Changing of Doctrines in Church History
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Words communicate concepts. We use English words to communicate concepts that were originally written in Hebrew or Greek. Whether you consider a particular English word to be a buzzword does not matter, but what does matter is whether the concept that it refers to is in accordance with the concepts of Hebrew and Greek words.
e v e
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the words in question are laden with baggage and are not what He said.
EclipseEventSigns
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When it comes right down to it, everything can be traced back to an anti-jewish attitude of the church outside of the middle east. Wherever the New Testament in Greek went, a faulty church tradition developed. The fight over Passover/Easter, Sabbath/Sunday, Good Friday, Christmas, Roman Catholicism, removal of access to Scripture for the people, arrogance of western church, ignorance of eastern church, anti-jewish crusades and so much more. You have to hold a lot of church tradition under the light of accurate history to get a proper sense of what's really happened over the last 2000 years.
Wrangler
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Like I am is being a common expression everyone uses?
Wrangler
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Dude! Brevity is the soul of wit. Get yourself some.
I wrote in another forum that in my journey, I've come to see Christian doctrine as IDOLATRY. The proper subject of theology is WHO, not WHAT. Our relationship with our Creator is where it is at. Dogma is a manmade WHAT that I do not believe is pleasing to him.
1 Sam 15:22 Obedience is better than sacrifice, and submission is better than offering the fat of rams. This includes obedience to the above. God does not require a doctrinal purity test, a reasoning mind sacrifice in order to be saved.
In my view, the divine way is too simple for us. We like our complexity for it feeds our ego ... let me explain proper doctrine to you ...
<meme jesus and boy in heaven why are we the only ones everyone else had their doctrine just a little off> ... I could not find it
civic
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you learned those things on your own without any outside influence from other book or people ?Dude! Brevity is the soul of wit. Get yourself some.
I wrote in another forum that in my journey, I've come to see Christian doctrine as IDOLATRY. The proper subject of theology is WHO, not WHAT. Our relationship with our Creator is where it is at. Dogma is a manmade WHAT that I do not believe is pleasing to him.
1 Sam 15:22 Obedience is better than sacrifice, and submission is better than offering the fat of rams. This includes obedience to the above. God does not require a doctrinal purity test, a reasoning mind sacrifice in order to be saved.
In my view, the divine way is too simple for us. We like our complexity for it feeds our ego ... let me explain proper doctrine to you ...
<meme jesus and boy in heaven why are we the only ones everyone else had their doctrine just a little off> ... I could not find it
Diserner
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True and false doctrine can be spread, but it is not the only way it happens.
Anyone can on their own come up with a false or true doctrine all by themselves, they don't necessarily need outside help.
Yet I've never met someone yet who spent hours on their knees with just the Bible and Jesus and still was full of false doctrines.
There is always an element of willfulness and compromise, underlying roots of stubbornness and idolatry, manifesting the fruits of false beliefs.
Anyone can on their own come up with a false or true doctrine all by themselves, they don't necessarily need outside help.
Yet I've never met someone yet who spent hours on their knees with just the Bible and Jesus and still was full of false doctrines.
There is always an element of willfulness and compromise, underlying roots of stubbornness and idolatry, manifesting the fruits of false beliefs.
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civic
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Hmmmm I can think of many. All the monks , eastern religious leaders , their founders of their religions , those who worship allah etc
Wrangler
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Why does it matter?
civic
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just curios
e v e
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I don't understand what you are asking here?
Diserner
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I'm not even sure what you are trying to say here.
But if you're claim was they were alone with the Bible and Jesus, lol, well, I have some problems with that.
Diserner
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e v e
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e v e
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alright. I get your question now... except the context is missing.
e v e
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Words have roots and all synonyms are not synonyms and not every one that translates
can hear Him... He does not speak in mumbo jumbo language but esau
sure loves all that and throws it in... The words used actually matters quite a lot... if you use Greek
philosophy buzzwords, or any buzzwords, then right there the baggage of those words
attaches. God never talks that way!
e v e
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While 'I am' is not a buzz term, it sure has to be placed in context.
See my last post above this one.
Wrangler
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No, it does not have to be placed in context! That is the power of logic - it does not have to be placed in context to work. The only caveat is that word play is not involved, sarcasm, etc.
For instance, when it is said Mike Tyson is "the baddest man on the planet" it does not literally mean he is a bad man or a bad boxer. This is word play.
The simple statement having nothing to do with context is "I am" is a common expression everyone uses. I am done writing this post. I am older than my wife. Before my wife was born I am. None of these are anything more than common expressions. Feel free to consult your favorite lexicon to understand more or the Little Brown Handbook of English.
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