A request

[FreeInChrist]

And @Studyman should also be included from the non trinitarian side.

@civic and @Administrator ....Just an idea..... If there will be multiple people I suggest

#1. That there should be those who toss their hats into the mix as wanting to participate. So both sides know who wants to.

#2. That every one should offer a brief "opening statement" of their beliefs before a debate so readers can understand where they stand and are coming from Getting to the point of the debate someone had said Keiw1 was a Trinitarian.

Now feel free to ignore this.... I am merely thinking

 

[Peterlag]

NO.... This was @Red Baker's request because you 3 consistently decline his
ono on one invites in a regular thread.

YOU want to ignore him?

WHY???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

If it's going to be one on one I see no difference on how this would work since I have went one on one with many who have stayed with me for weeks and even months. They end by either...

1.) Them telling me I'm hopeless so they are done wasting their time.
2.) They can't beat me so they slander me and I then ignore them.

 

[Administrator]

@civic and @Administrator ....Just an idea..... If there will be multiple people I suggest

#1. That there should be those who toss their hats into the mix as wanting to participate. So both sides know who wants to.

#2. That every one should offer a brief "opening statement" of their beliefs before a debate so readers can understand where they stand and are coming from Getting to the point of the debate someone had said Keiw1 was a Trinitarian.

Now feel free to ignore this.... I am merely thinking

sounds good, I'll set that up as a "Pre-Debate" page.

 

[Peterlag]

Wrong.... You are debating the Deity of the Messiah and you have consistently ignored @Red Baker when he has asked for a one on one debate with you.

Now you have the opportunity to be 3 on one, your side. What are you afraid of?

We don't need any special website set ups if someone wants to get into a debate with me. Pick a site and we can mostly just focus on each other.

 

[Administrator]

If it's going to be one on one I see no difference on how this would work since I have went one on one with many who have stayed with me for weeks and even months. They end by either...

1.) Them telling me I'm hopeless so they are done wasting their time.
2.) They can't beat me so they slander me and I then ignore them.

That's why I'll be moderating.

 

[FreeInChrist]

We don't need any special website set ups if someone wants to get into a debate with me. Pick a site and we can mostly just focus on each other.

But you dont. You have not. And things in a regular uncontrolled site get side tracked. I will admit I am guilty myself at time of that.

Just get your opening statement ready of your beliefs, for that will be informative for everyone.

 

[Peterlag]

@Peterlag

Have you never read so much as these words?

Matthew 24:5​

“For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.”

In what manner will the latter day false prophets deceive many by saying that Jesus is the Christ?

We shall see....once the thread is open.

Maybe it would be nice if the moderator included @Studyman on your team (since he rejects the Trinity as the word of God teaches it) and then make it four for you, I still would have the majority with me............. I have God's Son and the testimony of the scriptures ~ what more would a man need than this?

Bring this mind set to battle and you will soon be expose as not of God.

Right now it looks like it's just you and me.

 

[Administrator]

Right now it looks like it's just you and me.

Sign Up here for upcoming" The Deity of Christ True or False?" Debate

https://berean-apologetics.community.forum/threads/pre-debate-sign-up.2721/

 

[Studyman]

This is as close as blasphemy against the Holy Ghost as one can come to do.
You, are speaking against the very testimony of the Holy Ghost.

I would agree that these popular religious philosophies being promoted by this world's religious system are a testimony of a spirit, but not the Holy Spirit.

The moderator need to make the first debate one on one between you and me

This forum is a very good forum, and a little too merciful to heretics, in my opinion, yet that's America, and that's the way life was carried out in the days of Christ it seems, but it is time to exposed those who have not the doctrine of Jesus Christ ~ the true knowledge of Jesus Christ far exceeds any knowledge that this vain world has to offer us.

One more pointy....A correct understanding of Jesus Christ is the very essence of a child of God's faith.

