Calvinism makes man a new creation apart from Christ

[brightfame52]

Your failure to address this belies your claim

https://berean-apologetics.communit...ew-creation-apart-from-christ.1488/post-75949

Its plain as the noon day sun, with Apostolic authority, faith is not of ourselves, its of Grace Eph 2:8

8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

So dont tell me you believe the word of God, because you dont.

 

[TomL]

Its plain as the noon day sun, with Apostolic authority, faith is not of ourselves, its of Grace Eph 2:8

8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

So dont tell me you believe the word of God, because you dont.

Your failure to address this belies your claim

https://berean-apologetics.communit...ew-creation-apart-from-christ.1488/post-75949

 

[brightfame52]

Your failure to address this belies your claim

https://berean-apologetics.communit...ew-creation-apart-from-christ.1488/post-75949

Its plain as the noon day sun, with Apostolic authority, faith is not of ourselves, its of Grace Eph 2:8

8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

So dont tell me you believe the word of God, because you dont.

 

[TomL]

Its plain as the noon day sun, with Apostolic authority, faith is not of ourselves, its of Grace Eph 2:8

8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

So dont tell me you believe the word of God, because you dont.

Your failure to address this belies your claim

https://berean-apologetics.communit...ew-creation-apart-from-christ.1488/post-75949

Paul elaborated, And this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God. Much debate has centered around the demonstrative pronoun “this” (touto). Though some think it refers back to “grace” and others to “faith,” neither of these suggestions is really valid because the demonstrative pronoun is neuter whereas “grace” and “faith” are feminine. Also, to refer back to either of these words specifically seems to be redundant. Rather the neuter touto, as is common, refers to the preceding phrase or clause. (In Eph. 1:15 and 3:1 touto, “this,” refers back to the preceding section.) Thus it refers back to the concept of salvation (2:4–8a), whose basis is grace and means is faith. This salvation does not have its source in man (it is “not from yourselves”), but rather, its source is God’s grace for “it is the gift of God.”

Harold W. Hoehner, “Ephesians,” in The Bible Knowledge Commentary: An Exposition of the Scriptures (ed. J. F. Walvoord and R. B. Zuck; vol. 2; Wheaton, IL: Victor Books, 1985), 2624.

 

[brightfame52]

Paul knew Faith in Christ was the Gift of God since He Thanked God for it, Col 1:3-4

3 We give thanks to God and the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, praying always for you,

4 Since we heard of your faith in Christ Jesus, and of the love which ye have to all the saints,

 

[TomL]

Paul knew Faith in Christ was the Gift of God since He Thanked God for it, Col 1:3-4

3 We give thanks to God and the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, praying always for you,

4 Since we heard of your faith in Christ Jesus, and of the love which ye have to all the saints,

Eisegesis

 

[brightfame52]

Eisegesis

Huh ?

 

[TomL]

Huh ?

Just as I figured