Why I don’t believe or accept the trinity.

Amen which some refuse to do and bow before the One/ Only Lord who is YHWH. He is known as the only Savior/ Lord Jesus Christ. He will be forced in the afterlife to bow, lay prostrate before Him but then it will be to late. To be saved it must happen on this side on this earth prior to one’s death.
 
And notice according to the Father and Son and the Holy Spirit both the Father/ Son are honored, glorified, praised and worshipped equally. We honor both whereas they dishonor the Son and refuse to praise, worship, honor and glorify the Son. If you dishonor One you dishonor both Father and Son and it’s proof the Holy Spirits guidance is not with them.
 
And notice according to the Father and Son and the Holy Spirit both the Father/ Son are honored, glorified, praised and worshipped equally. We honor both whereas they dishonor the Son and refuse to praise, worship, honor and glorify the Son. If you dishonor One you dishonor both Father and Son and it’s proof the Holy Spirits guidance is not with them.
The context of what you're talking about is about judgement. It doesn't refer to worship.
 
Jesus is never prayed to one time in Scripture. When Jesus taught on the matter of prayer, he only ever taught about praying to the Father in Matthew 6:6,9.

You can believe that false teaching if you want to, but you couldn't refute the evidence that the Lord Jesus is the proper recipient of prayer in Acts 1:24-25.

You totally dodged it.

This isn't surprising.
 
John 15: 1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. 2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit "he" taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, "he" purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. 3 Now ye are clean through the word "which I have spoken unto you".

7 If ye abide in me, and "my words" abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you. 8 Herein is "my Father" glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.

John 17: 8 For I have given unto them "the words" which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that "I came out from thee", and they have believed "that thou didst send me".

9 I pray "for them": I pray not for the world, but for them which "thou hast given me"; for they "are thine".

John 15:18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me "before it hated you".

19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

Heavenly Father, I Thank you for your Son and the Word's you gave to Him, to give to me. And thank you that I am found worthy by this world's religious attack dogs to place their hate on me, just like they did on your Son, because of "Your Words" in Him.

And I know it was Your Spirit in the man Jesus that they hated, just as it is your Spirit within me that causes them to hate on me.

I am both humbled and grateful to be ridiculed and demeaned "because" I believe in and worship the Same God and Father that the Jesus "of the Bible" believed in and worshiped.

And thank you Jeshua, for the Faith and instruction to withstand and overcome the influences of the ruler of this world's religions, that I might overcome, just as you overcame.

Amen.
 
Context (is 'king'?):

"The Same [ Word ] was in the beginning With God { The Father? }. All things​
were made By Him; and Without Him was not any thing made that was made."​
(Context 'right After' v 1 = vs. 2-3 in John AV!)​
Should we just simply ignore this, as well as "The Creator/Creation" in Colossians 1:12-18 AV?
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Precious friend, we have no problem with Capitalization Of our LORD Jesus Christ, because
In The OT, we have prayerfully and Carefully studied The Following Truth:

"...The LORD appeared unto him [ 99-year-old Abraham ch 17, v 24 ] in the plains of Mamre..." (Genesis 18:1 AV) Which Eternal Person did "Abraham see and talk to"? The Father or​
The SON?:​
1) The Inerrant Bible Of God Almighty Teaches The Truth:​
"No man hath seen God at any time!..." (John 1:18 AV) Must Refer "To The Father" Since:​

2) Must Be The LORD Jesus Christ Then, Because After "Communing With Abraham"​
and Then "Went His Way" (vs 16-17 and 33) - "Sodom and Gomorrah" (ch 19 AV),​
Correct? We now Have [ After Lot and his family is Removed! ] This Truth:​

"Then The LORD [ The SON On the earth,] rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah​
brimstone and fire from The LORD [ The Father On The Throne ] out of heaven;"​
(Genesis 19:24 AV)​

Thus, we, Just As The Father Does, Call Him LORD, Because:

Because of This Plain and Clear [ Something In Scripture ] Truth!:


"...Unto The SON He [ The Father v 1] Saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and​
ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of Thy kingdom" (Hebrews 1:8 AV)​
Precious friend why in Heaven's Name would I believe "nothing In Scripture directly calls
Jesus God", When The Father Himself "Directly Did So!" ???

