Title: So You Think Predestination Started When and With Whom?

[Red Baker]

@jeremiah1five

Knowing these two things and realizing back in 1977 I became born-again the only conclusion I can reach is that there is at least ONE Hebrew parent in my ancestry. Given that my mother's maiden name originated centuries ago in Spain in a Jewish grotto, does cause me to wonder. But the above is true. The only way for me - a presumed Gentile - to have the Holy Spirit of Promise in my born-again life is that there MUST be a Hebrew parent in my family line.

So, your hope of eternal life is that you have Jewish blood in your veins. Jeremiah if that's what you are trusting in then your faith is worthless, and not according to the scriptures. This should concern you, but obviously it does not. Let's say, you do not, then what?

1st John 5:1​

“Whosoever (Jew or Gentile) believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.”

John 1:13​

“Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.”

Jeremiah, both of these scriptures and hundreds more, said that you are in serious error.

Abraham is the father of many nations of people, not just Jews.

A few years back when I had my own business, (irrigation and landscaping) I was doing a job for a gentleman named Dr. Schwartz a foot doctor. As I was working installing the irrigation system, I said to one of my foreman's ......."I wish I had not let Dr. Schwartz jew me down'...., without even thinking. His wife was somewhere close enough to hear me, even though I did not see her, and she told her husband what I said. When I was there collecting and showing Mr. Schwartz how to use his system, he mentioned this to me and said he did not appreciate me saying that since his people had suffered so much at the hands of Adolf Hilter, etc. I apologize to him and reminded him that I would never offend the Jewish people, since Abraham was my spiritual father, making me more a son of Abraham than any natural Jew was. He was taken back with that and just left the subject alone.

As side note, my foreman whose name was John said to me: " I do not know why he got so upset, when I never get upset when someone said to me........... I got to use the john"! I think John had a good point.

 

[jeremiah1five]

Werewolf.


Very true.


I did also.


I understand as did I when I got the conviction of the Holy Spirit that no one could ever doubt.


AND PATIENCE>


I used to almost daily. Funny that,,,, the forum ( all of them) seem to be so down on that. Twice I had personal confirmation.
Once , as it seemed like I was praying or speaking in tongues it seemed quite repetitious to me, and I was not around anyone who could interpret. so I put as it sounded into the computer and it came back as a mideastern language.
Then, a few years later I was speaking a different tongue. It was fact because I could never roll my Rs. Had trouble keeping the grades up in high school French because of that. And when my mother died and my dad remarried a lady of Italian decent
she decided we all needed to speak Italian, just in case we got to Italy (never did) and again, I could not roll my Rs, so imagine the day I was speaking in tongues and just as easy and fluidly cam those beautiful rolled Rs. It was the onlt time, and to this day my tongue defies me that way.

This is truly great for you.


As it should be. Only between you.

Interesting you recorded yourself and put your tongue in a computer.
Overall, I'd say you are brethren.
Let's fight!

 

[jeremiah1five]

@jeremiah1five

I've been in the faith for over fifty years and have never spoken is an unknown tongue, never. I have never given my flesh over to be used in any way, but have maintain control of my spirt, submitting myself to God's word as the only source of my faith.

Jeremiah, we have spoken many times over, and I truly believe you have been deceived and are living under a strong delusion, thinking that eternal life is in the blood line of Abraham, and not by the grace of God through Jesus' shed blood. I'm not saying you are not a child of God, that is not by call, but, I can tell you that you are deceived in thinking God is not visiting the Gentiles to take out of them a people for his name sake, to join them with elect Jews, to make one holy spiritual temple in Jesus Christ.

When I first became a Christian, I was taught by a pastor who was taught by Assemblies of God.
The sermons were a mixture of Arminianism and Calvinism as I look back. It took me some years to recognize this.
This church was strong on evangelism and going into the streets and witnessing whoever.
As I got more familiar with my Sword (and I always used a KJV) there were things said from the pulpit at times that didn't jive with what was written. Throughout all these years I continued in personal study and used commentaries and then theology books. James Strong was my linguist. I only used his definitions because most of the other concordances would "lead the witness" in their definition entries by telling me how to use the word and what the word meant. Strong's didn't do that. If I look up a word, I will get a one-word corresponding definition and I am left with thinking things through and of course, under the anointing.
As my knowledge grew so did my understanding. In 1995 I spoke in tongues, and this changed me and my studying, especially in light of the interpretation of my tongues. I learned my call, my place in the body, and my spiritual gifts.
I received counseling from my pastor as we later sat in her office, and we went over what was recorded, and I was counseled. Then, I was sent out. Soon, I had moved away too far from my adopted church to attend but was now walking as a man of God on my own.

