy Spirit, (the Revelator) and an old English dictionary like the Noah Webster's 1828 Dictionary. the Holy Spirit will enable us, or give us the ability to root out words and their meaning to understand the old English language used at that time when the bible was written.

so, when the verb "be" is used in front of SUBJECT: G5293 ὑποτάσσω hupotasso (hoop-ot-as'-so) v ... the meaning is changed.

101G.

 

[7xLightray]

To be a Christian= following Jesus example as best as possible. That means with ones whole heart, soul and mind. Thus then it is 100% fact, the teachers on earth who have Jesus teach what he taught= correct? = Yes. The true followers do the same.
Jesus Teaches:
1)Matt 6:33- Keep on seeking- FIRST- the kingdom and his( Father= Jehovah) righteousness and all these things will be added.( sustenance, covering, spirituality))))--false teachers teach ones to seek Jesus righteousness first
2)John 17:1-6,26--Jesus is 100% clear= the one who sent him= Father( Jehovah) is THE ONLY TRUE GOD and one must know him as that and know Jesus to get eternal life.--Verse 6=Jehovah, verse 26= Jehovah= The Father.
3) John 4:22-24-- YOU worship what you do not know--but the true followers will worship the Father( Jehovah) in spirit and truth)))--No mention of a trinity by Jesus. Why?=John 17:3--The Father is the only true God.

Just by those 3 teachings one can see clear if their teachers have Jesus or not. And when ones teachers do not match Jesus= Run from them.

John 14:6-- I am the way, the truth and the life, no one comes to the Father except through me. ---See one must go through Jesus and get to the Father( Jehovah)

Trinity religions do not match Jesus. Do you think he is with them?

I agree, we are to remain in all of Christ's teachings, willing to receive His teachings, and be coming to His teachings, and by this we know who is a false teacher. We may have some doctrine wrong, but when we read, or hear the truth of it, we turn and receive correction joyfully, knowing we received correction from the loving God, our Father.

1) Alright, though Jesus was without sin, and the Father was working in and through Him, and He is the exact image of the living God, so it wouldn't hurt. Another way to put it, one would be doing a lot better than if one did not.
2) We agree.
3) We agree.

Agreed, Trinity does not match Jesus doctrine, but may I also point out some things.
1) All of Psalm 22 "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me.." is about Christ.
Verse 10, "On you was I cast from my birth, and from my mother's womb you have been my God." It says "from" not "before!"

2) J.W. also teach Jesus flesh came from Marry. Jn 6:51 "I am the living bread that came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever. And the bread that I will give for the life of the world is my flesh." Jn 1:14 "..the word became flesh.." The word became the body of Christ. Jesus taking on blemished flesh would be the wrong Christ, this would be a man of sin.

Should we run?

 

[Keiw1]

another ERROR on your part. Listen and Learn.
1 Corinthians 15:27 "For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith, all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. 28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all".
SUBJECT: G5293 ὑποτάσσω hupotasso (hoop-ot-as'-so) v. According to Noah Webster's 1828 Dictionary of American English. the Greek word here, G5293 ὑποτάσσω hupotasso, this word is used as a verb, and not a noun. (that will alert one quickly). as a verb one can quickly see, or understand what subject means here in context.
a.put within, b. will. lets look at both and understand this revelation. according to the second definition of subject in the Noah Webster's 1828 Dictionary as a verb, it means 2. To put under or within the power of. (there is our revelation, “within” within the power of). lets back this up with our second understanding. G5293 ὑποτάσσω hupotasso (hoop-ot-as'-so) as a verb which means 1. to subordinate
2. (reflexively) to obey
[from G5259 and G5021]
KJV: be under obedience (obedient), put under, subdue unto, (be, make) subject (to, unto), be (put) in subjection (to, under), submit self unto.
please notice, the KJV can translate subject, G5293 ὑποτάσσω hupotasso, as be under obedience, which bring us to our second understanding. lets see this in scripture, Matthew 26:42 " He went away again the second time, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if this cup may not pass away from me, except I drink it, thy will be done”. now here is the revelation. the Lord Jesus is God “OWN” arm. scripture, Isaiah 63:5 " And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me”. so being his “OWN” arm it is through, or “within” the agency of the Lord Jesus Christ that his, (GOD), OWN “will” is done, hence the obedience. this is proven out in the definition of G5293 ὑποτάσσω hupotasso itself. the definition also states from G5259 and G5021, lets see what G5259 ὑπό hupo
(hoop-oh') states,
1.under
2.(with the genitive case) of place (beneath), or with verbs (the agency or means, through)
3.(with the accusative case) of place (whither (underneath) or where (below) or time (when (at)) In the comparative, it retains the same general applications, especially of inferior position or condition, and specially, covertly or moderately.
[a primary preposition]
KJV: among, by, from, in, of, under, with
examine definition #2 above carefully, it said, when used as a verb. there is our conformation, the agency or means,“through”. and “through” is synonyms with “WITHIN”. so when G5259 is use in VERB form, meaning with a verb as in “BE” subject as here in 1 Corinthians 15:27-28 then it is understood to be used as the “agency or means, through”. other words Isaiah 63:5 is totally correct and on point when God said, " And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me”. the power is in, or within God “own” arm, which the Lord is, “God’s own arm. that’s all that is needed, the Holy Spirit, (the Revelator) and an old English dictionary like the Noah Webster's 1828 Dictionary. the Holy Spirit will enable us, or give us the ability to root out words and their meaning to understand the old English language used at that time when the bible was written.

so, when the verb "be" is used in front of SUBJECT: G5293 ὑποτάσσω hupotasso (hoop-ot-as'-so) v ... the meaning is changed.

101G.

Twist it all you want. When one is in subjection= 0 equality--You should believe Jesus-The Father is greater than i--But asking a trinitarian to believe Jesus never works. They like the darkness to much, it tickles their ears.

 

[Keiw1]

I agree, we are to remain in all of Christ's teachings, willing to receive His teachings, and be coming to His teachings, and by this we know who is a false teacher. We may have some doctrine wrong, but when we read, or hear the truth of it, we turn and receive correction joyfully, knowing we received correction from the loving God, our Father.

1) Alright, though Jesus was without sin, and the Father was working in and through Him, and He is the exact image of the living God, so it wouldn't hurt. Another way to put it, one would be doing a lot better than if one did not.
2) We agree.
3) We agree.

Agreed, Trinity does not match Jesus doctrine, but may I also point out some things.
1) All of Psalm 22 "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me.." is about Christ.
Verse 10, "On you was I cast from my birth, and from my mother's womb you have been my God." It says "from" not "before!"

2) J.W. also teach Jesus flesh came from Marry. Jn 6:51 "I am the living bread that came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever. And the bread that I will give for the life of the world is my flesh." Jn 1:14 "..the word became flesh.." The word became the body of Christ. Jesus taking on blemished flesh would be the wrong Christ, this would be a man of sin.

Should we run?

Run from trinity religions and their altered translations.