Matthew 6:33

[101G]

Jehovah does it all through Jesus, that is how both are said to have sent the angel. Jehovah sent it, and Jesus carries out all of his Fathers will. Thus is said to have sent it as well. All things originate from Jehovah's will.

LOL, LOL, LOL, Oh dear..... listen, Jehovah do not go through anyone because Jehovah is not REAL, that's a fake made up name by men. there is no Jehovah........ Only YESHUA/JESUS. listen and Learn, 1 Timothy 6:14 "That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:" 1 Timothy 6:15 "Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;" 1 Timothy 6:16 "Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen."

if the Lord Jesus is the ONLY, ONLY, ONLY, one who has "ETERNAL LIFE/IMMORTALITY"..... where do that leave your Jehovah? answer, no where, because he is a false god.

see, your own NWT LIED, it took out the Lord God and inserted the false Name Jehovah. when one add or take away from God holy Word, one put the spiritual noose around their own necks, as what happen here in Rev, 1:1, Rev 22:6 and Rev, 22:16.

now as for the people in Revelation as God, there is Only ONE PERSON, supportive scripture, Revelation 1:1 "The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:" Revelation 1:2 "Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw." Revelation 1:3 "Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand." Revelation 1:4 "John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;" Revelation 1:5 "And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,"

Keiw1, question is these three people this Revelation is from? LISTEN,
A. "from him which is, and which was, and which is to come". (the Father?)
B. "and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne" (the Holy Spirit?)
C. "And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness" (the Son?)

so, is these three separate people that this revelation from?

now Keiw1 before you answer, 101G is going to tell you the TRUTH,,,,, "THIS IS ONLY ONE PERSON.

101G.

 

[Wrangler]

you did not answer my Question is the Lord Jesus the KINGDOM of God? yes or no. that's all no other explanation needed.

thank you in Christ, looking for a Yes or No.

101G

No. A person his not a geographical area.

 

[Wrangler]

Best believe Jesus-John 20:17--He even stresses that fact 4 x in a single paragraph while back in heaven at Rev 3:12

A single sentence. In one sentence, the resurrected Jesus, sitting on YHWH’s throne in Heaven refers to his God, YHWH.

 

[Wrangler]

Jehovah do not go through anyone because Jehovah is not REAL, that's a fake made up name by men. there is no Jehovah........ Only YESHUA/JESUS.

Amazing anti-truth. An atheist statement.

 

[Complete]

Matt. 5: 17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Jesus walked in and taught the commandments of God, Yes? Is He not called the "Greatest" in the Kingdom of God?

The Laws of the Kingdom of God, that Jesus walked in and promoted, come from His Father and are given to us through the Law and Prophets. He was "perfect", not because HE created His Own Righteousness, Laws, Statutes, high days and judgments, as "many" who come in Christ's Name Preach, but because "he humbled himself to God, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross". At least this is what the Scriptures teach.

In the end of Matt. 5, the Jesus of the Bible said; "Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect." That is the Prize of the High calling of God, which was in Christ Jesus, Yes? Jesus wasn't perfect according to His Own standards, as "many" who call Him Lord, Lord preach. He was "Perfect" as defined by the Father. He is telling us to humble ourselves in the same manner, even as HE did.

So that is the context of the Sermon on the mount which continues in Matt. 6.

Context is important.



He didn't rebuke "care", He said His Father knows they "Have Need" of these things. He is simply telling them to place their "Care" on His Father, in Faith. As it is also written;

1 Pet. 5: 6 Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time: 7 Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you.



He didn't "rebuke fear" here, HE rebuked the Storm. This context is so important. He asked them "why" they feared the Storm? God gives men fear, fear is good. The Jesus "of the bible" tells men flat out.

Luke 12: 4 And I say unto you my friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do. 5 But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.

So then I should direct my Fear, that God gave me, towards His Father, the One True God. Not towards the storms of this life, or the "many" religions who call Him Lord, Lord, that tell me what I can eat, what I am to drink, what to "Put on" or wrap myself in.