I had learned through theology books all the doctrines held in Christendom. I know them all.
Now, on the point you bring up thinking I am deceived I will tell you what I see and what I know.
I know God does not lie.
I know that God made a covenant with a Hebrew man named Abram. Abram is a descendant of Eber, and his family goes all the way back to Shem, Noah's son.
Abraham's covenant is found in Genesis 12, 15, and 17.
It's quite simple and I'm surprised I haven't met too many who see as I see on the subject.
I know God is dealing with one man and his wife. They are half-brother and sister and both from the family of Eber.
When I come across "nations" and "families of the earth" I believe that since Abraham is to be the father of millions the "nations" and "families of the earth" must be in context to Abraham and his future seed. If God was to include non-Hebrew Gentiles (descendants of Ham and Japheth) He would be as precise by saying "Gentile" and also revealing the name of this Gentile with whom it is said God made covenant with. But I don't find that in Scripture. And I cannot interpret "nations" and "families of the earth" as Gentiles because if Gentiles were to be included in this covenant it would say so and not leave words like "nations" and "families of the earth" up to be interpreted as Gentiles or non-Hebrews.
God is personal. There are countless men and women in Scripture God reveals Himself to and for the most part these persons are named. There is interaction. But for some reason there is nothing in Scripture of a non-Hebrew Gentiles whom God has blessed with covenant. I don't see God piggy-backing Gentiles on Abraham's covenant because there is no mention of Gentiles in the text, and it clearly says Abraham's seed.
If God made covenant with non-Hebrew Gentiles, then there would be a description of the covenant and there would be a man who is named with whom is receiver of such covenant but there is none.

In Scripture the Hebrews lived in Goshen. In Scripture it says that God delivered Hebrews from bondage and still I find no mention of Gentiles being freed. The whole reason why the Hebrews was to be enslaved and controlled was because they began to become the majority in contrast to the Egyptians and this is why they were enslaved and controlled. Non-Hebrew Gentiles - if there were any living among the Hebrews in Goshen - were not a threat to Egypt. But then again Gentiles were not enslaved. It was a Hebrews only policy. And while in bondage God commanded the Hebrews participate in the Passover event and ritual. God commanded the Hebrews to apply the sacrificial blood on their doorframes and the Angel of Death would Passover those in that house. Gentiles did not participate in this for it was given strictly to the Hebrew people and they obeyed. The next day Moses led the Hebrews out of Egypt and into the desert where God made covenant with this people of millions and they built a Tabernacle according to God's instructions. It was God who situated the families of Jacob (or tribes) around the Tabernacle, three to a side. If there were non-Hebrew Gentiles among them they were situated far from the Hebrew encampment. The Pentateuch, or the five books of Moses describes everything one needed to know about the God of Abraham and His dealings with the Hebrew people. God gave the Hebrews His Law to live by. Under the Law of God there was a high priest who did two things: he prayed for the people of God in covenant and offered sacrifices for the people of God in covenant. Scripture says that on Yom Kippur there was a temporary yearly atonement performed that absolved the children of Israel of their sins. Nowhere are Gentiles sprinkled with the blood, only the Hebrews. Nowhere do I read of the high priest leaving the land, travel to the Gentiles and offer sacrifices for their sins.

