A super important teaching from Jesus

Sorry i don't open links. (Moffatt, Goodspeed and Schoenfield) used was divine, not calling him God, they knew he was not God.
Your loss … it is a short video that is both HILARIOUS and educational.
However, remaining in ignorance IS your right … so have at it.

PS. Peter, John and Thomas called Him God and worshipped Him, so they knew He WAS God (and raising himself from the dead was a bit of a giveaway). [John 10:18].
 
Your loss … it is a short video that is both HILARIOUS and educational.
However, remaining in ignorance IS your right … so have at it.

PS. Peter, John and Thomas called Him God and worshipped Him, so they knew He WAS God (and raising himself from the dead was a bit of a giveaway). [John 10:18].
Error filled trinity translation gave worship to one who has a God( Psalm 45:7, John 20:17, Rev 3:12)--the same Greek word used for worship to God also translates-obeisance to a king. Jesus is Gods appointed king, thus obeisance is the correct usage for him.
John never called Jesus God. He would have contradicted Jesus=John 17:3--In prayer to his Father in heaven, Jesus tells all his Father is THE ONLY TRUE GOD. John knew this well and would never contradict Jesus. The darkness contradicts Jesus. Trinity translations have contradictions.
As well Paul warned all EVERY other God is false then named only the Father as God=1Cor 8:5-6
 
The above quote is from a Incorrect person (Edit by admin) because you are the one who asserted, "The word is NOT called capitol G God in the Greek lexicons at John 1:1" in post 14, and when proven wrong you double down in your arrogance/delusion.

Pathetic.

Thanks for making that easy for me.
You didn't prove me wrong. I am telling you 100% fact-your trinity scholars know 100% the word is not called capitol G God at John 1:1 in the Greek lexicons. The translating at 2 Cor 4:4 proves it fact. Every trinitarian on Gods earth is being mislead to not enter Gods kingdom out of their Catholicism translating.
 
You didn't prove me wrong. I am telling you 100% fact-your trinity scholars know 100% the word is not called capitol G God at John 1:1 in the Greek lexicons. The translating at 2 Cor 4:4 proves it fact. Every trinitarian on Gods earth is being mislead to not enter Gods kingdom out of their Catholicism translating.
Oh brother... what a load of steer manure.
 
You didn't prove me wrong. I am telling you 100% fact-your trinity scholars know 100% the word is not called capitol G God at John 1:1 in the Greek lexicons. The translating at 2 Cor 4:4 proves it fact. Every trinitarian on Gods earth is being mislead to not enter Gods kingdom out of their Catholicism translating.
It is hard to prove someone wrong when they have their fingers in their ears so they don’t have to listen to anything that anyone says. :cool:
 
Let’s see … Branch Davidian, Hari Krishna, Mormon, and 17 revisions of the JW Bible?
Not quite--In 1822 a Greek scholar named Abner Kneeland translated the NT from the Greek lexicons, in his translation he compared Greek to English side by side to prove to the world a god is correct.
New Test an improved version-1808=a god.
Literal trans of NT-1863= a god
Concise commentary-1885( Young)= a god
(there are 3.)
All translations with a god were rejected by trinity clergy's thus not used.
Mormons serve a trinity god.
Israelite religion-NEVER served the true God as or knew him as a trinity, Thus its 100% fact that when Jesus and every bible writer attended that religion were taught, served and worshipped the Abrahamic God= a single being God= YHVH(Jehovah)
 