We are all praying for @Wrangler, @Keiw1, @APAK, @Runningman, @MatthewG, @Peterlag, and @Pancho Frijoles, and all jw's to please prayerfully and Very Carefully Reconsider, Because Of:


Thank The LORD Jesus Christ, "He IS God, The Righteous Judge!"
(John 5:22-23 cp Revelation 20:11-12a AV)​
Amen.
Every spot in OT where GOD or LORD is-God put YHVH(Jehovah)
 
LOL, read, Luke 17:21 "Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you." now is the KINGDOM of GOD within us? again, Romans 14:17 "For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost."

John 14:17 "Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you."

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Great, because the Bible teaches since the Lord Jesus is the proper recipient of prayer proves He is God.
https://berean-apologetics.community.forum/threads/the-trinity-made-easy.87/page-4#post-3446

Jesus was a mortal man, not immortal God. He came in the Flesh as it was written, "A man of sorrows". I posted where HE told me who to worship, who HE worshiped, and who to pray to and how to pray to HIM. It is for this, that I am demeaned and belittled by the promoters of this world's many religious sects and businesses.

It's a blessing to be slandered and belittled for righteousness sake, I am honored and humbled that a nobody like me is the recipient of such slander, for simply posting the Words of the Christ "of the Bible".
 
You can believe that false teaching if you want to, but you couldn't refute the evidence that the Lord Jesus is the proper recipient of prayer in Acts 1:24-25.

You totally dodged it.

This isn't surprising.
It doesn't follow sound reason that suddenly without precedent, comment, or explanation someone would suddenly pray to Jesus in the Bible. Not only did none of the prophets, Jesus, or any of the disciples teach about praying to Jesus, no one apparently did in Scripture by example. Therefore, there is no mention of Jesus in Acts 1:24-25.

Jesus taught to pray to the Father in Matthew 6:6,9. Before Jesus was taken to heaven, he gave instructions on prayer and said to not ask him for anything, but rather ask the Father in John 16:23. When they prayed to the Sovereign Lord and Creator in Acts 4:24-27 it wasn't to Jesus.

Imagine a book that only teaches about praying to the Father, but never to Jesus. Sounds like Jesus isn't God.
 
It doesn't follow sound reason that suddenly without precedent, comment, or explanation someone would suddenly pray to Jesus in the Bible. Not only did none of the prophets, Jesus, or any of the disciples teach about praying to Jesus, no one apparently did in Scripture by example. Therefore, there is no mention of Jesus in Acts 1:24-25.

Jesus taught to pray to the Father in Matthew 6:6,9. Before Jesus was taken to heaven, he gave instructions on prayer and said to not ask him for anything, but rather ask the Father in John 16:23. When they prayed to the Sovereign Lord and Creator in Acts 4:24-27 it wasn't to Jesus.

Imagine a book that only teaches about praying to the Father, but never to Jesus. Sounds like Jesus isn't God.
i thought you might have better arguments than Peterlag. They are just as bad.
Your comment about Acts 1:24-25 neglects the context where Jesus as Lord was just mentioned.

You point is worse in Matt 6 since Jesus was not revealing to them his deity. They would have stoned him in their ignorance if he said that.

Then Acts 24 is no excluding Christ Jesus as divinity. John 16:23 speaks against your view. The verse means that you must acknowledge Jesus' centrality here. Almost everything Jesus says is for people listening as him in relationship with the Father. That says nothing beyond the fact that Christ is divine of the same divinity as his Father.

If you do not have enough of an argument to convince others, you should be careful what you are trying to believe.
 
Jesus was a mortal man, not immortal God. He came in the Flesh as it was written, "A man of sorrows". I posted where HE told me who to worship, who HE worshiped, and who to pray to and how to pray to HIM. It is for this, that I am demeaned and belittled by the promoters of this world's many religious sects and businesses.

It's a blessing to be slandered and belittled for righteousness sake, I am honored and humbled that a nobody like me is the recipient of such slander, for simply posting the Words of the Christ "of the Bible".

You dodged.
Quite obvious.
 
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