jeremiah1five
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Nope. I don't think of myself more highly than I ought.You will notice that I did not say that God would be racist... I said that God is not racist. That is a direct statement. However, if you are wrong, you are left with that because you opened that door for Him without a thought. The level of pride in your heart is incredibly high. For your benefit...very nice. What about the rest of the Hebrews/Jews. Not important to you I guess.
You may want to reread Daniel. May be a bit difficult for you to grasp however.
No Canaanites. That does not include Philistines, Greeks, etc. Canaanites. A specific group of people. Abimelech, whom God Himself performed a miracle so that He would have to kill him was a Philistine.
It is the unsaved Gentiles who are deceived by Satan who will surround both Gentile believers, and Jerusalem. (The encampment.)
Ah so no Nation (singular) of Israel. I got it.
Again, I NEVER SAID that Gentiles are in that covenant. God said they are BLESSED by Abraham because of his faith. When did the word covenant escape my lips in saying that. NEVER. Paul said those who put their "faith" in the covenant will die in the covenant. Faith is in Christ.
Wrong again. Are you just spitting about talking points or something. It isn't WILL exalts. They were exalted, however they broke the covenant. They will be exalted again, but not yet. This is the times of the Gentiles. (Luke 21) The temple will be trampled on by the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles is fulfilled. That is the time that the gospel is going out to the Gentiles, before God removes the partial blindness/hardening (PARTIAL!!) from Israel, and at that time all Israel will be saved.
Yes. Which is why God is crushing Israel right now. He will punish them, crush them, all as part of purifying the remnant. He does not reject or destroy, not because, well it is ISrael. But because he swore an oath to the fathers. And it is part of His plan, so there is no, what if He didn't make a promise to the forefathers. It happened, because that is what God planned from before the foundation of the world.
Their failings matter. Paul is very specific. It is by their failings that the non-Jewish Gentiles receive the gospel. The level of hate within your soul puts you outside of the faith according to John in I John. You hate your brother with so much hate it is consuming you.
He was talking to everyone Luke said he was talking to which included proselytes.
It doesn't matter. When Jerusalem as a whole rejected Christ, Jesus said that they would not see Him again until they cry out "Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord". As they had rejected Christ, so He walked away and would not have anything to do with Jerusalem (Israel technically) until they accept Him as their Messiah. The prophecies of the Old Testament stand as part of God's plan in whole and in part. God will punsih Israel, and once He is done purifying the remnant, He will save them by His powerful outstretched hand.
That is not what Jesus told them to do. The Jews rejected Christ. Until they accept Christ the gospel is with the Gentiles. However, the blindness and hardening of Israel is only PARTIAL. There are plenty of Jews that God is saving every day as individuals. However, God is still set against Israel. Another however, it appears that God is getting ready to wrap everything up soon.
Did you know that Polycarp, apparently, a disciple of John, was a non-Hebrew Gentile? As were quite a few of the early church fathers. The non-Hebrew Gentiles are blessed in Christ due to God's promise to Abraham. AGAIN, I NEVER ONCE SAID COVENANT.
No they were not. Look at how the Gentiles at Cornelius house were treated, next to those at Jerusalem who would have been called Gentiles. COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. They weren't even going to baptise these Gentiles. They didn't even expect them to receive the Holy Spirit and speak in tongues... yet it happened. And when the Samaritans received Christ... no tongues. (Some assume, but it is not recorded there at all.) Tongues were used to show who would be a part of the CHURCH, not Israel. And the church is made up of Jews and Gentiles.
No, no they were not. They were uncircumcised, which if you are correct, they are SHUT OUT OF THE COVENANT for being uncircumcised. Again, even the hellenistic Jews were circumcised because they were still Jews. They attempted to hide their circumcision where nakedness in public was normal. (According to historians.) Jews are circumcised. Non-Hebrew Gentiles are not. Proselytes, such as the ones who heard Peter speak and accepted his message and were born again, were non-Hebrew Gentiles who chose to take up the Jewish heritage and faith. They were permitted to do that. And they could intermarry. Like Ruth.
Hebrews states that the Mosaic covenant was NULLIFIED. Why? The Jews broke that covenant. It is broken, in ashes on the ground. That is why the Jews are not receiving the blessings of the Abrahamic covenant at this time. They are under judgment and punishment of God until that time is fulfilled. Depending on what you think of prophecy, 1948 spelled the beginning of the end of God's judgments on Israel. The last week of Daniel, still on hold, is the final dealing of God with punishing Israel. When that is over, all the blessings that God promised the Jews will be theirs, to include a new, unbroken covenant.
You must REALLY hate context. If Paul came to them as he went to the Gentiles, they would have tore him up. These people were telling him that he needed to follow the ceremonies to be accepted. So, of course, Paul did it since he was a Jew as well. He had no issue with the ceremonies, they just don't save anyone. It is all, as Paul says, external. However, being born again is internal. Not the circumcision of the flesh, but circumcision of the heart.
