What is Evolution ?

Thats where we have a vast difference of opinion as I don't see anywhere in scripture that existed before the 6 days of creation.
I don't either. I just have a different interpretation and meaning of the word "day" in the Genesis creation account. With that what I believe to be the scientific account of the history of the universe and what I believe to be the Genesis account of the history of the universe is almost identical.
And another thing is everything God created had age built into it including man. So there is an "appearance " of age when there really is none. adam was created as an adult. The heavens are the same.
The Bible makes no claim that Adam was created as an adult. That is your assumption. And no, age is not built into anything. The age of anything and everything is just the effect of the passage of time,
 
I lean towards this below :

We believe the Genesis account is to be taken literally just as it was written. It teaches the world was created in six, twenty- four hour days about 6,000 years ago; there was no gap. There was no period of time before the original creation. There was actually no time. God made time as well as matter and space. Perhaps Satan did not fall from heaven until about one hundred years after the creation. He could not have fallen before the creation because he was spoken about in the book of Ezekiel as being good while in the garden. Look at Ezekiel 28:13-15, “Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.” He was Lucifer, a good angel or cherub, and he was in the Garden. The Garden of Eden wasn’t made until day six, so that shoots the gap theory full of holes right there. Not only that, but Jesus said in Matthew 19:4 that the creation of Adam and Eve was the beginning. Read what it says: “And he answered and said unto them, “Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female.” Romans 5:12 says that there was no death until Adam sinned, “Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned.” Those who say that Satan fell from heaven and wiped out the pre-Adamic civilization are placing death before sin. They have just eliminated the need for Christ to die on the cross. There was no death until sin came into the world. Exodus 20:11 states, “For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea and all that in them is…” This is found in the middle of the Ten Commandments.

God made the whole universe in six, literal twenty-four-hour days, including time, the angels, and everything that is. What day He made the angels is not known since the Genesis story is mainly telling events on the earth. The angels were probably made on the first day, before God laid the foundations of the earth (Job 38:4-7 and Genesis 1:9). Genesis 1:31 tells us everything was very good at the end of the creation week, so Satan had not fallen yet. Satan did not fall until after the creation, maybe as long as one hundred or so years later. All that we know is Adam was 130 when Seth was born. That is the first date given in Scripture. Before Seth, they had Cain and Abel, but dates are not given. Before he had Cain and Abel, they were removed from the garden. Therefore, it would have been somewhere around a hundred years during which time Satan may have become jealous of the fellowship that Adam and Eve enjoyed with God. Satan may have observed their relationship for one hundred years and said, “Hey, I want them to worship me! I want to rule humanity. I want to walk with them in the garden. I will ascend unto the high heavens. I will take over the seat of the Most High. I will, I will, I will” (Isaiah 14:12-15).

The fall could not have been in the original creation because he was still the light bearer in the Garden of Eden.creationtoday.org

hope this helps !!!
 
I don't either. I just have a different interpretation and meaning of the word "day" in the Genesis creation account. With that what I believe to be the scientific account of the history of the universe and what I believe to be the Genesis account of the history of the universe is almost identical.

The Bible makes no claim that Adam was created as an adult. That is your assumption. And no, age is not built into anything. The age of anything and everything is just the effect of the passage of time,
you think adam sinned as an infant ? not an adult ?

how can an infant rule over the earth ?

do infants till the land or name the animals ?

can infants choose to obey God ?

did God create from adam from his rib as his wife ?

was she also an infant ?

can infants become one flesh ?

listen to what you are assuming.................
 
you think adam sinned as an infant ? not an adult ?

do infants till the land or name the animals ?

can infants choose to obey God ?

did God create from adam from his rib as his wife ?

was she also an infant ?

can infants become one flesh ?

listen to what you are assuming.................
The bible does not say anything about how old Adam was when he sinned. Again you are inserting your [I think false] interpretation of the meaning of the word "day" into everything.
 
Let me say a couple of things here. What one chooses to believe concerning the history of the universe is quite up to him. And whether it is a belief in a literal meaning attached to Genesis or not does not determine his salvation. I do not care one way or the other. What I do care about is the attempt by some to think that any literal meaning attached to the Genesis account of creation is any basis for any scientific study. And it certainly should not be presented as having any relation to science or presented as such. It can rightfully be presented and taught as a religious belief or a philosophical approach, but not science.
 
you think adam sinned as an infant ? not an adult ?

how can an infant rule over the earth ?

do infants till the land or name the animals ?

can infants choose to obey God ?

did God create from adam from his rib as his wife ?

was she also an infant ?

can infants become one flesh ?

listen to what you are assuming.................

I do agree. All living things in the beginning were created mature. The "cycle" of human life is actually part of the consequence/results of man's responsibility in his own creations.
 
The is nothing in that verse about the Sabbath Day.
6 days the Lord created on the Sabbath Day He rested from His works.

According to Exodus 20:9-11, God used six literal days to create the world in order to serve as a model for man's work week: work six days, rest one. The literal 7th day is the Sabbath Day- the Day of rest. Its a 24 hour day.

I mean c'mon its even in the 10 commandments in plain sight for everyone to read, see and understand.

Exodus 20:9-11
Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is a sabbath to the Lord your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your male or female servant, nor your animals, nor any foreigner residing in your towns. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day.Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.

should I believe Gods commandments or you ?

I think I will go with God on this one with REAL LITERAL DAYS- 24 hour periods of time.

conclusion:the days of creation are literal 24 hour days just like the 7 day work week resting on the 7th day- the Sabbath Day

hope this helps !!!
 
6 days the Lord created on the Sabbath Day He rested from His works.

According to Exodus 20:9-11, God used six literal days to create the world in order to serve as a model for man's work week: work six days, rest one. The literal 7th day is the Sabbath Day- the Day of rest. Its a 24 hour day.

I mean c'mon its even in the 10 commandments in plain sight for everyone to read, see and understand.

Exodus 20:9-11
Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is a sabbath to the Lord your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your male or female servant, nor your animals, nor any foreigner residing in your towns. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day.Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.

should I believe Gods commandments or you ?

I think I will go with God on this one with REAL LITERAL DAYS- 24 hour periods of time.

conclusion:the days of creation are literal 24 hour days just like the 7 day work week resting on the 7th day- the Sabbath Day

hope this helps !!!
There is nothing about God's establishing the Sabbath on the seventh day of the earthly week after having created the universe that demands the word "day" in the Genesis creation account to be a 24-hour day.
 
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