What is Evolution ?
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Jesus, the Holy Ghost teach. 1 Corinthians 2:12 "Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God." 1 Corinthians 2:13 "Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual." 1 Corinthians 2:14 "But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned." 1 Corinthians 2:15 "But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man." ...
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For a toothpick to exist, intelligent effort is required, I would think it would take intelligent effort to create anything we see in nature.
Making a toothpick involves harvesting wood (often birch or bamboo), debarking logs, peeling them into thin veneers, cutting the veneer into small rods, drying them, then precisely cutting and sharpening the ends into toothpicks, followed by polishing and packaging, often using automated machines for efficiency.
Making a toothpick involves harvesting wood (often birch or bamboo), debarking logs, peeling them into thin veneers, cutting the veneer into small rods, drying them, then precisely cutting and sharpening the ends into toothpicks, followed by polishing and packaging, often using automated machines for efficiency.
I respect what others believe to be true 
, I think it makes sense that someone designed all these complex systems and keeps them running everyday, is it possible that any human could design and build any of these systems, with their limited intelligence? 
What would happen to all "Plant and Animal life" if the Earth moved out of its habitable distance from the Sun for just one week? Or the ecosystem, the ozone layer, the magnetic field around the Earth, the water cycle, the Earth's atmosphere or the nitrogen cycle did not function for one week?
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Moving Earth out of the habitable zone, or disabling critical Earth systems even for just a week, would cause catastrophic, widespread death for nearly all plant and animal life.
, I think it makes sense that someone designed all these complex systems and keeps them running everyday, is it possible that any human could design and build any of these systems, with their limited intelligence? What would happen to all "Plant and Animal life" if the Earth moved out of its habitable distance from the Sun for just one week? Or the ecosystem, the ozone layer, the magnetic field around the Earth, the water cycle, the Earth's atmosphere or the nitrogen cycle did not function for one week?
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Moving Earth out of the habitable zone, or disabling critical Earth systems even for just a week, would cause catastrophic, widespread death for nearly all plant and animal life.
What does Charles Darwin say about the fossil record in 1859?
Yes, Charles Darwin published his seminal work, On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, in 1859, specifically on November 24, 1859, a publication date that sparked immediate scientific and public debate over his revolutionary theory of evolution through natural selection.
In 1859, when Charles Darwin's On the Origin of Species was first published, the fossil record was poorly known. Darwin described the perceived lack of transitional fossils as "the most obvious and gravest objection which can be urged against my theory," but he explained it by relating it to the extreme imperfection of the geological record.
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The fossil record shows a rapid burst of change, new species appearing seemingly out of nowhere, then remaining unchanged, for millions of years, the fossil record doesn't show gradual change. --by Stephen Jay Gould and Niles Eldredge were American paleontologists and evolutionary biologists, in 1972.
Yes, Charles Darwin published his seminal work, On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, in 1859, specifically on November 24, 1859, a publication date that sparked immediate scientific and public debate over his revolutionary theory of evolution through natural selection.
In 1859, when Charles Darwin's On the Origin of Species was first published, the fossil record was poorly known. Darwin described the perceived lack of transitional fossils as "the most obvious and gravest objection which can be urged against my theory," but he explained it by relating it to the extreme imperfection of the geological record.
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The fossil record shows a rapid burst of change, new species appearing seemingly out of nowhere, then remaining unchanged, for millions of years, the fossil record doesn't show gradual change. --by Stephen Jay Gould and Niles Eldredge were American paleontologists and evolutionary biologists, in 1972.
Are the ones who designed and produced the machinery to make toothpicks the ones who make toothpicks? Probably not. In fact the ones who designed the machines probably are not even the ones who make the machines. Where does the "design" really begin. It is that old saying (I forget who said it), if you want to really bake an apple pie from scratch you have to first start with a universe. What was the design? Any decent geologist can tell you where to look for gold. Did God put the gold where it is or did He design the system that ends up putting the gold where it is? Did God put the Milky Way where it is in the universe, or did He design the system which ends up putting the Milky Way where it is?
There is a story about an argument between Satan and God in which Satan tells God, "Making man is no big deal, I can do that". To which God says," Okay, show me". Satan reaches down to grab a bunch of dirt. God says, "Huh uh, that's my dirt".
I express to you sound reasoning and what do you give me in return, a bunch of irrelevant words that don't even explain why you believe what you believe, is what you explained supposed to make some kind of sense?
Could you please explain your one strongest reason why You believe your view is correct?
I don't think I even expressed a view let alone said what I believe. I simply asked some questions. You have put forth some words about design, but it is not clear that you know what design is, particularly where God is concerned.
When you read, And God said, "Let there be light, and there was light {Gen 1:3)", is that a statement of creation or the result of a basic design?
I think it is a piece of Truth God is explaining through his word in the Bible by Moses.
I have an idea, maybe you have a better idea
please let me know. What if we both just give comments that reflect some of our strongest reasons why our view makes sense? And then after we have both listed our Strongest reasons, we can both objectively take a look at all the reasons that we both have explained.Instead of words and questions about every little thing. We both explain our strongest reasons for our different conclusions.
I think the general pr typical presentation of the history of the universe is in pretty good agreement with the Genesis account of the creation, when properly interpreted and understood.
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I respect what others believe to be true
What would happen to all "Plant and Animal life" if the Earth moved out of its habitable distance from the Sun for just one week? Or the ecosystem, the ozone layer, the magnetic field around the Earth, the water cycle, the Earth's atmosphere or the nitrogen cycle did not function for one week?
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Moving Earth out of the habitable zone, or disabling critical Earth systems even for just a week, would cause catastrophic, widespread death for nearly all plant and animal life.
God did not create this reality of earth based on decay and death, as physics admits.
I wait for that day the sun ceases! Eden can return and this dungeon never to be remembered.
As for systems.. anything good here was stolen from us and God due to the fall... waxing about its good features is not relevant therefore.
we are in the fallen reality God Literally told adam is Death.
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neither. none of the above... those options are corruptions passed off on us to keep us under the sealed vision.
I think both the Bible's explanation and the scientific explanation by the majority are correct. To see how that can be Dr. Gerald Schroeder has explained how both the Bible's account and the Scientific account can both be simultaneously true.
Go here: https://aish.com/the-age-of-the-universe-one-reality-viewed-from-two-different-perspectives/
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It seems that you do not really understand either of those options.
If you read the Genesis account of the creation .....WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT..... you will see that there are only three occasions when God created. The first is in Genesis 1:1 in the creation of the "heavens and earth". The second is Genesis 1:21 in the creation of life in the sea. The third is in Genesis 1:27 in the creation of man in His own image. The Holy Spirit is careful to distinguish between the Hebrew words "bara" [create], "‛âśâh" [make] and "hâyâh" [let there be].
The Hebrew word "bara" [create] when used in connection with God always denotes creation ex nihilo, i.e., creation from nothing. The first creation ex nihilo is the brute universe with all the mass, energy and governing natural law, i.e., the non-biological physical universe. The second creation ex nihilo is the biological life and the governing natural law, i.e., the biological physical universe. The third creation is spirit of man. Everything else is a "let there be" or "make" which are those physical entities derived from what has been created ex nihilo along with the governing natural law.