You should read Galatians again. It doesn't mean what you think it means.
No it wasn't abolished, it was nullified. Read Hebrews. There would be no need for a second covenant if there was no problem with the first. The problem is that Israel BROKE that covenant, so a second covenant is necessary.
There is a covenat (of sorts) with CHRIST. It has nothing to do with the Abrahamic and Mosaic covenants, and everything to do with God saying these non-Hebrew Gentiles will be blessed in Christ. (Outside the covenant.) If you put a sprinkler on a garden, that garden is going to get watered. If you stand too close, you too will be "blessed".
The Samaritans ARE JEWS. It doesn't matter that the other Jews saw them beneath them, Jesus was clear they were not, despite what you are saying.
I see you failed to understand Galatians. That's fine. It is pretty clear.
Noahic covenant. Also the promise God made the serpent about Eve and her seed.
The above makes absolutely no sense. He chose Israel to be those from which Jesus would come forth. Paul did not say that salvation is FOR the Jews, but OF the Jews. Where it came from. Gentiles are not to forget that, hence Paul's stern rebuke of those Gentiles who would claim that the Jews have been shut out/rejected. God even takes the time to tell those Gentiles, through Paul, that God would not hesistate one moment to cut them out for pride. And, though the Jews are at this time cut off for UNBELIEF, by BELIEF, God will freely put them back in. God is being severe with Israel and kind with the Gentiles, however that will change. God will save the Jews.
Which has absolutely nothing to do with this. You see, by tradition, and by God's command, a King cannot be a High Priest. Uzziah paid dearly for it, as did Saul. However, Melchizedek was outside of Israel. Who was Melchizedek?
Christ did not die under the Law (so to speak.) Christ was perfect, so did not fall under the punishment of the Law. Being over the Law, He fulfilled it.
For the sins of the world, as scripture says. He is the propitiation of our sins, as well as the sins of the whole world. Again, Jesus died for the world, that is all people, without distinction. With exception, as universalism is a lie.
Them is the disciples... NOT YOU. Where are you and the rest of Israel and the Gentiles. (You sound like you are a Gentile who doesn't know, but blindly believes you MAY have Hebrew in your ancestry. Stop worrying. That will not save you. But the verses you need to be paying attention to are:
20 “I am not asking on behalf of these alone, but also for those who believe in Me through their word, 21 that they may all be one; just as You, Father, are in Me and I in You, that they also may be in Us, so that the world may [f]believe that You sent Me.
You keep forgetting about that nagging thing of context.
He did. Galatians speaks of salvation by faith, not the law or the covenant. By FAITH. Hebrews has a whole section that keeps saying BY FAITH this happened, that happened, etc. A large number of them. Genetiles have believed in Jesus through their words, as Cornelius and those non-Hebrew Gentiles with him believed Peter's words and were inducted into the church, complete with the Holy Spirit and speaking in tongues.
He didn't even pray for Israel. He prayed for His disciples. Context is king. Your beliefs are not.
I never said He did. I said that they are saved as Paul said, by FAITH.
He did no such thing. Israel rejected Him. They will accept Him, however, that won't be until He is done dealing with the Gentiles.
Please, show one thing in the Law that specifically states, Explicitly, word for word, non-Hebrew Gentiles cannot be saved. I can wait forever, because you aren't going to find it. What you are left with, if you can't find it, is saying that God violated the Law, and you are saying it with no fear. Just who are you that you can stand before God almighty, claim these things, and not have one iota of fear? The Law is not violated. Just as Jesus did not break the Law of the Sabbath, or with healing, or blaspheme, even though your Jews clearly stated He did. In the same way, you may want to sit this one out, for fear that you really would say something that God won't ignore. Gentiles are saved by grace, through faith, and that not of themselves, it is the gift [NOT COVENANT] of God, not of works [like keeping a covenant] lest anyone shouldst boast. Hebrews are also saved in Christ the same way. Hence Peter said, how could they refuse the water for the Gentiles who received the Holy Spirit in the same manner. (speaking in tongues.) God made it clear to them that day that the Gentiles would be PART OF THE CHURCH. Not part of ISRAEL. The CHURCH.
Now, if you are wrong in what you say, now you have said the same thing of Jesus with not fear.
So God just told you what the world He hates is. What don't you see there? The word GENTILE. It isn't there.
What are we to hate of the world? The lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life. Kind of like your pride. I'm not going to stand here and say I am born again. That is between me and God, and time will tell. But Paul said the righteous live by, FAITH.
"But the righteous one will live by his [e]faith." Habakkuk 2:4. The world includes ISRAEL. However, when God says world, He means the Satanic system of the world, with all of its lusts and sin. Do not love sin, love God.
I move about and have my being within my measure of faith.
I am well aware of that measure, too.
The bottom line is that God made no covenant with Gentiles. None.
If He did please, tell me that Gentile's name and where such covenant is described in the Old Testament.
I'd like to read about it with my own eyes.