Not quite--In 1822 a Greek scholar named Abner Kneeland translated the NT from the Greek lexicons, in his translation he compared Greek to English side by side to prove to the world a god is correct.
New Test an improved version-1808=a god.
Literal trans of NT-1863= a god
Concise commentary-1885( Young)= a god
(there are 3.)
All translations with a god were rejected by trinity clergy's thus not used.
Mormons serve a trinity god.
Israelite religion-NEVER served the true God as or knew him as a trinity, Thus its 100% fact that when Jesus and every bible writer attended that religion were taught, served and worshipped the Abrahamic God= a single being God= YHVH(Jehovah)
New Testament an Improved version (1808)
I found a copy [link] and it is a Unitarian correction to the Newcomb Bible. Reading the notes on John 1, it clearly explains that it corrected the translation to reflect the reality that Jesus was 100% man and all divine titles in scripture are mere honorific. He in no way, shape or form existed prior to his birth.​
1 THE Word* was in the beginningfj and the Word was
2 with God|. and the Word was a god ft- This Word was
3 in the beginning with God ||. All things were done by
* T/ieJVort/.^ " Jesus is so called, because God revealed himself, or his word, by him." Ncwcome. The same title is piven to Christ, Luke i. 2. For the same reason he is called the Word of" life, 1 John i. 1. which passage is so clear aiid useful a comment upon the proem to the fjospel, that it may be proper to cite the whole of it. "That which was from the begiimin^, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled of the Word of life ; for the Life w&s wmufested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and show unto you, that eternal Life which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us ; that which we have seen and heard, declare we unto you." By a similar metonymy Christ b called the Life, the Lie;ht, the Way, the Truth, and the ResuiTCCtion. See Cappe's Dissert, vol. i. p. 19.​
fin the beginning.^ Or, from the first, i.e. from the commencement of the gospel dispensation, or of the ministry of Christ. This is the usual sense of the word in the writings of this evangelist. John \'i. 64, Jesus knew from the beginning, or from the first ; ch. xv. 27, ye liave been with me from the beginning. See ch. xvi. 14 ; ii. 24 ; iii. 11 ; also 1 John i. 1 ; ii. 7, 8; 2 John 6, 7. Nor is this sense of the word uncommon ill other passages of the New Testament. 2 Thess. ii. 13 ; Phil. iv. 15 ; Luke i. 2.​
i the Wortl was with God.l He withdrew from the world to commune with God, and to receive divine ulstructions and qualifications previously to his public ministiy. As IMoses was with God in the mount, Exod. xxxiv.2S, so was Christ in the wilderness, or elsewhere, to be instructed and disciplined forliis high and important office. See Cappe, ibid. p. 22.​
tt and the Word was a god.'] " was God," Newcome. Jesus received a commission as a prophet of the Most High, and was invested with extraordinaiy miraculous powers. But, in the Jewish plu'aseolog)-, they were called gods to w horn the \vo«l of God came. .Tohn X. 35. So Moses is declared to be a god to Pharoah. Exod. vii. 1. Some translate the passage, God was the Woi-d. q. d. it was not so properly he that spake to men, as God that spake to them by him. Cappe, ibid. See John x. 30, compared with xvii. 8, 11, 16 ; iii. ."4 ; v. 23 ; xii. 44. Crellius conjectured that the true reading was 0£y) the Word was God's, q. d. the first teacher of the gospel derived his commission from God. But this conjecture, however plausible, rests upon no authority.​
D wasin the beginmng with Gorl.'] Before he entered upon his ministry he was fully in■-•tructed, bv intercoursg with God. in the nature and extent of his commission.​
  • (Sorry for the text quality, it is a machine scan to text, but you can follow the link to read the original scanned image)
[nice foundation you chose to build upon]


John 1:1-5 [Young’s Literal Translation]
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God; 2 this one was in the beginning with God; 3 all things through him did happen, and without him happened not even one thing that hath happened. 4 In him was life, and the life was the light of men, 5 and the light in the darkness did shine, and the darkness did not perceive it.
(I just checked the first ACTUAL translation on your list that I could identify.)
 
