Do you know the real Jesus?

[Neil Spargo]

I know Him. He is the Messiah.

1. He will be born of a virgin (Isaiah 7:14; see Matthew 1:23).
2. He would live in Nazareth of Galilee (Isaiah 9:1,2; see Matthew 2:23; 4:15,16).
3. His birth would occasion the massacre of Bethlehem’s children (Jeremiah 31:15; see Matthew 2:18).
4. His mission would include the Gentiles (Isaiah 42:1-3,6; see Matthew 12:18-21).
5. His ministry would include physical relief (Isaiah 61:1,2; see Luke 4:16-21).
6. He would be the Shepherd struck with the sword, resulting in the sheep being scattered (Zechariah 13:7; see Matthew 26:31,56; Mark 14:27,49,50).
7. He would be betrayed by a friend for 30 pieces of silver (Zechariah 11:12,13; see Matthew 27:9,10).
8. He would be given vinegar and gall to drink (Psalm 69:21; see Matthew 27:34).
9. He would be presented with all dominion over all peoples, nations, and men of every language (Daniel 7:13,14; see Revelation 11:15).
10. He would be hated without a cause (Psalm 69:4; Isaiah 49:7; see John 15:25).
11. He would be rejected by the rulers (Psalm 118:22; see Matthew 21:42; John 7:48).

The point should be obvious. Who is the only person who has fulfilled all of these prophecies and more? Only Jesus Christ the Messiah. There is simply no way to avoid this fact.

 

[Peterlag]

I know Him. He Lives in me.

1. Romans 8:10—“Christ is in you”​

We human beings were made by God with three distinct parts: body, soul, and spirit. Our human spirit is our deepest part, created with the ability to contact and receive the Spirit of God. When we received Jesus as our Savior, He came into our spirit. Now He’s in us, so our “spirit is life.”

2. Second Corinthians 4:6-7—“This treasure in earthen vessels”​

In verse 7, the apostle Paul describes the believers as earthen vessels that contain this treasure. What is this treasure? In verse 6 we see the treasure is Jesus Christ, in whose face we see the glory of God. Christ lives in us earthen vessels as a precious treasure, revealing the glory of God to us from within.

3. Galatians 1:15-16—“His Son in me”​

We might think this verse should read, “It pleased God…to reveal His Son to me.” But in Greek, the original language of the New Testament, the preposition is unmistakably in, so the verse reads “to reveal His Son in me.” God’s plan is to reveal His Son in us, from within, rather than to us, from without. From within us, God is pleased to reveal more of the wonderful Person of Christ.

4. Galatians 2:20—“It is Christ who lives in me”​

Here, Paul did not say, “I live in a Christ-like way,” or, “I glorify Christ through my behavior.” No, he said, “Christ…lives in me,” clearly showing us that Christ lives in His believers. Because He lives in us, the Christian life is not a matter of trying to behave like Christ, but of allowing Him to live in and through us.

You are brilliant the way you see Galatians 2:20. I write about it like this...

I live by the faith of the Son of God...

If Paul in Galatians 2:20 says he's crucified in the flesh. But he still lives, but not him, but Christ. Then I gotta think he's referring to the Christ within. The new nature. And that is the spirit of Christ, which we can shorten to spirit. Then it's the faith from the spirit. Well, one of the operations or manifestations of the spirit is faith.

 

[Keiw1]

well then get a real bible just like the bible 101G has. for the word of God is not changing for 101G or you.

Philippians 2:6 "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:"
Question, "is a man equal with God?'... the Lord Jesus is.

next.

101G.

That way is not found in all translations. Only the ones mislead by Catholicism translating. Misleading all to not enter Gods kingdom.
Jesus= The Father is greater than i.= no equality.

 

[101G]

That way is not found in all translations. Only the ones mislead by Catholicism translating. Misleading all to not enter Gods kingdom.
Jesus= The Father is greater than i.= no equality.

not while in flesh and blood in a G2758 κενόω kenoo state.

101G.

 

[Neil Spargo]

You are brilliant the way you see Galatians 2:20. I write about it like this...

I live by the faith of the Son of God...

If Paul in Galatians 2:20 says he's crucified in the flesh. But he still lives, but not him, but Christ. Then I gotta think he's referring to the Christ within. The new nature. And that is the spirit of Christ, which we can shorten to spirit. Then it's the faith from the spirit. Well, one of the operations or manifestations of the spirit is faith.