Matt. 14: 30 But when he saw the wind boisterous, he was afraid; and beginning to sink, he cried, saying, Lord, save me. 31 And immediately Jesus stretched forth his hand, and caught him, and said unto him, O thou of little faith, wherefore didst thou doubt?

Again, Jesus isn't rebuking Peter's doubt here, but asking him to consider "Why" he doubted. And in doing so Peter would learn that it wasn't the Storm that caused the doubt, but his belief was lacking. And He would then Pray to the Father, "Help me in my unbelief".

Matt. 16:8 Which when Jesus perceived, he said unto them, O ye of little faith, why reason ye among yourselves, because ye have brought no bread? 9 Do ye not yet understand, neither remember the five loaves of the five thousand, and how many baskets ye took up? 10 Neither the seven loaves of the four thousand, and how many baskets ye took up?

Jesus didn't rebuke the "reasoning here". Their reasoning was the right thing to do. But in their reasoning, they forgot about, or didn't consider the Miracles HE had already performed before them. So HE reminded them of what they should have remembered on their own, and spelled out what they should have understood, by asking them "WHY" didn't they understand.

11 How is it that ye do not understand that I spake it not to you concerning bread, (That your heavenly Father knows you have need of) that ye should beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees? (Mainstream religions of that time, "Who professed to know God".

12 Then understood they how that he bade them not beware of the leaven of bread, but of the "doctrine" of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees. (Mainstream religions of that time)



Yes, context is very important.

Matt. 6: 1 Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven. 2 Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. 3 But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth: 4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.

5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. 6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly. 7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

8 "Be not ye therefore like unto them": for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.

Men are to be "Learned of the Father", not the "many" who call Him Lord, Lord in the manmade shrines of worship located in every town, or the "Many" men who come in His Name ordained by the various religious sects and businesses of this world God placed us in.

Keiw1 is right to recognize and believe the Words of the Jesus of the Bible regarding who "HE" says to Seek, Worship and Know in order to find what to eat, what to drink and what to "Put on". And truly, this understanding will be unpopular today with this world's religions, as it was in the day Jesus spoke them.




Men then, those who "saith he abideth in him" ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

Because there are "Many" according to scriptures, who disguise themselves as Apostles of Christ, but are not, Jesus said we will know them by their works. Paul says "They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate."

Therefore, as my Lord and Savior instructs, Matt. 6: 33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

But who really believes?

In the verses leading up to this verse, the Lord uses the words, 'O ye of little faith' (v.30). This word (Gr. oligopistos) , is used four times: Here, rebuking 'care'; In (8:26) it is rebuking 'fear'; in (14:31), rebuking 'doubt'; and in (16:8) it is rebuking 'reasoning'. Then follows the verse you highlight (above).

'(For after all these things do the Gentiles seek
for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.
But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and His righteousness;
and all these things shall be added unto you.'
(Mat 6:32-33)

Hello @Studyman,

Thank you for addressing reply 6, in relation to the quote (above), but, though I thank you for expressing your difference of opinion regarding Matthew 6:30; 8:26; 14:31 & 16:8,in relation to 'care', 'fear', 'doubt' and 'reasoning'. I must stand by what I said in reply 6. For it is those four adverse responses of the flesh, which are detrimental to faith, and can be tools in the enemies hands against our Christian walk of faith.

Examples come to mind from the Old Testament in regard to this, first of all in regard to God's words to Jeremiah in chapter one, and also to the response of the Israelites to the report of the 12 spies who went out to spy on Canaan in Numbers 13.

