An Article on free will
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brightfame52
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None of those verses say man has spiritual ability. Nothing is said about them being able to believe spiritually, they cant.
Brightfame52 cannot address the issues with his/her theology
How were these able to believe
Luke 8:13 (LEB) — 13 And those on the rock are those who receive the word with joy when they hear it, and these do not have enough root, who believe for a time and in a time of testing fall away.
and why it was necessary to harden these so they do not believe
John 12:40 (LEB) — 40 “He has blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts, lest they see with their eyes and understand with their hearts and turn, and I heal them.”
You never address the issues
brightfame52
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None of those verses say man has spiritual ability. Nothing is said about them being able to believe spiritually, they cant.
The entire OT is a testament to the many OT saints that had spiritual abilities. That's because Pentecost (Regeneration) happened only in NT times, not before. There is no record of any Pentecost, personal or collective, in the OT.
Brightfame52 cannot address the issues with his/her theology
How were these able to believe
Luke 8:13 (LEB) — 13 And those on the rock are those who receive the word with joy when they hear it, and these do not have enough root, who believe for a time and in a time of testing fall away.
and why it was necessary to harden these so they do not believe
John 12:40 (LEB) — 40 “He has blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts, lest they see with their eyes and understand with their hearts and turn, and I heal them.”
You never address the issues
brightfame52
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Nobody by nature has spiritual abilities, they dead spiritually, dead in sin. It was OT times when David wrote this Ps 14:1-3
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
2 The Lord looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God.
3 They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
Your self-willed (2 Peter 2:9-10) interpretation adulterates the Holy Scripture as evidenced through your own writings recorded in your post to which God causes me to respond now:
| The Book of civic | The Book of Genesis | |
| Then the LORD said, “My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, because he also is flesh with a free-will to choose Me and the ability to resist My grace which I give to all mankind; nevertheless his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.” (civic 6:3) | Then YHWH said, “My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, because he also is flesh; nevertheless his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.” (Genesis 6:3) |
According to your preaching, man controls the Love of God, yet Apostolic testimony is "the Love of Christ controls us" Christians (2 Corinthians 5:14) - a blessed Apostolic testimony in the Holy Spirit.
Your testimony is man earns the unearned Love of God because man chooses the Love of God.
This post is an integral continuation with:
- post #5,018 - Evaluated Your Conclusion That God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
- post #5,019 - Your Adulteration of Matthew 22:3 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
- post #5,024 - Your Destruction of Jerusalem, Jerusalem in Matthew 23:37 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
- post #5,026 - Hebrews 6:4-8 Exposes The Impossibility Of A Christian To Expose The Christ To Public Shame Despite Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
- post #5,031 - You Declare The Almighty God Is Miserably Weak Per Your Heart's Rendition Of Luke 19:41 For Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
- post #5,036 - You fallen away from God's Grace is not you fallen out of God's Grace in Galatians 5:4-7, so your self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is resistible and earnable fails to be your proof.
- post #5,045 - You believe Lord Jesus, who is Love, fails by your quoting of Hebrews 12:14-15 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
- post #5,078 - You believe Almighty God, who is Love, fails by your quoting of 2 Corinthians 6:1 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
- post #5,105 - Your perverted a warning into a binding judgment in Hebrews 10:29 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
- post #5,132 - Your heart adulterates Hebrews 12:25's word "warns" into the word "condemns" As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
Your heart makes false statements about God and man. Free-will is a conjured concept of the traditions of men (Matthew 15:9).
In Truth (John 14:6), the Almighty God is Sovereign (Genesis 1:1) in man's salvation and affairs of man (Daniel 4:34-35)! PRAISE THE SOVEREIGN KING JESUS CHRIST!!!
brightfame52
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None of those verses say man has spiritual ability. Nothing is said about them being able to believe spiritually, they cant. There are no issues
civic
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your fatalism began with the father of your religion augustine who married paganism( fatalism ) with Christianity. Then your more modern father of your religion calvin took it to a new level of fatalism which you espouse.
civic
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This thread exposes your heretical views
Brightfame52 cannot address the issues with his/her theology
How were these able to believe
Luke 8:13 (LEB) — 13 And those on the rock are those who receive the word with joy when they hear it, and these do not have enough root, who believe for a time and in a time of testing fall away.
and why it was necessary to harden these so they do not believe
John 12:40 (LEB) — 40 “He has blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts, lest they see with their eyes and understand with their hearts and turn, and I heal them.”
You never address the issues
brightfame52
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None of those verses say man has spiritual ability. Nothing is said about them being able to believe spiritually, they cant. There are no issues
Why would God have to look if all people had no spiritual abilities to begin with???? God had to convince himself that Calvinism is true????
brightfame52
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Nobody by nature has spiritual abilities, they dead spiritually, dead in sin. It was OT times when David wrote this Ps 14:1-3Why would God have to look if all people had no spiritual abilities to begin with???? God had to convince himself that Calvinism is true????
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
2 The Lord looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God.
3 They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
Brightfame52 cannot address the issues with his/her theology
How were these able to believe
Luke 8:13 (LEB) — 13 And those on the rock are those who receive the word with joy when they hear it, and these do not have enough root, who believe for a time and in a time of testing fall away.
and why it was necessary to harden these so they do not believe
John 12:40 (LEB) — 40 “He has blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts, lest they see with their eyes and understand with their hearts and turn, and I heal them.”
You never address the issues
brightfame52
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None of those verses say man has spiritual ability. Nothing is said about them being able to believe spiritually, they cant. There are no issues
civic
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Dodging all the scriptures which is 99% that contradict his theology
civic
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Yes