New Testament an Improved version (1808)
I found a copy [link] and it is a Unitarian correction to the Newcomb Bible. Reading the notes on John 1, it clearly explains that it corrected the translation to reflect the reality that Jesus was 100% man and all divine titles in scripture are mere honorific. He in no way, shape or form existed prior to his birth.​
1 THE Word* was in the beginningfj and the Word was
2 with God|. and the Word was a god ft- This Word was
3 in the beginning with God ||. All things were done by
* T/ieJVort/.^ " Jesus is so called, because God revealed himself, or his word, by him." Ncwcome. The same title is piven to Christ, Luke i. 2. For the same reason he is called the Word of" life, 1 John i. 1. which passage is so clear aiid useful a comment upon the proem to the fjospel, that it may be proper to cite the whole of it. "That which was from the begiimin^, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled of the Word of life ; for the Life w&s wmufested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and show unto you, that eternal Life which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us ; that which we have seen and heard, declare we unto you." By a similar metonymy Christ b called the Life, the Lie;ht, the Way, the Truth, and the ResuiTCCtion. See Cappe's Dissert, vol. i. p. 19.​
fin the beginning.^ Or, from the first, i.e. from the commencement of the gospel dispensation, or of the ministry of Christ. This is the usual sense of the word in the writings of this evangelist. John \'i. 64, Jesus knew from the beginning, or from the first ; ch. xv. 27, ye liave been with me from the beginning. See ch. xvi. 14 ; ii. 24 ; iii. 11 ; also 1 John i. 1 ; ii. 7, 8; 2 John 6, 7. Nor is this sense of the word uncommon ill other passages of the New Testament. 2 Thess. ii. 13 ; Phil. iv. 15 ; Luke i. 2.​
i the Wortl was with God.l He withdrew from the world to commune with God, and to receive divine ulstructions and qualifications previously to his public ministiy. As IMoses was with God in the mount, Exod. xxxiv.2S, so was Christ in the wilderness, or elsewhere, to be instructed and disciplined forliis high and important office. See Cappe, ibid. p. 22.​
tt and the Word was a god.'] " was God," Newcome. Jesus received a commission as a prophet of the Most High, and was invested with extraordinaiy miraculous powers. But, in the Jewish plu'aseolog)-, they were called gods to w horn the \vo«l of God came. .Tohn X. 35. So Moses is declared to be a god to Pharoah. Exod. vii. 1. Some translate the passage, God was the Woi-d. q. d. it was not so properly he that spake to men, as God that spake to them by him. Cappe, ibid. See John x. 30, compared with xvii. 8, 11, 16 ; iii. ."4 ; v. 23 ; xii. 44. Crellius conjectured that the true reading was 0£y) the Word was God's, q. d. the first teacher of the gospel derived his commission from God. But this conjecture, however plausible, rests upon no authority.​
D wasin the beginmng with Gorl.'] Before he entered upon his ministry he was fully in■-•tructed, bv intercoursg with God. in the nature and extent of his commission.​
  • (Sorry for the text quality, it is a machine scan to text, but you can follow the link to read the original scanned image)
[nice foundation you chose to build upon]


John 1:1-5 [Young’s Literal Translation]
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God; 2 this one was in the beginning with God; 3 all things through him did happen, and without him happened not even one thing that hath happened. 4 In him was life, and the life was the light of men, 5 and the light in the darkness did shine, and the darkness did not perceive it.
(I just checked the first ACTUAL translation on your list that I could identify.)
In the Greek lexicons, there are 2 spots in NT that call 2 beings God or god. At John 1:1 and 2 Cor 4:4--At both spots the true God is called Ton Theon= God, the word and satan are called Theos to show a difference. The only difference is god. This is fact, its why unbias Greek scholars put a god at John 1:1.
 
In the Greek lexicons, there are 2 spots in NT that call 2 beings God or god. At John 1:1 and 2 Cor 4:4--At both spots the true God is called Ton Theon= God, the word and satan are called Theos to show a difference. The only difference is god. This is fact, its why unbias Greek scholars put a god at John 1:1.
When a form of the VERB "to be" links two nouns, both nouns are equal [as in "I AM Spartacus" where both I and Spartacus refer to the same thing. One is the SUBJECT and the other is the OBJECT of the verb. In ENGLISH, the SUBJECT is denoted by its placement BEFORE the verb. So "I am Spartacus" places "I" as the SUBJECT; "am" as the verb and "Spartacus" as the OBJECT. In Greek, subject and object are not identified by word order. For "to be verbs" (like IS or AM) the SUBJECT is the word (of the two identical things) that has "the" to identify it and the noun without "the" is the object. So in John 1:1 ... WORD and GOD are both nouns connected by a form of "to be" making them equal. One of them is the subject and gets the Greek "the"added in front and the other is the object and gets no "the" in front of it [Greek has no "a" to place in front of a word, like English does]. So THE WORD identifies WORD (Jesus) as the subject and GOD as the object of the verb "is" emphasizing JESUS equality with GOD, not claiming polytheism as you mistranslated it.