'Thou therefore gird up thy loins, and arise,
and speak unto them all that I command thee:
be not dismayed at their faces,
lest I confound thee before them.
For,
behold, I have made thee this day a defenced city,
.. and an iron pillar, and brasen walls
.... against the whole land,
...... against the kings of Judah,
........ against the princes thereof,
.......... against the priests thereof,
............ and against the people of the land.
And they shall fight against thee;
but they shall not prevail against thee;
for I am with thee, saith the LORD, to deliver thee.'
(Jer 1:17-19)

* We must trust in the Lord with all our heart, and lean not unto our own understanding, in all our ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct our paths.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[101G]

No. A person his not a geographical area.

are you sure? Jeremiah 23:23 "Am I a God at hand, saith the LORD, and not a God afar off?" Jeremiah 23:24 "Can any hide himself in secret places that I shall not see him? saith the LORD. Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith the LORD."

question is Heaven and earth a geographical area? ..... (smile), ...... YIKES!

it took you all that time ..... and that's what you concluded...... (smile), Oh my. you should have known better for he dwelt within our hearts. scripture, Luke 17:21 "Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you." wherever you are is a geographical location...... Oh dear........ understand now?

101G.

 

[101G]

Amazing anti-truth. An atheist statement.

(smile), anti truth? how is that anti .... truth. just because 101G exposed a LIE, now it's anti truth. listen and learn, Isaiah 5:20 "Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!"

Now Wrangler, is the Name Jehovah correct in Revelation 22:6 by the watchtower Bible? no, for it states there Jehovah sent his angel to John. and in 10 verses later, it says as all other bible, Revelation 22:16 "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star." well the Lord JESUS is not any so-called god, Jehovah.

so, who is lying? care to respond?

101G.

 

[101G]

it's Just amazing how people can read and yet not comprehend, incredible. really 101G is lost for words....... and it is written, and they still disbelieve.

101G.

 

[Studyman]

'(For after all these things do the Gentiles seek
for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.
But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and His righteousness;
and all these things shall be added unto you.'
(Mat 6:32-33)

Hello @Studyman,

Thank you for addressing reply 6, in relation to the quote (above), but, though I thank you for expressing your difference of opinion regarding Matthew 6:30; 8:26; 14:31 & 16:8,in relation to 'care', 'fear', 'doubt' and 'reasoning'. I must stand by what I said in reply 6. For it is those four adverse responses of the flesh, which are detrimental to faith, and can be tools in the enemies hands against our Christian walk of faith.

Hi Complete,

Thanks so much for your reply.

Of course, you will defend the religious philosophy you have adopted, which is perfectly natural. I was simply pointing out that Jesus, at least the Jesus "of the bible", didn't rebuke "fear" in the Scripture you referenced. You preach that HE did, and "many" who call Jesus Lord, Lord, preach that HE did. But when a man looks at what the Scriptures actually say, it is clear that Jesus wasn't against, nor did HE rebuke "Fear". He directed His People where to place this God given emotion, who to fear, and who not to fear. But "Fear" itself is not "detrimental to faith", it is essential to Faith, according to this same Jesus.

Luke 12: 4 And I say unto you my friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do. 5 But I will forewarn you "whom ye shall fear": Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, "Fear him".
I get that sometimes the actual Words of Jesus get in the way of popular religious philosophies of the mainstream religious sects and businesses that exists in the world God placed us in. They certainly did in Jesus' Time. And Jesus certainly warned it would be the same in in our time.

I can only hope you might consider that all men have cares, but it's what we do with them that Jesus addressed. All men have fear but its were this fear is directed that Jesus addressed. All men "reason", but it's the source of the knowledge they reason with, that Jesus addressed. All men have doubt, its where this doubt is placed that Jesus addressed.

All men, surrounded by the "Many" who "profess to know God, but in work's deny Him", have a need to know what is Holy, and what is Clean, and what garments to "put on". God knows His People have need of these things, as the Jesus "of the Bible" points out. It's where we go to find these things that Jesus addressed in Matt. 6:33.

Even Jesus had fear, and HE directed it to the One who has the Only Real Power. (Thy Will be done)

Examples come to mind from the Old Testament in regard to this, first of all in regard to God's words to Jeremiah in chapter one, and also to the response of the Israelites to the report of the 12 spies who went out to spy on Canaan in Numbers 13.

