brightfame52
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Is all mankind in Christ? Yes or No
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brightfame52
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Is all mankind in Christ? Yes or No
civic
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Did Elijah die ?
Did Enoch die ?
Will all those alive at Christs coming die who are immediately caught up to be with the Lord ?
So all in adam die does not mean everyone. In the same way not every single human is in Christ.
1 Corinthians 15:51
I will explain a mystery to you. Not every one of us will die, but we will all be changed.
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a loud command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will be the first to rise. / After that, we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will always be with the Lord.
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civic
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crickets 
the critics have been silenced with the truth of Gods word above.
thats what happens when a solitary verse is used to support a doctrine. We see not everyone in adam actually dies.
at Christs return millions will not die.
and Enoch and Elijah did not die. So in both testaments not every single person dies in adam.
the critics have been silenced with the truth of Gods word above.
thats what happens when a solitary verse is used to support a doctrine. We see not everyone in adam actually dies.
at Christs return millions will not die.
and Enoch and Elijah did not die. So in both testaments not every single person dies in adam.
brightfame52
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No and your point
civic
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brightfame52
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They died spiritually in Adam, they were born dead in sin like everyone else, they didnt die physically, neither with the Living saints at His return, unless the change into glorified bodies is considered a sorta death to this physical body.
civic
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nope they did not die spiritually or physically- that is said noewhere in the bible about Enoch, Elijah or believers at Jesus Coming for His saints.
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brightfame52
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Thats error, they didnt die physically but all men died to God in adam
civic
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Nope I just showed you that’s not true
brightfame52
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You think you did.
civic
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I know I did. Jesus said the same thing since I quoted Him giving you the 2 reasons why.
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brightfame52
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You been deceived my friend
How is it Paul then died later?
Romans 7:8–10 (LEB) — 8 But sin, seizing an opportunity through the commandment, produced in me all kinds of covetousness. For apart from the law, sin is dead. 9 And I was alive once, apart from the law, but when the commandment came, sin sprang to life 10 and I died, and this commandment which was to lead to life was found with respect to me to lead to death.
brightfame52
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I don't know what you talking about. All men died in Adam
The question was
How is it Paul then died later?
Romans 7:8–10 (LEB) — 8 But sin, seizing an opportunity through the commandment, produced in me all kinds of covetousness. For apart from the law, sin is dead. 9 And I was alive once, apart from the law, but when the commandment came, sin sprang to life 10 and I died, and this commandment which was to lead to life was found with respect to me to lead to death.
Understand Paul was alive once apart from the law, but when the commandment came, he died.
He was not previously dead but alive; then he died.
According to your theology, however, he was born dead.
So how did he get alive so that he might later die?
brightfame52
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That's a different subject. Paul and everyone else was born dead in sin.
You ignore the issue
Paul indicates he was alive, and then he died as a result of sin.
Over and over you have ignored multiple verses because of your interpretation of certain verses,
that can never stand up when all scripture is examined.
brightfame52
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It has nothing to do with it. Im not taking time for you on that. Paul wrote that many be dead by Adams fall Rom 5:15
15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
