Why Nobody Graduates From The Bible?

[Runningman]

so you are backing off your claim that people will become additional gods. You are backing off saying followers of Christ become official anointed ones as if Christians also became God like Jesus.
The instructions are to live in unity, good temperament, taking care of the poor, humility. These make us adherents closer to his teachings but do not make us anointed ones independent of God's Spirit in us.

Honestly, you are so far out in left field in this one that I have no idea what you're talking about. You seem to have imagined I said things that I never did. What I see is you also seem to reject being Christ-like. I think you are so scared that you don't know what to believe anymore because everything looks like a nail to you and the only tool you have is a hammer. Sometimes, you should exercise some good judgement and sound reasoning, but you seem to be on an out of control downward spiral at this point. Maybe when you lose debates you should just let it be instead of making it worse.

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[mikesw]

Honestly, you are so far out in left field in this one that I have no idea what you're talking about. You seem to have imagined I said things that I never did. What I see is you also seem to reject being Christ-like. I think you are so scared that you don't know what to believe anymore because everything looks like a nail to you and the only tool you have is a hammer. Sometimes, you should exercise some good judgement and sound reasoning, but you seem to be on an out of control downward spiral at this point. Maybe when you lose debates you should just let it be.

really? So Christian doctrine is repugnant to you and conveys the sense of being out of control? Sorry you feel that way. I can hardly be lost because Christ is in me. You just have yourself in yourself.

 

[Runningman]

really? So Christian doctrine is repugnant to you and conveys the sense of being out of control? Sorry you feel that way. I can hardly be lost because Christ is in me. You just have yourself in yourself.

Then why do you reject having the divine nature as Peter taught?

 

[mikesw]

Then why do you reject having the divine nature as Peter taught?

I have Christ's Spirit in me. Did you miss that? I guess it is foreign to unitarians that Christians receive the Holy Spirit as a guarantee of the inheritance. That does not mean we become divine but that we enjoy God's divinity in us. Your questions are like ones from an atheist.

 

[mikesw]

Then why do you reject having the divine nature as Peter taught?

Here is a commentary introducing 2 Peter

A third mark of lateness is the phrase ‘that you may participate in the divine nature’ (1:4). This certainly looks startling, but the form of the expression has now been paralleled by the Decree of Strationicea to the honour of Zeus and Hecate. Further, contemporaries such as Philo, Stobaeus and Josephus use similar language,38 which shows that this sort of talk was current coin in the first century AD, and as such Peter could have used it for his purpose as readily as the modern preacher talks of the quantum theory without in the least necessarily understanding all its implications. But is the idea, of being partaker of the divine nature, too advanced for Peter? It is intrinsically no different from being born from above (John 3:3; Jas 1:18; 1 Pet 1:23), being the temple of the Holy Spirit (1 Cor. 6:19), being in Christ (Rom. 8:1) or being the dwelling-place of the Trinity (John 14:17–23).
Michael Green, 2 Peter and Jude, 33.

The idea certainly comports to one being led by the Spirit, setting one's mind on the things of the Spirit (Rom 8:5). It is not becoming a god like you imagine or becoming an anointed one, as if you are Christ Jesus.

 

[Runningman]

I have Christ's Spirit in me. Did you miss that? I guess it is foreign to unitarians that Christians receive the Holy Spirit as a guarantee of the inheritance. That does not mean we become divine but that we enjoy God's divinity in us. Your questions are like ones from an atheist.

You're nothing like Christ. You don't have the same God, you don't believe the same things, etc.

 

[Runningman]

Here is a commentary introducing 2 Peter

The idea certainly comports to one being led by the Spirit, setting one's mind on the things of the Spirit (Rom 8:5). It is not becoming a god like you imagine or becoming an anointed one, as if you are Christ Jesus.

Futile efforts to explain away Peter explicitly stating that Christians can have the divine nature of God. The only reason you would introduce commentaries to add on to what the Bible already plainly says would be if what the Bible says is a threat to you. Why do you not want the divine nature of God? It's because you think God is a nature and that those who possess His nature are God, i.e., it's one of talking points you use to claim Jesus is God. As you are discovering, the deity of Jesus has long since been debunked. We are just waiting for you to catch up to it.

 

[mikesw]

You're nothing like Christ. You don't have the same God, you don't believe the same things, etc.

You are a little closer to say I'm not like Christ. I'm not deity. I also am not Messiah. I am one reconciled with God through grace.

Indeed I do not follow your god since you deny the true God of scripture. I just am not able to deny the evidence of Jesus' divinity in the Godhead and of his pre-existence. You fail to consider such details. But we are here to guide you to Christ Jesus, if you have ears to hear.

 

[mikesw]

Futile efforts to explain away Peter explicitly stating that Christians can have the divine nature of God. The only reason you would introduce commentaries to add on to what the Bible already plainly says would be if what the Bible says is a threat to you. Why do you not want the divine nature of God? It's because you think God is a nature and that those who possess His nature are God, i.e., it's one of talking points you use to claim Jesus is God. As you are discovering, the deity of Jesus has long since been debunked. We are just waiting for you to catch up to it.

You are on an island of interpretation all your own. You do not accept guidance from people who have researched things. The deeper details of scripture along with the making of doctrine require study and require building upon other people's expertise. Obviously those details are repugnant to you -- having eyes but unable to see.

 

[Runningman]

You are a little closer to say I'm not like Christ. I'm not deity. I also am not Messiah. I am one reconciled with God through grace.

Indeed I do not follow your god since you deny the true God of scripture. I just am not able to deny the evidence of Jesus' divinity in the Godhead and of his pre-existence. You fail to consider such details. But we are here to guide you to Christ Jesus, if you have ears to hear.

It would help if you could stop imposing your beliefs on Scripture. This isn't a Biblical problem for you, it's a blindness problem. The Bible never says "Jesus is in the Godhead" nor does the Bible define the word "Godhead" as a trinity. Now what? Are you going to follow the terminology and definitions the Bible uses or not?

 

[Runningman]

You are on an island of interpretation all your own. You do not accept guidance from people who have researched things. The deeper details of scripture along with the making of doctrine require study and require building upon other people's expertise. Obviously those details are repugnant to you -- having eyes but unable to see.

Partaking in the divine nature means sharing the divine nature. It isn't a token sort of sharing the divine nature of God, but a literal sharing. It's still there in Peter's letter. As much as you would like to strip Christians of the divine nature, you can't.

2 Peter 1​

4Through these He has given us His precious and magnificent promises, so that through them you may become partakers of the divine nature, now that you have escaped the corruption in the world caused by evil desires.​

Also, it wasn't only Peter who went around the Roman empire telling everyone this. Paul did it too.

Romans 8​

29For those God foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brothers.​

Colossians 3​

10and have put on the new self, which is being renewed in knowledge in the image of its Creator.​

So did John:

1 John 3​

2Beloved, we are now children of God, and what we will be has not yet been revealed. We know that when Christ appears, we will be like Him, for we will see Him as He is. 3And everyone who has this hope in Him purifies himself, just as Christ is pure.​