'Thou therefore gird up thy loins, and arise,
and speak unto them all that I command thee:
be not dismayed at their faces,
lest I confound thee before them.
For,
behold, I have made thee this day a defenced city,
.. and an iron pillar, and brasen walls
.... against the whole land,
...... against the kings of Judah,
........ against the princes thereof,
.......... against the priests thereof,
............ and against the people of the land.
And they shall fight against thee;
but they shall not prevail against thee;
for I am with thee, saith the LORD, to deliver thee.'
(Jer 1:17-19)

* We must trust in the Lord with all our heart, and lean not unto our own understanding, in all our ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct our paths.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

Perhaps a little context here would help. Let me post God's Word regarding "WHO" Jeremiah was not to fear.

15 For, lo, I will call all the families of the kingdoms of the north, saith the LORD; and they shall come, and they shall set every one his throne at the entering of the gates of Jerusalem, and against all the walls thereof round about, and against all the cities of Judah. 16 And I will utter my judgments against them touching all their wickedness, who have forsaken me, and have burned incense unto other gods, and worshipped the works of their own hands.

"'Thou therefore gird up thy loins, and arise,
and speak unto them all that I command thee:
be not dismayed at their faces,
lest I confound thee before them."

Now let me post God's Word given to Jeremiah, on where we should place our fear.

Jer. 32: 38 And they shall be my people, and I will be their God: 39 And I will give them one heart, and one way, that they may fear me for ever, for the good of them, and of their children after them:

40 And I will make an everlasting covenant with them, that I will not turn away from them, to do them good; but I will put my fear in their hearts, that they shall not depart from me.

So then, since you will stand by your own religious philosophy that "fear" is "detrimental to faith", And these Words Inspired by the same God that Jesus Spoke have not influenced you, I will still post them because of others who may be reading along.

We must trust in the Lord with all our heart, and lean not unto our own understanding, in all our ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct our paths.

According to the Jesus of the Bible, it's not the "Hearers" of these Words that will endure the Storms of this life, but the "doers".

With His Love.

SM

 

[Studyman]

the way is to be "HOLY" like God, "be ye holy for I am Holy". and God is ......... "LOVE".

101G.

Perhaps when replying to a post, you might actually consider answering questions posed, or addressing Scriptures posted. And when invoking "God's" Love, perhaps it would be prudent to use God's Inspired Word where HE Defines for His People, what His "Love" is.

 

[Complete]

In the verses leading up to this verse, the Lord uses the words, 'O ye of little faith' (v.30). This word (Gr. oligopistos) , is used four times: Here, rebuking 'care'; In (8:26) it is rebuking 'fear'; in (14:31), rebuking 'doubt'; and in (16:8) it is rebuking 'reasoning'. Then follows the verse you highlight (above).

'Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field,
which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven,
shall he not much more clothe you,
O ye of little faith?
(Mat 6:30)

'And He saith unto them, Why are ye fearful,
O ye of little faith?'
(Mat. 8:26a)

'And immediately Jesus stretched forth His hand,
and caught him, and said unto him,
O thou of little faith, wherefore didst thou doubt?'
(Mat 14:31)

Which when Jesus perceived, he said unto them,
O ye of little faith, why reason ye among yourselves,
because ye have brought no bread?'
(Mat 16:8)

Hello @Studyman,

Here, within the context of each verse we see a lack of confidence in the Lord Jesus Christ, portrayed by 'care', 'fear', 'doubt' and 'reasoning'. The context of each is necessary obviously to see the situation in which each is found.

As you say, 'care', 'fear', 'doubt' and 'reasoning' have their place: but not when it is evidenced in regard to our faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[Johann]

We receive the Holy Spirit the moment we believe: but that is not the issue being discussed. It is - 'The Kingdom of God'- which we are discussing.