It came from here:

8 Verses that Show Jesus Christ Lives in You | Bibles for America Blog

The Bible is full of phrases like “Christ lives in me” and “Christ in you, the hope of glory”. Here are 8 verses that show Jesus lives in us.

blog.biblesforamerica.org

 

[Peterlag]

It came from here:

8 Verses that Show Jesus Christ Lives in You | Bibles for America Blog

The Bible is full of phrases like “Christ lives in me” and “Christ in you, the hope of glory”. Here are 8 verses that show Jesus lives in us.

blog.biblesforamerica.org

I'm not concerned about Christ in you. I'm concerned about you in him.

The verse in 2 Corinthians 5:21, is talking about the "righteousness of God in him." It's the "in him" that nobody seems to be able to understand. This whole thing functions "in him." It's in Christ and therefore in the new nature that is mentioned just a few verses above this in verse 17 where it says "new creature:" The churches have destroyed this idea by teaching we put on the new man by following the teachings of Jesus as we walk in our flesh. So this is a lost art. Galatians 2:20 has Paul living by the faith of Jesus Christ. Not Paul's faith as it's so widely taught.

I now spend much of my time right inside the spirit as close as I can get right in their face. The Greek word menō translated "abide" often deals with being in him, which I'm very concerned about when it comes to walking in Christ, which I believe is the same as walking in the spirit. To be in him or to abide in him deals with remaining or continuing to be present. To dwell, live, and be within him to the end that we are operative in him by his divine influence and energy.

 

[Keiw1]

not while in flesh and blood in a G2758 κενόω kenoo state.

101G.

1Cor 15:24-28--Jesus will be in subjection to his God and Father= forever.= 0 equality

 

[101G]

1Cor 15:24-28--Jesus will be in subjection to his God and Father= forever.= 0 equality

another ERROR on your part. Listen and Learn.
1 Corinthians 15:27 "For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith, all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. 28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all".
SUBJECT: G5293 ὑποτάσσω hupotasso (hoop-ot-as'-so) v. According to Noah Webster's 1828 Dictionary of American English. the Greek word here, G5293 ὑποτάσσω hupotasso, this word is used as a verb, and not a noun. (that will alert one quickly). as a verb one can quickly see, or understand what subject means here in context.
a.put within, b. will. lets look at both and understand this revelation. according to the second definition of subject in the Noah Webster's 1828 Dictionary as a verb, it means 2. To put under or within the power of. (there is our revelation, “within” within the power of). lets back this up with our second understanding. G5293 ὑποτάσσω hupotasso (hoop-ot-as'-so) as a verb which means 1. to subordinate
2. (reflexively) to obey
[from G5259 and G5021]
KJV: be under obedience (obedient), put under, subdue unto, (be, make) subject (to, unto), be (put) in subjection (to, under), submit self unto.
please notice, the KJV can translate subject, G5293 ὑποτάσσω hupotasso, as be under obedience, which bring us to our second understanding. lets see this in scripture, Matthew 26:42 " He went away again the second time, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if this cup may not pass away from me, except I drink it, thy will be done”. now here is the revelation. the Lord Jesus is God “OWN” arm. scripture, Isaiah 63:5 " And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me”. so being his “OWN” arm it is through, or “within” the agency of the Lord Jesus Christ that his, (GOD), OWN “will” is done, hence the obedience. this is proven out in the definition of G5293 ὑποτάσσω hupotasso itself. the definition also states from G5259 and G5021, lets see what G5259 ὑπό hupo
(hoop-oh') states,
1.under
2.(with the genitive case) of place (beneath), or with verbs (the agency or means, through)
3.(with the accusative case) of place (whither (underneath) or where (below) or time (when (at)) In the comparative, it retains the same general applications, especially of inferior position or condition, and specially, covertly or moderately.
[a primary preposition]
KJV: among, by, from, in, of, under, with
examine definition #2 above carefully, it said, when used as a verb. there is our conformation, the agency or means,“through”. and “through” is synonyms with “WITHIN”. so when G5259 is use in VERB form, meaning with a verb as in “BE” subject as here in 1 Corinthians 15:27-28 then it is understood to be used as the “agency or means, through”. other words Isaiah 63:5 is totally correct and on point when God said, " And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me”. the power is in, or within God “own” arm, which the Lord is, “God’s own arm. that’s all that is needed, the Holy Spirit, (the Revelator) and an old English dictionary like the Noah Webster's 1828 Dictionary. the Holy Spirit will enable us, or give us the ability to root out words and their meaning to understand the old English language used at that time when the bible was written.

so, when the verb "be" is used in front of SUBJECT: G5293 ὑποτάσσω hupotasso (hoop-ot-as'-so) v ... the meaning is changed.

