As I reported in the other forum where we traded posts on this "prophecy," Only the claim of immigration is correct. Everything else is incorrect, therefore false, and therefor proof the Valdres prophecy did not come from God.
Incorrect according to whom? You? I'm sure there are plenty of historians who would disagree with you. (That it isn't correct. Obviously they will not feel as you see to that it could have anything to do with God. (The op as well.)
There is no Third World War, while Church attendance has decreased in Europe it has remained constant worldwide and increased in Asia and Africa.
There are experts out there who will not only disagree with you, but believe that the third world war has already started.The main players are already on the field. Russia, North Korea, Iran, China, etc. North Korea has already been on the ground in Ukraine, and China is supplying equipment. Now, if I recall, you are a Calvinist, so I can't let what you said about the church to slide. The prophecy, and when a true believer speaks of the church growing, has nothing to do with the number of people sitting in the pew. The church is the body of Christ. It has been decreasing for a long time, but it has accelerated greatly to the point that most people going to church couldn't tell you about Christ or Christian things. They are just there. I think it has been said that the majority (it may not be, I don't remember exactly right now) of pastors don't even believe in Adam and Eve. Without Adam and Eve there is no basis for sin, and no basis for Christ.
Immorality in television (cable, subscriptions, etc.) has increased, but its increase is relevant to the start of television and not the history of the world in which there have much more egregious periods (like during the days of Imperial Rome) and the most wholesome movies and shows still persist as the overwhelming more popular content.
This is where you go off the rails a little bit. The "prophecy" isn't talking about the world, it is talking about Norway. If you dont' know the history of Norway, you have no standing in this. Norway was...uh... different. There were plenty of times in just life where immorality could have taken place, but... it didn't. This is why the woman is so shocked/distraught to believe it would become so widespread. This is Romans 1 in action, if one believes the Bible.
The claims of immigration are true but, again, relative. Immigration has always occurred during times of distress in the world. Massive immigration occurred during the Napoleonic Wars, the plagues, and rise and fall of most empires. That the current immigration occurs from the Middle East in Europe and the southern Americas in the US is temporally new, but not historically prophetic. It is, however, the closest this 90-year-old woman came to truth. Military spending has NOT decreased and there hasn't been a nuclear bomb used in 75 years (her prophecy occurred at a time when hysterics about "the bomb" were very high), nuclear arsenals have decreased since she first spoke, and if even a tenth of the nuclear weapons existing were employed all life would eventually cease to exist.
You seem to be ignorant of the events in the world. There was a huge immigration about a decade or two ago, where, for the first time, Muslims were immigrating en masse. Sweden is the best example for this prophecy because what happened there, and is still happening, is a perfect reflection of what the prophecy says. The Swedish people are coming to HATE the Muslims with a passion, because the Muslims REFUSE to assimilate. There are places in Sweden that you don't go because it is so violent due to the Muslim presence. They never had off limits places before... I believe it is the same in London.
As for the war going nuclear, I don't think you realize how close Putin was to pushing the button. Russia actually changed its nuclear doctrine to make it EASIER for Putin to go and push the button. He gave a specific instance, as an example, as to what would fall under the umbrella requiring a nuclear response. Biden, about two weeks later, told Ukraine, go ahead. However, someone used some restraint, and they didn't go far enough, but if they had, you would have had the opportunity to see a nuclear war. All they had to do was target the wrong thing.
None of the prophecy has come to pass.
A lot of it has come to pass. However, I'm not so sure it is a prophecy. I don't believe it is so much a prophecy as a dream affected by what they had been reading in the Bible. A lot of what is there is, "the water is wet" type prophecy. Obvious. Like the prophecy someone made after the Iran attack by Trump. Justin Peters came out and said, good to know that water is still wet.
As for the rest, prophecy is not for today. However, that does not mean that God doesn't speak today through His word, and possibly through dreams. It isn't a spiritual gift. I think a lot of what was written above is because what was said goes against your belief, so you are fighting it. When looking back, a lot of what was said is, the water is wet, so you are arguing against water being wet. Just because people didn't realize that allowing muslims into their country would be a disaster, doesn't mean that there weren't people who already knew. (There were people who already knew and warned about it.) A lack of knowledge of the world and what is happening is not a valid reason to say "none of the prophecy has come to pass". Most of the prophecy has come to pass, but I would still say that it is "water is wet". That is why I agree with those who say there may not have been a old woman, and this is the pastor talking about things that had already happened.
