Calvinism : TULIP - The 5 Points... simplified

[Behold]

Reader...


John Calvinism.. Hyper Calvinism.. The "5 Points" "TULIP">... is a Theological blasphemy committed willfully against the Holy Spirit, that is incredible.

ITs an attack on God, personally,...... and an attack against the Cross, Literally.

John Calvin has his deceived believing that God wont let some people trust in Christ.

Now, here is how to SEE THAT... so that you get the idea.... regarding exactly how Satanic it is..

Reader...That is exactly teaching.. = that JESUS wont allow some people, to trust in Him..... That Jesus The Christ wont allow some people to BELIEVE in Him.

So, what could be more SATANIC, then that teaching?... And that is the HEART, the CORE, the Theological FOUNDATION< of Calvinism.. of "TULIP"> of "pre-destined elect" Theology.

Calvinism... HyperCalvinism.. "the 5 Points" .. TULIP..... : is Of The Devil

 

[Tobias]

I disagree.

Post in thread 'Freed from : Calvinism-TULIP-5 points Hyper-Calvinism'

Jun 26, 2025

What Are the Five Points of Calvinism? Reformation Bible College​

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What Are the Five Points of Calvinism? :: Reformation Bible College

One of the phrases readers commonly encounter in contemporary Reformed theological works is “the five points of Calvinism.” Often, the five points will be outlined through the use of the acronym TULIP. Each of the five letters in TULIP stands for one of the five points:

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[360watt]

Calvinism is meant be also teaching OSAS, but in reality it's only OSAS for those who have 'endured to the end'..so..it is actually works based.

It's like.. God chooses some.. those He chooses WILL get baptized..will be faithful..will attend church..will endure all things etc.

That's the impression I get of calvinism, of backloading works into salvation.

 

[Presby02]

Calvinism is meant be also teaching OSAS, but in reality it's only OSAS for those who have 'endured to the end'..so..it is actually works based.

It's like.. God chooses some.. those He chooses WILL get baptized..will be faithful..will attend church..will endure all things etc.

That's the impression I get of calvinism, of backloading works into salvation.

How does a Calvinist believe we will endure to the end???

 

[civic]

Calvinism is meant be also teaching OSAS, but in reality it's only OSAS for those who have 'endured to the end'..so..it is actually works based.

It's like.. God chooses some.. those He chooses WILL get baptized..will be faithful..will attend church..will endure all things etc.

That's the impression I get of calvinism, of backloading works into salvation.

So it’s not really faith alone

 

[Behold]

"endure to the end" of what?

Dont ask John Calvin, as He has no idea, nor do the Hyper Calvinism bible noobs who say you have to "endure to the end" to remain saved.


So, if we look at Matt 24, and realize that Jesus was a PROPHET... then we can simply understand what he is talking about., as He is speaking prophetically when He said....>>"endue to the end".

Now, endure to the end of what? Your bank account? Your Netflix subscription? Your patience? Your Marriage?

No..
Jesus had already explained the context of ""enduring to the end"... in previous verses, and the reason that most Christians who talk about this verse incorrectly is becasue you are not studying your bible, you are reading your stupid commentaries as if they are your bible, and some horrible teacher who wrote your commentaries doesn't know what they are talking about., so you are the same.

Its simple.
Jesus explained that there is going to be an "abomination of desolation".......so, He has now given you the context of His prophecy......as "The Tribulation period".....and then He says that you have to "endure to the END".......of THAT, if you want to be saved.
So, if you are in the Trib, then you are not born again, as the Born again are not in the Trib.
So, if you find yourself there, then you have to trust in Christ and "endure to the end".
Id pass on that if i were you, and trust in Christ instead, today, so that you dont have to "endure" to the end of anything.

Now, Heretics who dont read or study a NT, will tell you that you have to "endure to the end" .....to be saved, and they cant tell you what the 'end" is.... because their idiot commentary writer or there idiot website page that trained them to be a Bible moron.... didnt tell them.

But Jesus did tell you......and many dont realize it, becasue you didnt read the previous verses in Matt that told you the context.

Listen.......Study your bible !! Commentaries are not the bible.

 

[Red Baker]

@Behold would you like to debate me on this subject: Calvinism vs. Arminianism?

 

[Behold]

@Behold would you like to debate me on this subject: Calvinism vs. Arminianism?

Im neither of those.
Those are man made doctrines that many people are interested in , vs Studying Paul's Doctrine.

Carry on.

 

[Red Baker]

@Behold

Paul's Doctrine.

Like what? What did Paul believe concerning soteriology?

 

[Behold]

@Behold

Like what? What did Paul believe concerning soteriology?

""" the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; ""

= "The Preaching of the Cross".
= " We preach Christ Crucified".
="But as many as received Him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name""" ""

This..
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For I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ and him crucified.

New Living Translation
For I decided that while I was with you I would forget everything except Jesus Christ, the one who was crucified.

English Standard Version
For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ and him crucified.

Berean Standard Bible
For I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ and Him crucified.