101G.

 

[7xLightray]

To be a Christian= following Jesus example as best as possible. That means with ones whole heart, soul and mind. Thus then it is 100% fact, the teachers on earth who have Jesus teach what he taught= correct? = Yes. The true followers do the same.
Jesus Teaches:
1)Matt 6:33- Keep on seeking- FIRST- the kingdom and his( Father= Jehovah) righteousness and all these things will be added.( sustenance, covering, spirituality))))--false teachers teach ones to seek Jesus righteousness first
2)John 17:1-6,26--Jesus is 100% clear= the one who sent him= Father( Jehovah) is THE ONLY TRUE GOD and one must know him as that and know Jesus to get eternal life.--Verse 6=Jehovah, verse 26= Jehovah= The Father.
3) John 4:22-24-- YOU worship what you do not know--but the true followers will worship the Father( Jehovah) in spirit and truth)))--No mention of a trinity by Jesus. Why?=John 17:3--The Father is the only true God.

Just by those 3 teachings one can see clear if their teachers have Jesus or not. And when ones teachers do not match Jesus= Run from them.

John 14:6-- I am the way, the truth and the life, no one comes to the Father except through me. ---See one must go through Jesus and get to the Father( Jehovah)

Trinity religions do not match Jesus. Do you think he is with them?

I agree, we are to remain in all of Christ's teachings, willing to receive His teachings, and be coming to His teachings, and by this we know who is a false teacher. We may have some doctrine wrong, but when we read, or hear the truth of it, we turn and receive correction joyfully, knowing we received correction from the loving God, our Father.

1) Alright, though Jesus was without sin, and the Father was working in and through Him, and He is the exact image of the living God, so it wouldn't hurt. Another way to put it, one would be doing a lot better than if one did not.
2) We agree.
3) We agree.

Agreed, Trinity does not match Jesus doctrine, but may I also point out some things.
1) All of Psalm 22 "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me.." is about Christ.
Verse 10, "On you was I cast from my birth, and from my mother's womb you have been my God." It says "from" not "before!"

2) J.W. also teach Jesus flesh came from Marry. Jn 6:51 "I am the living bread that came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever. And the bread that I will give for the life of the world is my flesh." Jn 1:14 "..the word became flesh.." The word became the body of Christ. Jesus taking on blemished flesh would be the wrong Christ, this would be a man of sin.

Should we run?

 

[Keiw1]

another ERROR on your part. Listen and Learn.
1 Corinthians 15:27 "For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith, all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. 28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all".
SUBJECT: G5293 ὑποτάσσω hupotasso (hoop-ot-as'-so) v. According to Noah Webster's 1828 Dictionary of American English. the Greek word here, G5293 ὑποτάσσω hupotasso, this word is used as a verb, and not a noun. (that will alert one quickly). as a verb one can quickly see, or understand what subject means here in context.
a.put within, b. will. lets look at both and understand this revelation. according to the second definition of subject in the Noah Webster's 1828 Dictionary as a verb, it means 2. To put under or within the power of. (there is our revelation, “within” within the power of). lets back this up with our second understanding. G5293 ὑποτάσσω hupotasso (hoop-ot-as'-so) as a verb which means 1. to subordinate
2. (reflexively) to obey
[from G5259 and G5021]
KJV: be under obedience (obedient), put under, subdue unto, (be, make) subject (to, unto), be (put) in subjection (to, under), submit self unto.
please notice, the KJV can translate subject, G5293 ὑποτάσσω hupotasso, as be under obedience, which bring us to our second understanding. lets see this in scripture, Matthew 26:42 " He went away again the second time, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if this cup may not pass away from me, except I drink it, thy will be done”. now here is the revelation. the Lord Jesus is God “OWN” arm. scripture, Isaiah 63:5 " And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me”. so being his “OWN” arm it is through, or “within” the agency of the Lord Jesus Christ that his, (GOD), OWN “will” is done, hence the obedience. this is proven out in the definition of G5293 ὑποτάσσω hupotasso itself. the definition also states from G5259 and G5021, lets see what G5259 ὑπό hupo
(hoop-oh') states,
1.under
2.(with the genitive case) of place (beneath), or with verbs (the agency or means, through)
3.(with the accusative case) of place (whither (underneath) or where (below) or time (when (at)) In the comparative, it retains the same general applications, especially of inferior position or condition, and specially, covertly or moderately.
[a primary preposition]
KJV: among, by, from, in, of, under, with
examine definition #2 above carefully, it said, when used as a verb. there is our conformation, the agency or means,“through”. and “through” is synonyms with “WITHIN”. so when G5259 is use in VERB form, meaning with a verb as in “BE” subject as here in 1 Corinthians 15:27-28 then it is understood to be used as the “agency or means, through”. other words Isaiah 63:5 is totally correct and on point when God said, " And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me”. the power is in, or within God “own” arm, which the Lord is, “God’s own arm. that’s all that is needed, the Holy Spirit, (the Revelator) and an old English dictionary like the Noah Webster's 1828 Dictionary. the Holy Spirit will enable us, or give us the ability to root out words and their meaning to understand the old English language used at that time when the bible was written.