When Jesus arrived, He came with many titles, one of which is High Priest (Hebrews 3:1.) Under the Law the high priest interceded for the Hebrew people, even going as far as to enter the Holy of Holies of the Tabernacle. Jesus interceded for the Hebrew people by praying for them in John 17 and then offered Himself as sacrifice in John 19.
Jesus said He did not come to destroy the Law but to fulfill it. How does changing the Law lead to its destruction?
Let's take the Ten Commandments which was written on stone by the finger of God Himself. Then He gave the tablets to Moses to later be placed in the Ark of the Covenant. God's Word is written on stone. God is not going to change it. It is eternal as written. But if a man were to attempt to add, or subtract, what was written in the Law to change it he'd have to use a chisel. The person who would try to change the Law using a chisel runs the risk of chipping off a piece of stone he was not intending or even cracking or breaking the stone tablet thus destroying it. It is ruined. No glue, no tape, it is ruined. This is what Jesus meant when He said I did not come to destroy the Law (by trying to chisel-change it), but to fulfill it. It's simple. If the high priest did not pray for non-Hebrew Gentiles nor offer sacrifices for non-Hebrew Gentiles, then when Jesus arrived with the intent to fulfill the Law, then as High Priest neither did He pray for the world of non-Hebrew Gentiles nor offer Himself as sacrifice for their sins, especially when at the last Passover Jesus sitting with twelve Jewish men who represented the twelve tribes of Israel says His body and blood are "given for you", for the Hebrews. At this point, those who claim non-Hebrew Gentiles were atoned at the cross of Jesus Christ are teaching Jesus changed the Law thus destroying it, and this is sin. When we get to the New Covenant prophecy by Jeremiah, He states with whom God is making this New Covenant with and they are identified in his prophecy as the House of Israel (ten northern kingdom tribes), and the House of Judah (two southern kingdom tribes. In John 17:9 Jesus is explicit, He said, "I pray not for the world" and the world is the non-Hebrew Gentiles. If non-Hebrew Gentiles were to be among the atoned, then the time to pray and offer sacrifice for them is right here and now (John 17.)
But Jesus did not do that.

If God wanted to atone non-Hebrew Gentiles and make a covenant with them God would choose out a Gentile man and speak terms to him and we would know this Gentile's name. In fact, as time goes forward there would be a Gentile Bible written of God's dealing with this people, there will be prophets and other important and significant men and women God would carry through the decades and centuries. God would give them His Law and there would be sacrifices ordered as part of worship and fellowship, but there is nothing in Scripture about this. If the high priest entered the Tabernacle and if one Gentile man is atoned, then Jesus would have to fulfill that and name Gentiles as part of those who were to be atoned along with the Hebrews. Now, we get into something called Universalism. WHY would God separate the Hebrews from the rest of the Adamites and give the Hebrews circumcision to set them apart from the rest of the Adamites?

No, I take Scripture as written. I don't add or subtract what is written there. I am very familiar as to God's behavior and the way He does things. If God ever made a covenant with non-Hebrew Gentiles, it will be described in Scripture, not left to obscure misunderstandings of interpretation of words like "nations" and "families of the earth." If God made covenant with non-Hebrew Gentiles, it will be written boldly in Scripture so there be no misunderstanding it or Him. We would know the name of this Gentile the same way God identified many times "Abraham" is the person He was speaking to. If God made a covenant with non-Hebrew Gentiles, such a covenant would have a Bible with Gentile writers called by God and given the ministry of recording God's dealings with these Gentiles through the centuries until we get to the cross. After the cross there would be Gentiles writing a couple of gospels for the Gentile people to read and understand and give God the glory He's due for their salvation. If God was to make a covenant with Gentiles they would be included from the start, they would be given their own lot around the Tabernacle, the high priest would sprinkle them with the blood of the animal sacrifice, they would be included in the New Covenant and Jeremaih would write GENTILES in his prophecy and Jesus would have prayed for the world and there would be no John 17:9.

Being that we have only one Bible and it is a Hebrew Bible and among all the families of the earth God would choose one to exalt this one family ABOVE all the families of the earth, and save this one family to the exclusion of non-Hebrew Gentiles, the only way God could save non-Hebrew Gentiles would be to scatter the Hebrews throughout Gentile lands and through marriage, rape, concubinage, and slavery, the Gentile to be included in any and all three of these Hebrew covenants is to be born of at least ONE Hebrew parent. The children would be mixed Hebrew with Gentile but because God does not lie, that child born to a mixed marriage or otherwise, would have Abraham's blood and DNA in their veins and in this they would be heirs according to the promise (Gal. 3:28-29.)

Jesus came to save the people He's made covenant with and that family is Abraham's family. But that child cannot be born from the seed of Ishmael or Esau, and all the others who are not descendant of Jacob. If so, that child would be blessed but not in covenant because Jacob inherited the covenant and later his sons and their sons and their sons ad infinitum. I believe God did plan to include Gentiles because I see His scatter a covenant people among Gentiles knowing that His covenant people would mix it up with them and have mixed heritage children. He knew. He planned it that way.

I believe in the five solas. I also believe as today's Jews do and that is God made covenant with Abram the Hebrew and Abram's Hebrew seed and that only through Christ without any action on the part of the saved to salvation is purely the grace of God and He has extended it to one people. Abraham's people. And if there are any mixed heritage children born to a Jew-Gentile patents, then by virtue of God's promise to Abraham and Abraham's blood and DNA in that child, they are in covenant with God and heirs according to the promise. The descendants of Ham and Japheth are arsed out. Unless, of course, they get with a Hebrew.