Dear @Complete

Paul was the only servant of the Lord who wrote of “the Church which is Christ’s Body,” concerning “the dispensation of the grace of God for Gentiles,” who gave specific instructions as to the heavenly position, hope and calling of members of Christ’s Body. Paul never once referred to the Sermon on the Mount, the Golden Rule, The “Our Father” prayer, or to any of the kingdom parables spoken by the Lord Jesus in Matthew, Mark and Luke, the Synoptic Gospels.

However, the Holy Spirit by the mouth and pen of the Apostle Paul, presented to the members of the Body of Christ a spiritual standard as high as that presented by the Lord Jesus to His disciples on earth. The difference between the two programs is the fact that the program which Jesus of Nazareth presented on earth had a “kingdom on earth” legalistic setting, while the program which the Lord Jesus gave to the members of the Body of Christ, through the Apostle Paul, was distinctly a “grace” program for saints in the heavenlies.

By way of contrast, let us note that the word “grace” is not found once in the twentyeight chapters of the Gospel of Matthew. The Lord Jesus displayed much grace in Matthew but His message was concerning “the kingdom of heaven”, an expression found more than thirty times in Matthew.

The Epistle to the Ephesians is concerning the Body of Christ, and the fact that believing Gentiles and believing Jews constitute a Joint-Body. (Ephesians 3:6) They are united to the risen Christ by an inseparable and eternal union, seated with Him in the heavenlies, saved by grace through faith, without religious practices, ceremonies, or deeds. Ephesians 2:6 to 16. In Ephesians “grace” is found twelve times.

Let us compare Ephesians 4:32 with Matthew 6:12, 14 and 15:

“And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ’s sake hath forgiven you,” Ephesians 4:32.

“And forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors.” “For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses:” Matthew 6:12, 14 and 15.

What a difference! By grace believers have been forgiven, for Christ’s sake, in Ephesians 4:32 and they therefore should be gracious and forgive their fellowmen. This is all grace.

But note the contrast: “if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses”. What did the Lord say in giving the ten commandments to Israel? “If you do, I will do.” This is the “law” of Divine forgiveness in the “Our Father” prayer.

Now let us compare “thy kingdom come,” in Matthew 6:10, with the believer’s position in Colossians 1:13:

“Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.” Matthew 6:10. “Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of His dear Son.”

Members of Christ’s Body are already in the spiritual kingdom of Colossians 1:13. Note “And Jesus which is called Justus, who are of the circumcision. These only are my fellowworkers unto the kingdom of God, which have been a comfort unto me.” Colossians 4:11.

Note how believers get into this spiritual kingdom:

“For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one Body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.” I Corinthians 12:13.

“And that He might reconcile both unto God in one Body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby.” Ephesians 2:16.

“That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same Body, and partakers of His promise in Christ by the gospel.” Ephesians 3:6.

The Body of Christ is a part of the kingdom of God. But the kingdom of God, in the Bible, is not always the Body of Christ. Note in Matthew 8:12 that the Lord Jesus referred to Jews, saved and unsaved, as “the children of the kingdom.”

In the petition, “thy kingdom come”, the Lord Jesus was not referring to the kingdom to which members of Christ’s Body belong. “The kingdom of heaven,” to which the Lord Jesus referred in His “Our Father” prayer, will be established at the close of the great tribulation, when the Son of man shall come to deliver Israel, in accordance with Luke 21:24 to 33. Should we pray “Thy kingdom come” while we remain on earth; which means, let us go through the great tribulation?

grace and peace.
Johann.

 

[Complete]

Jesus taught to seek his God and Fathers righteousness first,= YHVH(Jehovah) not his own like the majority of religions that claim to be Christian teach their flocks. The ones he leads on earth in his religion teach that without fail. Jesus said FIRST, means its super important.