so, when the verb "be" is used in front of SUBJECT: G5293 ὑποτάσσω hupotasso (hoop-ot-as'-so) v ... the meaning is changed.

101G.

Twist it all you want. When one is in subjection= 0 equality--You should believe Jesus-The Father is greater than i--But asking a trinitarian to believe Jesus never works. They like the darkness to much, it tickles their ears.

 

[Keiw1]

I agree, we are to remain in all of Christ's teachings, willing to receive His teachings, and be coming to His teachings, and by this we know who is a false teacher. We may have some doctrine wrong, but when we read, or hear the truth of it, we turn and receive correction joyfully, knowing we received correction from the loving God, our Father.

1) Alright, though Jesus was without sin, and the Father was working in and through Him, and He is the exact image of the living God, so it wouldn't hurt. Another way to put it, one would be doing a lot better than if one did not.
2) We agree.
3) We agree.

Agreed, Trinity does not match Jesus doctrine, but may I also point out some things.
1) All of Psalm 22 "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me.." is about Christ.
Verse 10, "On you was I cast from my birth, and from my mother's womb you have been my God." It says "from" not "before!"

2) J.W. also teach Jesus flesh came from Marry. Jn 6:51 "I am the living bread that came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever. And the bread that I will give for the life of the world is my flesh." Jn 1:14 "..the word became flesh.." The word became the body of Christ. Jesus taking on blemished flesh would be the wrong Christ, this would be a man of sin.

Should we run?

Run from trinity religions and their altered translations.

 

[101G]

Twist it all you want.

So, we can take this as you're IGNORANT to understanding?

When one is in subjection= 0 equality--You should believe Jesus-The Father is greater than i--But asking a trinitarian to believe Jesus never works.

is that "Greater than" in quality, or quantity? ....... understand the difference before you speak again.

101G.

 

[Keiw1]

So, we can take this as you're IGNORANT to understanding?

is that "Greater than" in quality, or quantity? ....... understand the difference before you speak again.

101G.

You tell me--John 15:10-14--If Jesus did not obey what his Father commanded him, he wouldn't have remained in his Fathers love. Show us the equality?

 

[Bronson]

Many, many lives are ruined by conflict, weakness, and aimlessness. Jesus did not come into the world and die and rise again to ruin your life. But to save it. And what we will see is that he saves us from ruining our lives by becoming himself our peace and our power and our purpose. Make Jesus your peace. And Jesus your power. And Jesus your purpose.

 

[101G]

You tell me--John 15:10-14--If Jesus did not obey what his Father commanded him, he wouldn't have remained in his Fathers love. Show us the equality?

sorry answering late, was busy with something else. but..... ok the Equality. Listen and Learn, John 13:16 "Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord; neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him." John 13:17 "If ye know these things, happy are ye if ye do them."

NOW THIS, John 14:12 "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father."


now put your thinking cap on. the servant is not greater than his lord... but listen to what the Lord Jesus said, "He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do"

HOLD IT .... STOP THE PRESS, are we GREATER than the Lord Jesus who now sends us now? ..... listen, and greater works than these shall he do. so K are we GREATER than the Lord Jesus who SENT us? now find out why and you will have your answer...... (smile), the answer is right in John 14:12 the verse itself. now find it out. and the very same verse answer the GREATER THAN question at the same time. .......... this is just too easy.

this is why 101G thank God for the Holy Spirit. he will guide us all in all... all ... All TRUTH, if we let him.

101G.

 

[7xLightray]

Run from trinity religions and their altered translations.

I'm not a trinitarian.
I run from J.W., Oneness, Unitarian, Trinity, and many others. For there are scriptures against every one of these. You all prove that every day, by showing each other their errors, recall Psalm 22 and Jn 6:51.