Berean Literal Bible
For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ and Him having been crucified.

King James Bible
For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.

New King James Version
For I determined not to know anything among you except Jesus Christ and Him crucified.

New American Standard Bible
For I determined to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ, and Him crucified.

NASB 1995
For I determined to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ, and Him crucified.

NASB 1977
For I determined to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ, and Him crucified.

Legacy Standard Bible
For I determined to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ, and Him crucified.

Amplified Bible
for I made the decision to know nothing [that is, to forego philosophical or theological discussions regarding inconsequential things and opinions while] among you except Jesus Christ, and Him crucified [and the meaning of His redemptive, substitutionary death and His resurrection].

 

[360watt]

How does a Calvinist believe we will endure to the end???

Perseverance of the Saints.. doesn't really mean once saved always saved.. but that who God chooses WILL be continously faithful.

If it is about OSAS.. it should be Preservation of the Saved. Some saved people are not actually continuously faithful.

That does not mean they were never saved in the first place. God doesn't choose only those He knows in advance will be faithful.

Salvation by grace through faith in Jesus.. that is eternal, unchanging. Ephesians 2:8-9, John 3:16, 3:36, 5:24, 6:40, 10:28 etc..

 

[360watt]

"endure to the end" of what?

Dont ask John Calvin, as He has no idea, nor do the Hyper Calvinism bible noobs who say you have to "endure to the end" to remain saved.


So, if we look at Matt 24, and realize that Jesus was a PROPHET... then we can simply understand what he is talking about., as He is speaking prophetically when He said....>>"endue to the end".

Now, endure to the end of what? Your bank account? Your Netflix subscription? Your patience? Your Marriage?

No..
Jesus had already explained the context of ""enduring to the end"... in previous verses, and the reason that most Christians who talk about this verse incorrectly is becasue you are not studying your bible, you are reading your stupid commentaries as if they are your bible, and some horrible teacher who wrote your commentaries doesn't know what they are talking about., so you are the same.

Its simple.
Jesus explained that there is going to be an "abomination of desolation".......so, He has now given you the context of His prophecy......as "The Tribulation period".....and then He says that you have to "endure to the END".......of THAT, if you want to be saved.
So, if you are in the Trib, then you are not born again, as the Born again are not in the Trib.
So, if you find yourself there, then you have to trust in Christ and "endure to the end".
Id pass on that if i were you, and trust in Christ instead, today, so that you dont have to "endure" to the end of anything.

Now, Heretics who dont read or study a NT, will tell you that you have to "endure to the end" .....to be saved, and they cant tell you what the 'end" is.... because their idiot commentary writer or there idiot website page that trained them to be a Bible moron.... didnt tell them.

But Jesus did tell you......and many dont realize it, becasue you didnt read the previous verses in Matt that told you the context.

Listen.......Study your bible !! Commentaries are not the bible.

I also wonder whether endure to the end and you will be 'saved' here .. is not about eternal salvation, but earthly deliverance.

 

[360watt]

So it’s not really faith alone

Its the impression I get of calvinism, but it's not overtly said like that by calvinists

 

[atpollard]

How does a Calvinist believe we will endure to the end???

Like this?

1 John 2:15-25 [ESV]

15 Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 16 For all that is in the world--the desires of the flesh and the desires of the eyes and pride of life--is not from the Father but is from the world. 17 And the world is passing away along with its desires, but whoever does the will of God abides forever. ​

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18 Children, it is the last hour, and as you have heard that antichrist is coming, so now many antichrists have come. Therefore we know that it is the last hour. 19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us. 20 But you have been anointed by the Holy One, and you all have knowledge. 21 I write to you, not because you do not know the truth, but because you know it, and because no lie is of the truth. 22 Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, he who denies the Father and the Son. 23 No one who denies the Son has the Father. Whoever confesses the Son has the Father also. 24 Let what you heard from the beginning abide in you. If what you heard from the beginning abides in you, then you too will abide in the Son and in the Father. 25 And this is the promise that he made to us--eternal life.​

 

[Red Baker]

@360watt

That's the impression I get of calvinism, of backloading works into salvation.

The same offer is to you:

@Behold would you like to debate me on this subject: Calvinism vs. Arminianism?

 

[360watt]

@360watt

The same offer is to you:

Im no debater. I don't know debating rules.

Often an argument is won just because one side didn't present well enough..despite that side having the truth about a doctrine. No thanks.

 

[Presby02]

So it’s not really faith alone

You can throw in grace to. "You are saved BY GRACE through faith"........

 

[Red Baker]

Im no debater. I don't know debating rules.

Often an argument is won just because one side didn't present well enough..despite that side having the truth about a doctrine. No thanks.

I understand~A very humble, godly confession. Thank you for your response.

 

[praise_yeshua]

Im no debater. I don't know debating rules.

Often an argument is won just because one side didn't present well enough..despite that side having the truth about a doctrine. No thanks.

Debate can be learned. It just takes effort and dedication.

Debate is essential in this life. Debate changes things.