You will ignore this (as you ignore everything). It was presented for anyone that might be reading along and want the TRUTH.
 
When a form of the VERB "to be" links two nouns, both nouns are equal [as in "I AM Spartacus" where both I and Spartacus refer to the same thing. One is the SUBJECT and the other is the OBJECT of the verb. In ENGLISH, the SUBJECT is denoted by its placement BEFORE the verb. So "I am Spartacus" places "I" as the SUBJECT; "am" as the verb and "Spartacus" as the OBJECT. In Greek, subject and object are not identified by word order. For "to be verbs" (like IS or AM) the SUBJECT is the word (of the two identical things) that has "the" to identify it and the noun without "the" is the object. So in John 1:1 ... WORD and GOD are both nouns connected by a form of "to be" making them equal. One of them is the subject and gets the Greek "the"added in front and the other is the object and gets no "the" in front of it [Greek has no "a" to place in front of a word, like English does]. So THE WORD identifies WORD (Jesus) as the subject and GOD as the object of the verb "is" emphasizing JESUS equality with GOD, not claiming polytheism as you mistranslated it.

You will ignore this (as you ignore everything). It was presented for anyone that might be reading along and want the TRUTH.
You would have to give satan-God at 2 Cor 4:4 if you are correct, and all know 100% he is not God--god is correct for Theos when in same paragraph with Ton Theon. 0 doubt in all creation.
 
You would have to give satan-God at 2 Cor 4:4 if you are correct, and all know 100% he is not God--god is correct for Theos when in same paragraph with Ton Theon. 0 doubt in all creation.
Show me the form of “to be” (IS, WAS, AM) in 2 Corinthians 4:4 that makes Satan equal to God.
As I said, the rule applies to the verb “to be” where both nouns refer to the same thing and other methods cannot be used to denote the object. “Tou” otherwise just denotes the noun is the generative case (descriptive) rather than the nominative case (subject).


4:4 ἐν οἷς ὁ θεὸς (the subject: the god) τοῦ αἰῶνος (descriptive noun modifying “god”: of world) τούτου (descriptive pronoun modifying “world”: this) ἐτύφλωσεν (the verb: has blinded) τὰ νοήματα τῶν ἀπίστωνεἰς τὸ μὴ αὐγάσαι τὸν φωτισμὸν τοῦ εὐαγγελίου τῆς δόξης τοῦ Χριστοῦ ὅςἐστιν εἰκὼν τοῦ θεοῦ
 
Show me the form of “to be” (IS, WAS, AM) in 2 Corinthians 4:4 that makes Satan equal to God.
As I said, the rule applies to the verb “to be” where both nouns refer to the same thing and other methods cannot be used to denote the object. “Tou” otherwise just denotes the noun is the generative case (descriptive) rather than the nominative case (subject).


4:4 ἐν οἷς ὁ θεὸς (the subject: the god) τοῦ αἰῶνος (descriptive noun modifying “god”: of world) τούτου (descriptive pronoun modifying “world”: this) ἐτύφλωσεν (the verb: has blinded) τὰ νοήματα τῶν ἀπίστωνεἰς τὸ μὴ αὐγάσαι τὸν φωτισμὸν τοῦ εὐαγγελίου τῆς δόξης τοῦ Χριστοῦ ὅςἐστιν εἰκὼν τοῦ θεοῦ
Any one who understands English knows the following--If the word were capitol G God at John 1:1 then in plain English the second line would read--And God( word) was with God--how many Gods is that?
 
