101G
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Greeting,
are you a one person God believer, or a three person God believer? 101G have forgotten your doctrine.
101G
Who is Jesus?
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are you a one person God believer, or a three person God believer? 101G have forgotten your doctrine.
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civic
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He is a Trinitarian and worships the biblical God.
101G
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101G
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Doing ok in the midst of a treatment procedure.
Clay
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While Jesus was on earth, many people traveled great distances to catch even a distant glimpse of the Nazarene who was said to be the Messiah. They wanted to know more about Him and find out if the rumors were true.
The same happens in our own lives. When we hear about Jesus— when we hear about what He does in the lives of ordinary people— we want to find out more about Him.
What we find is that knowing Jesus offers blessings beyond our wildest dreams. And even if we’ve known Him many years, we find that He is always astonishing us with new ways of meeting our needs and restoring our souls.
The same happens in our own lives. When we hear about Jesus— when we hear about what He does in the lives of ordinary people— we want to find out more about Him.
What we find is that knowing Jesus offers blessings beyond our wildest dreams. And even if we’ve known Him many years, we find that He is always astonishing us with new ways of meeting our needs and restoring our souls.
brightfame52
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Did you know that Jesus came not to offer salvation, but to actually save His people from their sins ? Matt 1:21
21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.
Clay
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Being saved from our sins is salvation.
SALVATION Examines the biblical concept of salvation as it develops from the sense of physical rescue in the present life (e.g., deliverance from danger or crisis) to the idea of spiritual rescue often associated with the afterlife (e.g., forgiveness from sins, eternal life). This development in the concept of salvation corresponds with changes in beliefs regarding life after death: As views about the afterlife became more optimistic, the understanding of salvation expanded beyond the present world to include hopes for divine deliverance and even resurrection in the world to come.
In the Bible, salvation usually comes from God, Jesus, or an agent of God. Terms for salvation include:
• יָשַׁע (yasha') and יְשׁוּעָה (yeshu'ah)—Hebrew words most often translated as “save” and “salvation”;
• נָצַל (natsal)—also Hebrew, usually translated as “rescue”; and
• σῴζω (sōzō) and σωτηρία (sōtēria)—Greek words meaning “save” and “salvation.”
Both are true
Acts 16:30–31 (LEB) — 30 And he brought them outside and said, “Sirs, what must I do so that I can be saved?” 31 And they said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus and you will be saved, you and your household!”
Mark 16:16 (LEB) — 16 The one who believes and is baptized will be saved, but the one who refuses to believe will be condemned.
John 5:24 (LEB) — 24 Truly, truly I say to you that the one who hears my word and who believes the one who sent me has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life.
Acts 2:38 (LEB) — 38 And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized, each one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
Acts 2:38 (LEB) — 38 And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized, each one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
brightfame52
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No such thing as a offer of salvation.
civic
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But there is such thing as a counterfeit christ and a counterfeit gospel.
Scripture warns us about it often. They appear as the real thing but are slightly off and without discernment people fall for the one disguised as an Angel of light.
hope this helps !!!
brightfame52
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You seeing things not there in those scriptures, no offer is being made. No such thing
synergy
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Do you understand English Grammar?
All of the verses that @TomL presented are grammatically structured as offers of salvation because each links a condition with a promised result: Acts 16:31 uses the imperative “Believe” followed by the future “you will be saved,” showing a conditional promise; Mark 16:16 employs relative clauses (“the one who believes… will be saved”) to present salvation as available to any who fulfill the condition, contrasted with condemnation for unbelief; John 5:24 ties participial conditions (“the one who hears… and believes”) directly to present-tense results (“has eternal life… has passed from death”), making the offer immediate and universal; and Acts 2:38 joins imperatives (“Repent and be baptized”) with a guaranteed outcome (“you will receive”), the very form of an open invitation. In every case, the grammar shows not abstract statements but conditional promises — direct offers of salvation extended to the hearer.
civic
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yes thats an offer by definition.
OF'FER, n.
1. A proposal to be accepted or rejected; presentation to choice. The prince made liberal offers, but they were rejected.
noun
1: a presenting of something for acceptance
considering job offers from several firms
an offer of marriage
b
: an undertaking to do an act or give something on condition that the party to whom the proposal is made do some specified act or make a return promise
Clay
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The gospel sincerely offers salvation to any who will meet the conditions of repentance and faith.
And they will dash you down to the ground, you [Jerusalem] and your children within you; and they will not leave in you one stone upon another, [all] because you did not come progressively to recognize and know and understand [from observation and experience] the time of your visitation [that is, when God was visiting you, the time in which God showed Himself gracious toward you and offered you salvation through Christ].
Luke 19:44
brightfame52
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Since when did a imperative become an offer ? Thats not biblical, an imperative is an command
brightfame52
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Clay
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Yes your right, Calvinism is false.
It is true that Calvinism affirm that salvation is sincerely offered to all by the gospel, but their affirmation has to fly in the face of the apparently otherwise implications of their doctrine of atonement.
The man made doctrine of Limited Atonement, asserts that Christ died only for the elect and not for the whole world. This is a direct contradiction of numerous biblical passages.
Scripture plainly teaches that Jesus is “the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world” (John 1:29), that He “tasted death for everyone” (Heb 2:9), and that He is “the propitiation… not for our sins only, but also for those of the whole world” (1 John 2:2).
The truth is the atonement is sufficient for all and applied only to those who believe. Calvinism’s limitation of the cross reduces the scope of divine love and restricts the sincerity of God’s universal invitation.
The New Testament repeatedly affirms that salvation is available to whoever believes (John 3:16; Rom 10:13; Rev 22:17). Christ’s death is an actual provision they freely reject. Limiting the atonement turns the cross into an exclusive transaction, instead of the worldwide offer that Scripture declares it to be.
