What is Evolution ?
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101G
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To all,
the Main question in Genesis 1 and 2 is the "TIME" question. when was Adam "CREATED" ... day 3 or day 6. 101G say day 3 based on these scriptures.
A. Genesis 2:18 "And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him." Genesis 2:19 "And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof."
WHY mention Adam being "alone", first and then formed the animals?
B. Genesis 2:4 "These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens," Genesis 2:5 "And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground." Genesis 2:6 "But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground." Genesis 2:7 "And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."
Here clearly man was "FORMED" ... "BEFORE" the plants, and herbs as recorded in Chapter 1 verses 9-13, and this was day 3 or before.
now one other revelation. God, the Lord Jesus, not as Christ "MADE" all things. scripture, Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." Genesis 1:2 "And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters." Genesis 1:3 "And God said, Let there be light: and there was light." The KEY to God's plurality as one (PERSON), LAY in the term "LIGHT" here in this third verse. as well in the term "GOD", itself.
it's amazing how God will put information right in front of us and we yet see it not.
ONE other thing to consider about CREATE and MADE. the Natural Sun was CREATED in the beginning, before any DAY, and was MADE or instigated to shine on day 4.
101G.
the Main question in Genesis 1 and 2 is the "TIME" question. when was Adam "CREATED" ... day 3 or day 6. 101G say day 3 based on these scriptures.
A. Genesis 2:18 "And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him." Genesis 2:19 "And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof."
WHY mention Adam being "alone", first and then formed the animals?
B. Genesis 2:4 "These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens," Genesis 2:5 "And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground." Genesis 2:6 "But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground." Genesis 2:7 "And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."
Here clearly man was "FORMED" ... "BEFORE" the plants, and herbs as recorded in Chapter 1 verses 9-13, and this was day 3 or before.
now one other revelation. God, the Lord Jesus, not as Christ "MADE" all things. scripture, Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." Genesis 1:2 "And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters." Genesis 1:3 "And God said, Let there be light: and there was light." The KEY to God's plurality as one (PERSON), LAY in the term "LIGHT" here in this third verse. as well in the term "GOD", itself.
it's amazing how God will put information right in front of us and we yet see it not.
ONE other thing to consider about CREATE and MADE. the Natural Sun was CREATED in the beginning, before any DAY, and was MADE or instigated to shine on day 4.
101G.
TibiasDad
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What part of mankind, both male and female, is hard to understand? The human race, holistically, was created on day six. Sequentially, male first and female second, from Adam’s rib. The race as a species began on day six.
Again, the sequential order of creation is Genesis 1. All subsequent expressions of creation are founded on this order. Even someone of my education can understand that 1 comes before 2.
Doug
101G
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(smile), Oh Lord, male and female is not hard to understand for 101G, for, both was (made on day 6). so why is it so hard for you to understand, that Adam and Eve were created on day 3, (for she was in Adam). and Eve was brought forth/forward on day 6, (the gender made). you cannot understand that?
101G.
I would suggest that all interested in this subject look into the work of Hugh Ross at Reasons.org and also the work of Gerald Schoeder at geraldschoeder.com. Both of these sources provide some very interesting views concerning the coordination of current modern-day science and the word of God.
civic
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Amazing to say the least . It just makes one shake their head in unbelief at how some twist the plain and simple meaning of the text.
It reminds me how the devil works. Hath God said.
TibiasDad
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Adam’s rib was in Adam. Adam’s rib was removed from Adam. Adam’s rib, being removed, was fashioned into a Woman that had not yet existed to that point in time- which is obvious, because God said that Adam was “alone”, meaning there was no female counterpart or anyone else who belonged to Adam’s species, in existence.
Saying Eve was “in Adam” is a figurative image not a literal one. The only actual, literal thing that was in Adam was his soon to be taken rib.
If you are correct, then every single one of us were there are Day 3, because we all were “in Adam”: as usual, I was asleep and missed the whole thing!
Doug
civic
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Yep
101G
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#1. Let's STOP here for a second. you said, "because God said that Adam was “alone”, meaning there was no female counterpart or anyone else who belonged to Adam’s species, in existence". Good, because of Adam being ALONE, he made the animals,
Genesis 2:18 "And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him." LISTEN to what God dose next after making the declaration that Man being "ALONE." Genesis 2:19 "And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof."
God formed the animals .... AFTER Adam.
