Behind Enemy Lines

[civic]

Do you love the Muslims @civic? If you tell me that you don’t then I haven’t understood a word that you’ve said.

Is trinitarianism the spiritual friend of Islam?

No. Trinitarianism is not the spiritual friend of Islam. You know it. The Muslims know it.

By the same token, Islam is not the spiritual friend of trinitarianism. They know it. You now it. Anyone who doesn’t know it doesn’t know much of anything about Islam.

God so loved the world- Is that in your bible ?
He is the propitiation for our sin and not ours only but the sins of the whole world. is that in your bible
God came to save sinners ? is that in your bible
God is love. is that in your bible ?

do you even believe the bible ?

 

[Matthias]

God so loved the world- Is that in your bible ?
He is the propitiation for our sin and not ours only but the sins of the whole world. is that in your bible
God came to save sinners ? is that in your bible
God is love. is that in your bible ?

do you even believe the bible ?

I believe the Bible. I don’t believe your trinitarian understanding of the Bible.

Let’s say for the sake of discussion that I told you that I don’t believe the Bible. Were I to do that, would it enable you to see that we are not spiritual friends? Would it enable you to see that we are spiritual enemies?

 

[Matthias]

I quote the bible …

I also quote the Bible. That doesn’t make us spiritual friends.

….and can care less about your appeal to authority fallacious arguments. Let me know when you can discuss the bible. I have been asking that for sometime now.

When you discuss the Bible with others face to face, in person, not on an Internet forum or via an email - do you do it the way you do it on this forum?

Do you attempt to drown them out with messages which are so long that they aren’t even listened to?

 

[civic]

I believe the Bible. I don’t believe your trinitarian understanding of the Bible.

Let’s say for the sake of discussion that I told you that I don’t believe the Bible. Were I to do that, would it enable you to see that we are not spiritual friends? Would it enable you to see that we are spiritual enemies?

Everyone is created in the image of God and has worth to Christ. He died for all sin. God called the sinners not the righteous.

 

[Matthias]

Everyone is created in the image of God and has worth to Christ. He died for all sin. God called the sinners not the righteous.

* Touchdown Kentucky *

Agreed.

Go ahead thinking that this point of agreement makes me your spiritual friend. There’s apparently nothing that I can say that will cause you to change your mind.

 

[civic]

* Touchdown Kentucky *

Agreed.

Go ahead thinking that this point of agreement makes me your spiritual friend. There’s apparently nothing that I can say that will cause you to change your mind.

Thats because I have the mind of Christ set on the Spirit not on the flesh, the carnal mind.

 

[civic]

* Touchdown Kentucky *

Agreed.

Go ahead thinking that this point of agreement makes me your spiritual friend. There’s apparently nothing that I can say that will cause you to change your mind.

And even if you were my enemy by chance Jesus says to pray for my enemies and to love my enemies. not condemn them. I follow Christ not you or your ideas about Him. He is my Lord, Master, God and Savior so I follow what He tells me to do and how to treat people.

1 Corinthians 16:14
And do everything with love.

 

[Matthias]

Thats because I have the mind of Christ set on the Spirit not on the flesh, the carnal mind.

* Another touchdown, Kentucky *

How do you explain your fellow trinitarians then? They have no problem understanding that I’m not their spiritual friend and that they aren’t my spiritual friends.

 

[civic]

* Another touchdown, Kentucky *

How do you explain your fellow trinitarians then? They have no problem understanding that I’m not their spiritual friend and that they aren’t my spiritual friends.

I’m not my brothers keeper.

 

[Matthias]

And even if you were my enemy by chance …

I’m the enemy of all idolaters.

I don’t know why you’re unable to see it but idolaters aren’t your spiritual friends; they’re your spiritual enemies.

… Jesus says to pray for my enemies and to love my enemies. not condemn them. I follow Christ not you or your ideas about Him. He is my Lord, Master, God and Savior so I follow what He tells me to do and how to treat people.

1 Corinthians 16:14
And do everything with love.

I pray for idolaters. You should too.

 

[Matthias]

I’m not my brothers keeper.

You should be. Instead you would let him stumble in the darkness.

 

[civic]

I’m the enemy of all idolaters.

I don’t know why you’re unable to see it but idolaters aren’t your spiritual friends; they’re your spiritual enemies.




I pray for idolaters. You should too.

We are to pray for all men regardless of their beliefs or stature in society.

 

[civic]

You should be. Instead you would let him stumble in the darkness.

Nope this forum is not the church.

I disciple men and lead home groups and have accountability in my church.

So I correct when necessary.

 

[Matthias]

We are to pray for all men regardless of their beliefs or stature in society.

That’s my belief too.

 

[civic]

In the essentials unity
In the non essentials liberty
In all things charity

This is my motto and what I practice along with the golden rule here.

 

[Matthias]

Nope this forum is not the church.

I disciple men and lead home groups and have accountability in my church.

So I correct when necessary.

Your fellow trinitarians have the spirit of trinitarianism. Whatever else might be said about them, they know that anti-trinitarianism isn’t their spiritual friend.

 

[Matthias]

In the essentials unity
In the non essentials liberty
In all things charity

This is my motto and what I practice along with the golden rule here.

* Yet another touchdown, Kentucky *

If only your spiritual forefathers had had that motto and practice, Church history would look nothing like what it does.

 

[civic]

Your fellow trinitarians have the spirit of trinitarianism. Whatever else might be said about them, they know that anti-trinitarianism isn’t their spiritual friend.

You always divert the conversation and the context of scripture.

You are talking to me not them, you are talking to me not some ECF or other theologian or pastor. I'm having the one on one conversation with you not anyone else. SO I don't care what anyone else says or thinks since I'm discussing the bible with you, no one else.

 

[civic]

* Yet another touchdown, Kentucky *

If only your spiritual forefathers had had that motto and practice, Church history would look nothing like what it does.

On this we find agreement and this works both ways. Its not a one way street.

 

[Matthias]

You always divert the conversation and the context of scripture.

smh

You are talking to me not them, you are talking to me not some ECF or other theologian or pastor. I'm having the one on one conversation with you not anyone else. SO I don't care what anyone else says or thinks since I'm discussing the bible with you, no one else.

I’m talking directly to you and indirectly to them. And others.