' For what saith the scripture?
Abraham believed God,
and it was counted unto him
for righteousness.'
(Rom.4:3)

'Even as Abraham believed God,
and it was accounted to him for righteousness.'
(Gal. 3:6)

'And the scripture was fulfilled which saith,
Abraham believed God,
and it was imputed unto him for righteousness:
and he was called the Friend of God.'
(Jas .2:23)

Hi Keiw1,

Yes, seeking the righteousness of God is indeed super-important, and that is achieved by believing God. Believing what He says in His word, concerning His Son the Lord Jesus Christ, and the all-sufficiency of His sacrifice for sin: and evidencing that faith, by receiving the Lord Jesus Christ as our personal Saviour and Lord.

It is then that God imputes unto us His own righteousness. He places us 'in Christ', so that we can stand before Him as, 'Holy' and 'without blame', because when He looks upon us, He sees one who has been forgiven for their sins, and cleansed from all unrighteousness. Clothed in the righteousness which He has imputed unto him.

Praise God!

In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[Complete]

Dear @Complete​

​

Paul was the only servant of the Lord who wrote of “the Church which is Christ’s Body,” concerning “the dispensation of the grace of God for Gentiles,” who gave specific instructions as to the heavenly position, hope and calling of members of Christ’s Body. Paul never once referred to the Sermon on the Mount, the Golden Rule, The “Our Father” prayer, or to any of the kingdom parables spoken by the Lord Jesus in Matthew, Mark and Luke, the Synoptic Gospels.​

Hi @Johann,

Yes, I agree.

However, the Holy Spirit by the mouth and pen of the Apostle Paul, presented to the members of the Body of Christ a spiritual standard as high as that presented by the Lord Jesus to His disciples on earth. The difference between the two programs is the fact that the program which Jesus of Nazareth presented on earth had a “kingdom on earth” legalistic setting, while the program which the Lord Jesus gave to the members of the Body of Christ, through the Apostle Paul, was distinctly a “grace” program for saints in the heavenlies.​

* Yes, I agree.

By way of contrast, let us note that the word “grace” is not found once in the twenty-eight chapters of the Gospel of Matthew. The Lord Jesus displayed much grace in Matthew but His message was concerning “the kingdom of heaven”, an expression found more than thirty times in Matthew. ​

​

The Epistle to the Ephesians is concerning the Body of Christ, and the fact that believing Gentiles and believing Jews constitute a Joint-Body. (Ephesians 3:6) They are united to the risen Christ by an inseparable and eternal union, seated with Him in the heavenlies, saved by grace through faith, without religious practices, ceremonies, or deeds. Ephesians 2:6 to 16. In Ephesians “grace” is found twelve times.​

* Yes, I agree.

Let us compare Ephesians 4:32 with Matthew 6:12, 14 and 15:​

​

“And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ’s sake hath forgiven you,” Ephesians 4:32.​

​

“And forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors.” “For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses:” Matthew 6:12, 14 and 15.​

​

What a difference! By grace believers have been forgiven, for Christ’s sake, in Ephesians 4:32 and they therefore should be gracious and forgive their fellowmen. This is all grace.​

* Yes, Praise God!

But note the contrast: “if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses”. What did the Lord say in giving the ten commandments to Israel? “If you do, I will do.” This is the “law” of Divine forgiveness in the “Our Father” prayer.​

​

Now let us compare “thy kingdom come,” in Matthew 6:10, with the believer’s position in Colossians 1:13:​

​

“Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.” Matthew 6:10. “Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of His dear Son.”​

​

Members of Christ’s Body are already in the spiritual kingdom of Colossians 1:13. Note “And Jesus which is called Justus, who are of the circumcision. These only are my fellowworkers unto the kingdom of God, which have been a comfort unto me.” Colossians 4:11.​

* Yes, Praise God!

Note how believers get into this spiritual kingdom:​

​

“For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one Body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.” (I Corinthians 12:13.)​

* Come back on this.

Johann

“And that He might reconcile both unto God in one Body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby.” Ephesians 2:16.​

“That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same Body, and partakers of His promise in Christ by the gospel.” Ephesians 3:6.​

* Praise God!

