Your Views on The Trinity

[Runningman]

Peterlag affirms the "Lord" in Acts 2:21 refers to Jesus, but you don't.

Post in thread 'The Bible does not teach to pray to Jesus'

Sep 23, 2024

Verse 21 plainly settles the case if one is responsive to the evidence

Acts 2:21 says it's YHWH in the Old Testament verse it's quoted from. That proves it's not Jesus.

• Runningman

Love it!

^^^
Don't trust anything Fred says.

Acts 2:21 and Acts 2:22 are explicit about Jesus not being YHWH.

 

[Fred]

^^^
Don't trust anything Fred says.

Acts 2:21 and Acts 2:22 are explicit about Jesus not being YHWH.

Peterlag says the "Lord" in Acts 2:21 refers to Jesus.

It's always nice to see when unitarians clunk their heads together in trying to figure out who their creator and creature-jesus are.

 

[Peterlag]

Thanks, because this demonstrates Jesus is "the Lord our God".

Joel 2:32
And it shall come to pass that whosoever shall call on the Name of the Lord shall be saved; for in Mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the Lord hath said, and in the remnant whom the Lord shall call.

Acts 2:21, 39
21 And it shall come to pass that whosoever shall call on the Name of the Lord shall be saved.
39 For the promise is unto you and to your children and to all who are afar off, as many as the Lord our God shall call.

It does not demonstrate that Jesus is God just because Joel foretold Jesus would be the Lord Christ. Reading should have been taught to you in second grade.

 

[Fred]

It does not demonstrate that Jesus is God just because Joel foretold Jesus would be the Lord Christ. Reading should have been taught to you in second grade.

Peter applies Joel 2:32 in reference to Jesus in Acts 2:39.

 

[Runningman]

Peterlag says the "Lord" in Acts 2:21 refers to Jesus.

It's always nice to see when unitarians clunk their heads together in trying to figure out who their creator and creature-jesus are.

You're creating a story that only you can see apparently.

 

[Fred]

You're creating a story that only you can see apparently.

next time open your eyes

Post in thread 'Your Views on The Trinity'

Saturday at 6:25 PM

0 doubt-acts 2:21--Rom 10:13 are quote of Joel 2:21-22

Acts 2:21 and Romans 10:13 pertain to Christ. Joel 2:21-22 is referred to the coming of Christ. This is not rocket science. This conversation started when I pointed out that there's no verse in the Bible that says we should believe or confess that Jesus is God. Calling on the name of Jesus be it Acts, Romans, or foretold from Joel is not saying we should believe or confess that Jesus is God.

• Peterlag

 

[Runningman]

next time open your eyes

Post in thread 'Your Views on The Trinity'

Saturday at 6:25 PM

0 doubt-acts 2:21--Rom 10:13 are quote of Joel 2:21-22

Acts 2:21 and Romans 10:13 pertain to Christ. Joel 2:21-22 is referred to the coming of Christ. This is not rocket science. This conversation started when I pointed out that there's no verse in the Bible that says we should believe or confess that Jesus is God. Calling on the name of Jesus be it Acts, Romans, or foretold from Joel is not saying we should believe or confess that Jesus is God.

• Peterlag

I really wish you would open your eyes. Did you read his entire post? He is not agreeing with anything you say.

 

[Fred]

I really wish you would open your eyes. Did you read his entire post? He is not agreeing with anything you say.

You don't know what you are talking about.

 

[Runningman]

You don't know what you are talking about.

Sometimes you have to bring a horse to water. Let's see if he'll drink.

See it now?

"Joel is not saying we should believe or confess Jesus is God"

 

[Fred]

Sometimes you have to bring a horse to water.

Or a donkey.

 

[Runningman]

Or a donkey.

I would have used the other word.

 

[Fred]

I would have used the other word.

Go ahead.

 

[Peterlag]

Peter applies Joel 2:32 in reference to Jesus in Acts 2:39.

And so that does not mean Jesus is God because Joel foretold the coming of Christ.

 

[Fred]

And so that does not mean Jesus is God because Joel foretold the coming of Christ.

Peter took what was written in Joel 2:32 and added (under inspiration) "the Lord our God" in Acts 2:39.

 

[Fred]

When the word "Lord" is used in Joel 2:32 it's referring to Jesus

Does the "Lord" in Joel 2:31 refer to Jesus?

 

[Peterlag]

Does the "Lord" in Joel 2:31 refer to Jesus?

Yes... and that's still future.

 

[Peterlag]

Peter took what was written in Joel 2:32 and added (under inspiration) "the Lord our God" in Acts 2:39.

"the Lord our God" in Acts 2:39 is a quote from the Old Testament.

Peter took what was written in Joel 2:32 and added (under inspiration) "the Lord our God" in Acts 2:39.

"the Lord our God" is referring to God and not Jesus. This is not the first time God was called the Lord.

 

[Fred]

"the Lord our God" in Acts 2:39 is a quote from the Old Testament.

And this "Lord" who calls is from Joel 2:32 where you previously affirmed the "Lord" refers to Jesus.

 

[Fred]

Yes... and that's still future.

Since the "Lord" refers to Jesus in Joel 2:31 (cf. Acts 2:20), then this means the "Lord" also refers to Jesus in other passages throughout Joel as well.

Joel 2:31
the great and awesome day of the Lord
Joel 2:11
the great and awesome day of the Lord


Joel 1:15 -> "day of the Lord"
Joel 2:1 -> "day of the Lord"
Joel 2:11 -> "day of the Lord"
Joel 2:31 -> "day of the Lord"
Joel 3:13 -> "day of the Lord"

 

[Runningman]

"the Lord our God" in Acts 2:39 is a quote from the Old Testament.

"the Lord our God" is referring to God and not Jesus. This is not the first time God was called the Lord.

I think they get confused by the word Lord getting thrown around a lot. Simple study should clear it up, but they insist on conflating God with Jesus.