Nevertheless, the philosophies you promote, further an "image of God" that the Holy Scriptures do not represent. A popular image of God in the world God placed me in, Yes. An image of God prompted by this world's religious system, Yes. But not the God described by His Inspired Holy Scriptures.

 

[FreeInChrist]

I would agree that these popular religious philosophies being promoted by this world's religious system are a testimony of a spirit, but not the Holy Spirit.



Nevertheless, the philosophies you promote, further an "image of God" that the Holy Scriptures do not represent. A popular image of God in the world God placed me in, Yes. An image of God prompted by this world's religious system, Yes. But not the God described by His Inspired Holy Scriptures.

Those who are indwelled by the Holy Spirit know, with out fail, exactly what the four corners of the Holy Scriptures describe about our Holy Father.

Did you sign up for the debate or do you just want to be a sideline blatherskite?

 

[FreeInChrist]

Right now it looks like it's just you and me.

Did you sign up for the debate yet? If not, why not?

 

[Studyman]

Those who are indwelled by the Holy Spirit know, with out fail, exactly what the four corners of the Holy Scriptures describe about our Holy Father.

No doubt those who are indwelled by the Holy Spirit know God.

Did you sign up for the debate or do you just want to be a sideline blatherskite?

Wow, it wasn't two weeks ago you told me "Pay no attention to Red Baker", that "no matter what, he is always right".

But now if I don't sign up to debate him, I'm a "blatherskite"?

What indwelling spirit is this?

 

[Peterlag]

No doubt those who are indwelled by the Holy Spirit know God.



Wow, it wasn't two weeks ago you told me "Pay no attention to Red Baker", that "no matter what, he is always right".

But now if I don't sign up to debate him, I'm a "blatherskite"?

What indwelling spirit is this?

How can folks be so 100 percent sure of themselves and also be so 100 percent wrong?

It seems to suggest the trinity folks already believe Jesus is God. It's the first thing they are told. Then they go to the Bible to search for proof to support it. Thus, all their Scripture is seen in that light. And all of it is taken out of context, or not understood how the words were used in the culture they were written in, or from a bad translation. So their whole religion to be able to worship God in the spirit and walk in that spirit is false.

 

[Peterlag]

Did you sign up for the debate yet? If not, why not?

Yep... I'm the first one in.

 

[Red Baker]

@Studyman

Nevertheless, the philosophies you promote, further an "image of God" that the Holy Scriptures do not represent.

Then join the debate, if you feel confidence that you have the truth. Put your money where your mouth is as the old saying goes.

 

[Red Baker]

@Peterlag

Yep... I'm the first one in.

Peter, what faith are you of? I told mine, so I think it would be fair for you to tell yours. Do you know which faith @Runningman adheres to.

 

[Red Baker]

@Peterlag

How can folks be so 100 percent sure of themselves and also be so 100 percent wrong?

Well, you two are two of the kings of land that are guilty of what you are asking!

 

[Administrator]

Now open

https://berean-apologetics.communit...f-jesus-christ-true-or-false.2720/post-188893

 

[Runningman]

@Peterlag , @Runningman , @Keiw1

Will you please debate @RedBaker ~ one on one or all 3
of you together? And if not, please tell us all why not.

Pretty certain you know the subject.

And can be as soon as tomorrow if you so choose.

It's going to be embarrassing watching Red Baker not be able to produce any examples of the trinity in the Bible and the debate never move past that point. Any debate must be built on correct premise or there isn't debate to be had. If Red Baker cannot prove that there is a trinity in the first place, then it's a debate over a non-existent straw man.

 

[Red Baker]

@Peterlag

And all of it is taken out of context, or not understood how the words were used in the culture they were written in, or from a bad translation.

We shall see....I trust the word of God that my forefathers trusted in, I refuse to enter into a fruitless of Greek speculations! The Greeks were known for seeking after wisdom, and they never found it, for true wisdom in to be found in Jesus Christ, the Son of the Living God.

1st Corinthians 1:24​

“But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.”