Show me the verses that you think promote the idea that Jesus was "foresaken" even if "for a moment of time". I already addresses Matthew 27:45-46.
Did God, forsake Jesus on the cross?
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God turned away from him at the cross
Would you mind telling us exactly where the Bible explicitly says that, for the purposes of forsaking Christ? If you can't then your statement will be consigned to the category of myths and fables.
I’m asking you to read the original post. Will you do that, otherwise I will not answer any other questions further.
Jesus himself is the one saying the phrase…
He certainly had hope and faith. Thank you for commenting.
I did read it. I comment only on verses mentioned, not on personal takes. I start from Bible verses, not from personal views.
You mentioned "somewhere is mentioned in Psalms where it pleased God to crush his son, because of the eternal precious blood that outweighed sin". Do you want to discuss that verse?
No. I don’t take personal views on verses. If you’re gonna be adamant that way. I’ll give no push for you to do it to me. All the best to you then. And God be with.
Good. Now do you want to objectively discuss the Bible verse that pertains to your comment: "somewhere is mentioned in Psalms where it pleased God to crush his son, because of the eternal precious blood that outweighed sin"?
My over all thankfullness goes to God! Cause you can’t believe or trust or follow me. Nor anyone else. All should by prayer ask God to help you by the spirit, and you grow in knowing God, which is eternal life.
No. I do not. I’m okay with God crushing his Word by and through Jesus subjection to the Law he fulfilled. Bringing forth the new covenant, after resurrection of Jesus.
No. I do not. I’m okay with God crushing his Word by and through Jesus subjection to the Law he fulfilled. Bringing forth the new covenant, after resurrection of Jesus.
My over all thankfullness goes to God! Cause you can’t believe or trust or follow me. Nor anyone else. All should by prayer ask God to help you by the spirit, and you grow in knowing God, which is eternal life.
No. I do not. I’m okay with God crushing his Word made flesh, by and through Jesus subjection to the Law he fulfulled.
No. I do not. I’m okay with God crushing his Word made flesh, by and through Jesus subjection to the Law he fulfulled.
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People miss things cause of traditions of man. God left him on the cross because sin entered into his body.
How could Gid reside in that body now with sin?
He could not therefore leaves Jesus.
And Jesus still having faith and trust in God asks why have you forsaken me? He left. Leaving Jesus there without the anointing which was God in Christ.
I follow only Christ, not you nor anyone else.
So you refuse to discuss scripture. Suit yourself. Have a nice day.
You too, that first sentence was a general assertion to all, nothing personal to you. All the best, thank you for understanding.
Within the Fables of Calvinism. You didn't read that book?
Where do you get that this subject has to do with that theology?
Don’t they teach that God punished his son by his wrath on the son?
That’s horrible! And untrue.
Nowhere in Scripture is God wrathful to Jesus or Believers. Only a pagan god would be wrathful to Jesus or Believers. That's what Calvinists believe.
What is untrue? I'm trying to follow you.
This subject has nothing to do with that. I was trying to follow why you said what you did to the other person…
don’t do that silly!
have a good day.Calvinists also believe that God did forsake Jesus on the Cross, which directly addresses your thread's title.
They do that because they believe in a pagan god that must be appeased by venting his wrath on an innocent sacrifice.