 

[101G]

Many, many lives are ruined by conflict, weakness, and aimlessness. Jesus did not come into the world and die and rise again to ruin your life. But to save it. And what we will see is that he saves us from ruining our lives by becoming himself our peace and our power and our purpose. Make Jesus your peace. And Jesus your power. And Jesus your purpose.

good, but the crust of the matter is based on KNOWLEDGE of the scriptures. 101G suggest one follow the Spirit. test the spirit by the Spirit and one will not go wrong. but warning, James 1:2 "My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations;" James 1:3 "Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience." James 1:4 "But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing." James 1:5 "If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him." James 1:6 "But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed." James 1:7 "For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord." James 1:8 "A double minded man is unstable in all his ways."

101G.

 

[Bronson]

Jesus said to them, “How foolish you are, and how slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken! Did not the Christ [Messiah] have to suffer these things and then enter His glory?” And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, he explained to them what was said in all the Scriptures concerning himself
Luke 24:25-27

But the things which God announced beforehand by the mouth of all the prophets, that His Christ [Messiah] should suffer, He has thus fulfilled
Acts 3:18

Who is the seed (offspring) of the woman who crushes the head of Satan?
Who is the seed of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob that will eventually bless all nations?
Who is the “prophet like Moses” of whom God says, “You must listen to him”?
Who is the one crucified?
Who is the child that is God and will have an everlasting kingdom?
Who was crushed and pierced for our transgressions? Upon whom did the Lord lay the iniquity of all mankind?
Who is the righteous Branch, the wise King, who will be called “the Lord our righteousness”?
Who is the “Anointed One” to be “cut off” after 483 years?
Who is the one who is eternal, who will be the ruler over Israel, who is born in Bethlehem Ephrathah?
Who is Jehovah, “the one they have pierced,” for whom Jerusalem and all the nation of Israel will weep and mourn?


That's the real Jesus!

 

[101G]

Jesus said to them, “How foolish you are, and how slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken! Did not the Christ [Messiah] have to suffer these things and then enter His glory?” And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, he explained to them what was said in all the Scriptures concerning himself
Luke 24:25-27

But the things which God announced beforehand by the mouth of all the prophets, that His Christ [Messiah] should suffer, He has thus fulfilled
Acts 3:18

Who is the seed (offspring) of the woman who crushes the head of Satan?
Who is the seed of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob that will eventually bless all nations?
Who is the “prophet like Moses” of whom God says, “You must listen to him”?
Who is the one crucified?
Who is the child that is God and will have an everlasting kingdom?
Who was crushed and pierced for our transgressions? Upon whom did the Lord lay the iniquity of all mankind?
Who is the righteous Branch, the wise King, who will be called “the Lord our righteousness”?
Who is the “Anointed One” to be “cut off” after 483 years?
Who is the one who is eternal, who will be the ruler over Israel, who is born in Bethlehem Ephrathah?
Who is Jehovah, “the one they have pierced,” for whom Jerusalem and all the nation of Israel will weep and mourn?


That's the real Jesus!

The Lord Jesus came for the Lost... Right. now was Job Lost? no he was JUST/Upright, and Just meand justified, or declared RIGHTIOUS. here was a GENTILE Riughtious before God and WITHOUT the Law. just as the apostle by God said, Romans 2:13 "(For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified." Romans 2:14 "For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:" Romans 2:15 "Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another"

did not the prophets of old say the same exact thing? Micah 6:8 "He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?" BINGO, this fulfils the LAW. and God had alreasdy showed it to man. only the Law was given unto Israel to show them their sins. GENTILES as well as ... "some" ... jews were obeying God.

101G.

 

[Keiw1]

sorry answering late, was busy with something else. but..... ok the Equality. Listen and Learn, John 13:16 "Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord; neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him." John 13:17 "If ye know these things, happy are ye if ye do them."

NOW THIS, John 14:12 "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father."


now put your thinking cap on. the servant is not greater than his lord... but listen to what the Lord Jesus said, "He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do"

HOLD IT .... STOP THE PRESS, are we GREATER than the Lord Jesus who now sends us now? ..... listen, and greater works than these shall he do. so K are we GREATER than the Lord Jesus who SENT us? now find out why and you will have your answer...... (smile), the answer is right in John 14:12 the verse itself. now find it out. and the very same verse answer the GREATER THAN question at the same time. .......... this is just too easy.

this is why 101G thank God for the Holy Spirit. he will guide us all in all... all ... All TRUTH, if we let him.

101G.

The holy spirit does guide into ALL truth= 1 single religion, not hundreds with hundreds of different truths.