Matthias
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I don’t know that. Jesus is the judge.
As I’ve told you, I believe in the wider hope.
My position on idolaters is that they should repent of their idolatry.
Behind Enemy Lines
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I don’t know that. Jesus is the judge.
As I’ve told you, I believe in the wider hope.
My position on idolaters is that they should repent of their idolatry.
civic
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that idolators who worship false gods are saved. another oxymoron. you are inconsistent with your beliefs and they go against the clear biblical teaching on idolators who worship false gods. God had them stoned in the OT. Jesus places them in the lake of fire in the N.T.
civic
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Rev 22:15
Outside are the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.
1 Corinthians 6:9
Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who submit to or perform homosexual acts
Outside are the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.
1 Corinthians 6:9
Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who submit to or perform homosexual acts
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Matthias
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The second resurrection will be filled with people who never heard of Jesus of Nazareth, or only heard of a Jesus who is a counterfeit. There will also be those there who did hear about the real Jesus and refused to believe.
Jesus of Nazareth - not the second person of the Trinity - will decide what to do with each one of them, on a case by case basis.
Matthias
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Serious business. That’s why I call upon idolaters to repent of their idolatry.
I urge all trinitarians to repent of their idolatry.
A Jewish monotheist on a trinitarian forum. A man behind enemy lines.
civic
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Nope another made up false doctrine from you. It’s appointed once for man to die and face judgement. No second chances as per Romans 1. God has made Himself known to everyone so that all are without excuse.
Matthias
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The wider hope is not a second chance.
civic
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there is no hope for salvation after death thats your unbiblical teaching on the topic
Matthias
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You’re not the man whom the one God has appointed to judge those who never heard of Jesus but lived like they had.
civic
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I have scripture that refutes your unbiblical view that I posted and you avoided dealing with as usual and diverted the topic all together.
Matthias
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I’m aware of your claims. (I made them myself when I was a trinitarian.)
I’m a Jewish monotheist on a trinitarian forum. Do you still think I’m not behind my spiritual enemy’s lines?
civic
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Jews are not my enemies they are Gods chosen people.
Matthias
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God’s chosen people are beating the gehenna out of your idolatry.
Do you view me as your spiritual friend?
civic
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I do and I did but you are the one making things hostile, not me.
Matthias
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Then you’ve evaluated the situation incorrectly. No one who believes the Trinity is an idol is your spiritual friend.
Aren’t you the same person who said that I must have failed a seminary class?
Jewish monotheism is hostile to trinitarianism.
civic
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if you failed to read the bible objectively without presuppositions then you sure did fail Hermeneutics 101.
That is just a given and a common sense conclusion. Its just basic Exegesis 101.
Matthias
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Everyone reads scripture with presuppositions. Not everyone reads scripture objectively.
I didn’t fail any of my classes. I didn’t receive any final grade lower than an A.
civic
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Then you do not understand hermenuetics since you read unitarianism into the bible. Nor are you able to be objective with the exegetical steps in any passage regarding Christ. You read your presuppositions into every text which is eisegesis by definition.
Matthias
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civic
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I'm very sad to here you have left sound teaching, biblical hermenuetics and exegesis in exchange for eisegesis- reading your own ideas and beliefs into Scripture. That sounds like apostasy.
Weren't you a former Trinitarian back then ?