Any one who understands English knows the following--If the word were capitol G God at John 1:1 then in plain English the second line would read--And God( word) was with God--how many Gods is that?
Here, let me explain it for you …

That we worship one God in trinity and the trinity in unity,
neither blending their persons
nor dividing their essence.
For the person of the Father is a distinct person,
the person of the Son is another,
and that of the Holy Spirit still another.
But the divinity of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is one,
their glory equal, their majesty coeternal.

What quality the Father has, the Son has, and the Holy Spirit has.
The Father is uncreated,
the Son is uncreated,
the Holy Spirit is uncreated.

The Father is immeasurable,
the Son is immeasurable,
the Holy Spirit is immeasurable.

The Father is eternal,
the Son is eternal,
the Holy Spirit is eternal.

And yet there are not three eternal beings;
there is but one eternal being.
So too there are not three uncreated or immeasurable beings;
there is but one uncreated and immeasurable being.

Similarly, the Father is almighty,
the Son is almighty,
the Holy Spirit is almighty.
Yet there are not three almighty beings;
there is but one almighty being.

Thus the Father is God,
the Son is God,
the Holy Spirit is God.
Yet there are not three gods;
there is but one God.

Thus the Father is Lord,
the Son is Lord,
the Holy Spirit is Lord.
Yet there are not three lords;
there is but one Lord.

Just as Christian truth compels us
to confess each person individually
as both God and Lord,
so [universal] religion forbids us
to say that there are three gods or lords.

The Father was neither made nor created nor begotten from anyone.
The Son was neither made nor created;
he was begotten from the Father alone.
The Holy Spirit was neither made nor created nor begotten;
he proceeds from the Father and the Son.

Accordingly there is one Father, not three fathers;
there is one Son, not three sons;
there is one Holy Spirit, not three holy spirits.

Nothing in this trinity is before or after,
nothing is greater or smaller;
in their entirety the three persons
are coeternal and coequal with each other.

So in everything, as was said earlier,
we must worship their trinity in their unity
and their unity in their trinity.

Anyone then who desires to be saved
should think thus about the trinity.
 
Here, let me explain it for you …

That we worship one God in trinity and the trinity in unity,
neither blending their persons
nor dividing their essence.
For the person of the Father is a distinct person,
the person of the Son is another,
and that of the Holy Spirit still another.
But the divinity of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is one,
their glory equal, their majesty coeternal.

What quality the Father has, the Son has, and the Holy Spirit has.
The Father is uncreated,
the Son is uncreated,
the Holy Spirit is uncreated.

The Father is immeasurable,
the Son is immeasurable,
the Holy Spirit is immeasurable.

The Father is eternal,
the Son is eternal,
the Holy Spirit is eternal.

And yet there are not three eternal beings;
there is but one eternal being.
So too there are not three uncreated or immeasurable beings;
there is but one uncreated and immeasurable being.

Similarly, the Father is almighty,
the Son is almighty,
the Holy Spirit is almighty.
Yet there are not three almighty beings;
there is but one almighty being.

Thus the Father is God,
the Son is God,
the Holy Spirit is God.
Yet there are not three gods;
there is but one God.

Thus the Father is Lord,
the Son is Lord,
the Holy Spirit is Lord.
Yet there are not three lords;
there is but one Lord.

Just as Christian truth compels us
to confess each person individually
as both God and Lord,
so [universal] religion forbids us
to say that there are three gods or lords.

The Father was neither made nor created nor begotten from anyone.
The Son was neither made nor created;
he was begotten from the Father alone.
The Holy Spirit was neither made nor created nor begotten;
he proceeds from the Father and the Son.

Accordingly there is one Father, not three fathers;
there is one Son, not three sons;
there is one Holy Spirit, not three holy spirits.

Nothing in this trinity is before or after,
nothing is greater or smaller;
in their entirety the three persons
are coeternal and coequal with each other.

So in everything, as was said earlier,
we must worship their trinity in their unity
and their unity in their trinity.

Anyone then who desires to be saved
should think thus about the trinity.
Looks like you must understand English.
 
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