Johann

The Body of Christ is a part of the kingdom of God. But the kingdom of God, in the Bible, is not always the Body of Christ. Note in Matthew 8:12 that the Lord Jesus referred to Jews, saved and unsaved, as “the children of the kingdom.”​

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In the petition, “thy kingdom come”, the Lord Jesus was not referring to the kingdom to which members of Christ’s Body belong. “The kingdom of heaven,” to which the Lord Jesus referred in His “Our Father” prayer, will be established at the close of the great tribulation, when the Son of man shall come to deliver Israel, in accordance with Luke 21:24 to 33. Should we pray “Thy kingdom come” while we remain on earth; which means, let us go through the great tribulation?​

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grace and peace.​

Johann.​

* Thank you Johann

In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

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Note how believers get into this spiritual kingdom:​

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“For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one Body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.” (I Corinthians 12:13.)​

' ... making mention of you in my prayers;
That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory,
may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation
in the knowledge of Him:
The eyes of your understanding being enlightened;
that ye may know what is the hope of His calling,
and what the riches of the glory of His inheritance in the saints,'
(Eph 1:16-17)

Hello Johann,

I don't believe that membership of the Church which is the Body of Christ, of which Christ is the Head, is consequent on salvation by grace. I believe that it comes by revelation from above.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

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@Johann

'Giving thanks unto the Father,
Which hath made us meet to be partakers
of the inheritance of the saints in light:
Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness,
and hath translated us into the kingdom of His dear Son:
In Whom we have redemption through His blood,
even the forgiveness of sins:'
(Col 1:12-14)

 

[Studyman]

'Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field,
which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven,
shall he not much more clothe you,
O ye of little faith?
(Mat 6:30)

'And He saith unto them, Why are ye fearful,
O ye of little faith?'
(Mat. 8:26a)

'And immediately Jesus stretched forth His hand,
and caught him, and said unto him,
O thou of little faith, wherefore didst thou doubt?'
(Mat 14:31)

Which when Jesus perceived, he said unto them,
O ye of little faith, why reason ye among yourselves,
because ye have brought no bread?'
(Mat 16:8)

Hello @Studyman,

Here, within the context of each verse we see a lack of confidence in the Lord Jesus Christ, portrayed by 'care', 'fear', 'doubt' and 'reasoning'. The context of each is necessary obviously to see the situation in which each is found.

As you say, 'care', 'fear', 'doubt' and 'reasoning' have their place: but not when it is evidenced in regard to our faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

I appreciate your reply. But it still remains a Biblical Fact that Jesus does not rebuke Fear in the Scripture you posted. He rebuked the Storm which was placed in the lives of those HIS Father gives Him, to Test and build their Faith. It is important to consider all of the Words, in order to have context and understand the message.

Matt. 8: 23 And when he was entered into a ship, his disciples followed him.

It is easy to believe God and walk as Jesus walked when the seas are calm.

24 And, behold, there arose a great tempest in the sea, insomuch that the ship was covered with the waves: but he was asleep. 25 And his disciples came to him, and awoke him, saying, Lord, save us: we perish.

I am no Peter, and certainly not to be compared to the Disciples who saw the Miracles HE did. But there is not one person you or I know, who wouldn't cry out to Jesus for help if they were in the same shoes. Why??? Because all men have fear, even faithful men as the Scriptures show you over and over and over. They just need to be learned of God how to rule over their fear, where to direct it.

26 And he saith unto them, Why are ye fearful, O ye of little faith? Then he arose, and rebuked the winds and the sea; and there was a great calm. 27 But the men marvelled, saying, What manner of man is this, that even the winds and the sea obey him!

We all have a cross to bear, and "Fear" is part of it. We carry it on our Journey "for the Prize of the High Calling of God" which was in Christ Jesus. God's People long for the Day when fear is removed, and we are no longer plagued by it. But to say a man of Faith has no fear, is foolishness.

The very reason why the Christ had this written, is because HE knew I would fear in the storms of my life. But then I would recall His WORDS, which are Spirit and Life and ask myself, "Why do I fear"? Then with His Words dwelling within me, I would know it isn't the Storm, which cannot hurt me. There is One who I am to fear, not the Storm. I will then admit to God, "I believe, help me in my unbelief".

