Concupiscence
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praise_yeshua
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So you’ve been wrong for 30+years?
Doug
Or you have? Did you consider that? We can discuss the details. I love the details. I prefer them.
praise_yeshua
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I'm going to unignore you for now. I'm not going to waste much time on you but I am glad you're responding. I usually don't pay any attention to what you have to say anymore. It is very telling that you have a new "forum friend"... @TibiasDad . Maybe you've been such for some time. I haven't paid attention. People usually "clan up" when you start getting into what matters in theology. False doctrine tends to make strange "bedfellows". I personally wouldn't have placed you as being some champion of Doug's thinking.
I mean you are a Unitarian. I realized a very long time ago that there really very few Trinitarians in this world. Few that understood the context of the Essence and Nature of God to the point of actually being able to properly express it.
I have no fear of any Unitarian. I know all of you think you're undefeatable. Not that I care about actually "defeating" you. I don't. It is not about the "sake of winning an argument" to me. Though many people believe I'm that way. I'm not. We are usually so very far apart in how we view God, that it isn't fruitful. Also, I know that no matter what I say, you'll twist it to the point it really isn't worthy my time to "untie" your comments.
Maybe this time it will be different. I will offer to debate you publically in a live video/audio (your choice) if we get to the "twisting part" that usually becomes your "MO". BTW. That comes from Latin and denotes something sinister. I mean every word of it. I believe you're an enemy of God. I don't mind saying it at all. I will treat you as such.
So....
Do tell. Please state clearly that you believe the knowledge that Jesus Christ possessed in the Incarnation originate in The Father. I don't want you to say anything else than this. Just confirm this and I'll continue. Don't talk around it. Don't form a "rabbit trail" to answer. I'm not trying to limit what you're trying to express but you need to say those words. That is exactly what I see you saying.
@TibiasDad is talking around the inevitable conclusion of what he has said. Words have meaning. They carry and produce a foundation of beliefs that I already know. You haven't said one thing that I don't already know is the inevitable result of Arminianism. I thought TibiasDad actually knew Arminianism. There is more evil that has come out of Arminianism than I can tolerate.
To me, there isn't an Arminian Trinitarian that exists on this planet. You can't believe what Arminianism teaches and be a functioning Trinitarian.
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praise_yeshua
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The term "meticulous determinism" is self evident. I don't need to quantify it for you.
If you want to know why I said it, then that is a different question. Ask.
praise_yeshua
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I'd like to make an additional statement. Arminianism has largely produced all the evil things that exist in modern Unitarianism.
I'll go further. Arminianism has also produced much of the evils that exist in modern Universalism. I can explain and maybe this needs a dedicated thread. Just want to make my position clear.
I'll go further. Arminianism has also produced much of the evils that exist in modern Universalism. I can explain and maybe this needs a dedicated thread. Just want to make my position clear.
TibiasDad
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TibiasDad
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I know what meticulous determinism is, and have never done anything but argue against it.
Your mention of it as being my belief show the fanaticism of your sense of reality. I have never held to determinism, much less meticulous determinism. I am a lifelong Wesleyan/Arminian and a now retired Nazarene pastor. Determinism has never been a part of my theology!
Doug
