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Yes Whites book is excellent.
Why The Trinity is Wrong: Definition
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Wrangler
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Strawman. Jesus is not God, by definition. No back door rationalization can close the gap between reality and your IDOLATRY.
Regarding this multiple personality angle, I suggest you start another thread. This thread is about why the trinity is wrong by definition. It is not about synergy's psycho-babble mumbo jumbo.
Wrangler
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You are embarrassing yourself. Educate yourself. This link has a dozen Scripture verses on the topic. https://www.gotquestions.org/indwelling-of-the-Holy-Spirit.html
Wrangler
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Nothing wrong with that. Point is the LORD (capital) is not a synonym for our lord (lowercase), by definition.
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Impossible. He is the created Son of the Creator, as we all are.
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He is an agent of the Savior, which makes him also a savior.
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AS IF this has any bearing on the subject!
God delegated to Jesus the power to forgive sins, who in turn delegated the power to forgive sins the Apostles. This delegation of power does not make the Apostles God.
Wrangler
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No Scripture verse says this. Rather, it tells us over and over again that he is a man, who prays to our Father.
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Bad translation. Most translations are what I prefer, e.g.,
John 1:18
World English Bible
18 No one has seen God at any time. The one and only Son,[a] who is in the bosom of the Father, has declared him.
John 1:18
Worldwide English (New Testament)
18 No one has ever seen God. But his only Son is very near to his Father's heart. He has told us plainly about God.
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Strawman. I am not a Unitarian Universalist but a Biblical Unitarian.
What Do Biblical Unitarians Believe? - BiblicalUnitarian.com
A list of things that Biblical Unitarians believe.
www.biblicalunitarian.com
Jesus is not God with a capital G.
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synergy
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You continue to embarrass yourself. The Word of God is not the Holy Spirit. The Word of God took on human nature only in the person of Jesus. That's radically different than what happens between us and the Holy Spirit during regeneration.
Your view of the Unitarian Jesus has been officially exposed as Nestorianism. See the link below which defines Nestorianism as believing that "Christ essentially exists as two persons sharing one body."
What is Nestorianism? Who were the Nestorians? | GotQuestions.org
What is Nestorianism? Who were the Nestorians? What were some of the early beliefs about the Trinity?
www.gotquestions.org
Wrangler
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I never said that.
The word of synergy is just that, synergy's words.
The word of Wrangler, is just that, Wrangler's words.
Words are not a separate person from the Being who spoke them.
What an embarrassment.
Wrangler
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You know this is figurative, right? Deut 18:15-18 puts it more literally; God put these words in a person among the people that God choose. Why do you suppose Phillip said to Nathanael that Jesus is the one Moses told us about @ John 1:45?
synergy
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It's not a quote. It's an inference by the fact that you brought in the Holy Spirit when the subject matter is Jesus.
You need to read the Bible which elevates one's understanding of God above human understanding. For example, the Word of God is not just a word, He is a full fletched Person:
(Rev 19:13) And He had been clothed in a garment dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God.
I see you shifting between a 2 persons view of Jesus and a 1 person for Jesus, the human one. You're stuck between denying the Word of God Person or falling into Nestorianism. How embarrassing.
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For example?
Wrangler
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Being a trinitarian, you ought to not trust your inferences.
You lack humility to accept explicit statements that contradict your inferences. The insolence of telling me what I believe!
Wrangler
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I've read the Bible multiple times. Your problem is in projecting this verse onto other verses that use the term 'word of God.'
Also, another bizarro thing trinitarians do; just because someone is called something, does not mean they are that thing that they are called. Yet, trinitarians suppose otherwise or at least, cannot differentiate the two. Ali called himself the greatest. Does that make it so?
Wrangler
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See OP and thread about LORD v Lord.
synergy
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Prophet is one of many names ascribed to Jesus. What's the big deal?
(Luke 24:19) And He said to them, What things? And they said to Him, The things concerning Jesus of Nazareth, who was a man, a prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people,
Wrangler
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You see incorrectly. I reject mystical dualism.
Yes, I deny words are persons. It's proper identification of reality. It's embarrassing that you thing attributes of a person make a different person.
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