And through the Storm my Faith is tested and purified and strengthened, just as it was for the Disciples when God sent the Storm to them.

I believe the other 3 emotions, "Cares", "Reasoning" "Doubt" are also part of our cross. We are told to "Care" one for another, and to give the "Cares" of this world to the Jesus "of the Bible". We are to "Reason" in the scriptures, Seeking first the Kingdom of God and HIS righteousness. WE are to "Doubt" the philosophies and religious traditions of the "many" who come in Christ's Name.

I know you are set in your adopted views, as I am set in what the Scriptures themselves has shown me. It is good to have these discussions in this world where there are so "many" who come in Christ's Name that Jesus warned about.

Ps. 14: 4 Have all the workers of iniquity no knowledge? who eat up my people as they eat bread, and call not upon the LORD. 5 There were they in great fear: for God is in the generation of the righteous.

 

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Hello @Studyman

The words, 'Oh ye of little faith', is a rebuke in itself. That alone marks each one to be so.

Enough I think.
Thank you for your input.
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[Keiw1]

LOL, LOL, LOL, Oh dear..... listen, Jehovah do not go through anyone because Jehovah is not REAL, that's a fake made up name by men. there is no Jehovah........ Only YESHUA/JESUS. listen and Learn, 1 Timothy 6:14 "That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:" 1 Timothy 6:15 "Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;" 1 Timothy 6:16 "Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen."

if the Lord Jesus is the ONLY, ONLY, ONLY, one who has "ETERNAL LIFE/IMMORTALITY"..... where do that leave your Jehovah? answer, no where, because he is a false god.

see, your own NWT LIED, it took out the Lord God and inserted the false Name Jehovah. when one add or take away from God holy Word, one put the spiritual noose around their own necks, as what happen here in Rev, 1:1, Rev 22:6 and Rev, 22:16.

now as for the people in Revelation as God, there is Only ONE PERSON, supportive scripture, Revelation 1:1 "The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:" Revelation 1:2 "Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw." Revelation 1:3 "Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand." Revelation 1:4 "John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;" Revelation 1:5 "And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,"

Keiw1, question is these three people this Revelation is from? LISTEN,
A. "from him which is, and which was, and which is to come". (the Father?)
B. "and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne" (the Holy Spirit?)
C. "And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness" (the Son?)

so, is these three separate people that this revelation from?

now Keiw1 before you answer, 101G is going to tell you the TRUTH,,,,, "THIS IS ONLY ONE PERSON.

101G.

You will find out different.

 

[Keiw1]

' For what saith the scripture?
Abraham believed God,
and it was counted unto him
for righteousness.'
(Rom.4:3)

'Even as Abraham believed God,
and it was accounted to him for righteousness.'
(Gal. 3:6)

'And the scripture was fulfilled which saith,
Abraham believed God,
and it was imputed unto him for righteousness:
and he was called the Friend of God.'
(Jas .2:23)

Hi Keiw1,

Yes, seeking the righteousness of God is indeed super-important, and that is achieved by believing God. Believing what He says in His word, concerning His Son the Lord Jesus Christ, and the all-sufficiency of His sacrifice for sin: and evidencing that faith, by receiving the Lord Jesus Christ as our personal Saviour and Lord.

It is then that God imputes unto us His own righteousness. He places us 'in Christ', so that we can stand before Him as, 'Holy' and 'without blame', because when He looks upon us, He sees one who has been forgiven for their sins, and cleansed from all unrighteousness. Clothed in the righteousness which He has imputed unto him.

Praise God!

In Christ Jesus
Chris

The only ones cleansed-repented and turned around( Acts 3:19)-these obey-EVERY utterance from God to the best of their abilities.
Yes the true God=YHVH(Jehovah), not Jesus, he is Gods son, all sons are made by their father. God always was and always will be.