101G
101G
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that's right....... (smile), ... to come. was not God through Adam the originator of all to COME..... (smile).... why do you think prophecy is called prophecy? .... (smile). God knows the BEGINNING and the END.
need to add this, Jeremiah 1:5 "Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations."
101G.
101G
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well learn them......
YIKES! Genealogy is a HISTORY, and God is that HISTORY... Isaiah 46:10 "Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:"101G.
civic
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Foreknowledge so what it doesn’t change a thing it’s your diversion tactic to avoid the literal text in Genesis 1-2.well learn them......
101G.
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101G
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Speaking of Gods literal word in Genesis. Genesis 2:18 "And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him." Genesis 2:19 "And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof."
HELP MEET: H5828 עֵזֶר `ezer (ay'-zer) n-m.
aid.
[from H5826]
KJV: help.
Root(s): H5826
animals help, or aid man in maintaining this planet eco systems.
but a "MATE" ... NOT "MEET" is,
MATE: H7468 רְעוּת r`uwth (reh-ooth') n-f.
1. a female associate.
2. (generally) an additional one.
[from H7462 in the sense of H7453]
KJV: + another, mate, neighbour.
Root(s): H7462
See also: H7453, G4139
101G.
HELP MEET: H5828 עֵזֶר `ezer (ay'-zer) n-m.
aid.
[from H5826]
KJV: help.
Root(s): H5826
animals help, or aid man in maintaining this planet eco systems.
but a "MATE" ... NOT "MEET" is,
MATE: H7468 רְעוּת r`uwth (reh-ooth') n-f.
1. a female associate.
2. (generally) an additional one.
[from H7462 in the sense of H7453]
KJV: + another, mate, neighbour.
Root(s): H7462
See also: H7453, G4139
101G.
101G
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that's the best respond you can give? look up the term "Help meet"... (smile). this is why the animals was made.... Genesis 2:20 "And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him." ....... oh my God this is too easy.
101G.
civic
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Eve was Adam’s help mate, Adam was alone. Humans not animals are created in Gods image. The man/ women reflect the plural God. The two become one as the Father, Son, Holy Spirit are one, yet district in Persons.
Your false teaching has been exposed for all true believes to see.
hope this helps !!!
Your false teaching has been exposed for all true believes to see.
hope this helps !!!
101G
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(smile), that's why animals are "HELP MEETS", which are not of Adam, flesh nor BONE... hence, "but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him"... hello,
now,
ERROR, the Plurality of God is "OF" himself. just as Eve was in ADAM, and LATTER BROUGHT FORTH, or MANIFESTED in flesh and bone, for she is ADAM also. supportive scripture, Genesis 5:1 "This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;" Genesis 5:2 "Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created." . the woman is a ADAM also, just a female ADAM.
so, or likewise is the Lord Jesus of, of, of, God. listen,
God: H430 אֱלֹהִים 'elohiym (el-o-heem') n-m.
אֱלֹהֵי 'elohiy (el-o-hee') [alternate plural]
1. (literally) supreme ones.
2. (hence, in the ordinary sense) gods.
3. (specifically, in the plural, especially with the article) the Supreme God (i.e. the all supreme).
4. (sometimes) supreme, used as a superlative.
5. (occasionally, by way of deference) supreme magistrates, the highest magistrates of the land.
6. (also) the supreme angels (entities of unspecified type).
[plural of H433]
KJV: angels, X exceeding, God (gods)(-dess, -ly), X (very) great, judges, X mighty.
Root(s): H433
Compare: H5945, H7706, H8199, H4397
[plural of H433] ..... "OF?" yes OF, ..... of who?
H433 אֱלוֹהַּ 'elowahh (el-o'-ah) n-m.
אֱלֹהַּ 'eloahh (el-o'-ah) [shortened (rarely)]
1. one with supreme strength and ability.
2. the Supreme Being, God the Creator,
3. a supreme entity, a god-like creature (that is, one of God's supreme creations, or one of man's inventions).
[probably prolonged (emphat.) from H410]
KJV: God, god.
Root(s): H410
the KEYWORD is "of". of translates the genitive case of nouns, with various shades of meaning. Of these the subjective and objective are mentioned here, which need careful distinction
The subjective: Spirit, LORD/Father/First/Beginning/Alpha...... WHO created all things.
The objective: Spirit, (spirt), SHARED in Flesh, Lord/Son/Last/Omega ..... WHO Redeemed all things that he created.
101G.