23 Thus saith the LORD of hosts;
In those days it shall come to pass, that ten men shall take hold out of all languages of the nations,
Even shall take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew, saying,
We will go with you: for we have heard that God is with you.
Zechariah 8:23.

That's the only way non-Hebrew Gentiles are saved. And if God did make a covenant with non-Hebrew Gentiles we would know his name and verse 23 above would be written differently.

Salvation is OF THE LORD.
Salvation is OF THE JEWS.
But nowhere in Scripture does it say salvation is of the Gentiles.
Universalism is NOT taught in God's Word the Bible.

 

[Red Baker]

I don't see God piggy-backing Gentiles on Abraham's covenant because there is no mention of Gentiles in the text, and it clearly says Abraham's seed.

Some of what you said is of course very true, nevertheless, much is not true biblically, and can not therefore be supported by the scriptures. Jeremiah, we will let Jewish apostles explain to us how we must interpret OT prophecies, in light of the coming of Jesus Christ, the promised seed of Abraham, who would secured those promises made to Abraham and all of the elect seed of Christ.

Galatians 3:16​

“Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.”

Galatians 3:28​

“There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.”

Jeremiah, the promised of Genesis 12:1-3 was to Abraham and to his seed, not seeds as many, but to seed, as of ONE, and Paul said that was referring to CHRIST. which is so important to understand.

Now, onward to the gospels which reveals to us Christ's teachings concerning the love of God, and to whom that love was for. Was it only for the natural seed of Abraham, as though those promises in the OT, were not meant to be for any outside of the nation of Israel? Absolutely not.

John 3:16​

“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”

As we both know, Jesus was speaking to Nicodemus, a leader of the Jews, and revealing to him that God's love was not confined/limited to the Jews only as it was as a whole during the OT period, from Abraham onward. But God's love was for the world, meaning Jews and Gentiles, the world here is not all without exception, but all without distinction, Jews and Gentiles. For God does indeed make exceptions among both Jews and Gentiles. Paul taught the same truth.

Romans 3:29​

“Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also:”

Romans 9:24​

“Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?”

Jeremiah, you are so wrong on this thinking that the New Covenant is not for the Gentiles, and that there is a distinction between Jews and Gentiles, even still under the NT.

I have already in the past, showed you the promised land that Abraham understood it not to mean the land in the middle east, but the world to come! Romans 4:13; Hebrews 2:5; etc.

He also understood the innumerable family to be from all nations of the earth.

So Israel is a spiritual nation of elect Jews and Gentiles~ Acts 15:14-18....“Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name. And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is written, After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up: That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things. Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world.”

Ist Peter 2:9-10
“But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light: Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.”

Enough for now.

​

 

[FreeInChrist]

Interesting you recorded yourself and put your tongue in a computer.
Overall, I'd say you are brethren.
Let's fight!

 

[David Koberstein]

Some of what you said is of course very true, nevertheless, much is not true biblically, and can not therefore be supported by the scriptures. Jeremiah, we will let Jewish apostles explain to us how we must interpret OT prophecies, in light of the coming of Jesus Christ, the promised seed of Abraham, who would secured those promises made to Abraham and all of the elect seed of Christ.

Galatians 3:16​

“Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.”

Galatians 3:28​

“There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.”

Jeremiah, the promised of Genesis 12:1-3 was to Abraham and to his seed, not seeds as many, but to seed, as of ONE, and Paul said that was referring to CHRIST. which is so important to understand.

Now, onward to the gospels which reveals to us Christ's teachings concerning the love of God, and to whom that love was for. Was it only for the natural seed of Abraham, as though those promises in the OT, were not meant to be for any outside of the nation of Israel? Absolutely not.

John 3:16​

“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”

As we both know, Jesus was speaking to Nicodemus, a leader of the Jews, and revealing to him that God's love was not confined/limited to the Jews only as it was as a whole during the OT period, from Abraham onward. But God's love was for the world, meaning Jews and Gentiles, the world here is not all without exception, but all without distinction, Jews and Gentiles. For God does indeed make exceptions among both Jews and Gentiles. Paul taught the same truth.

Romans 3:29​

“Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also:”

Romans 9:24​

“Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?”

Jeremiah, you are so wrong on this thinking that the New Covenant is not for the Gentiles, and that there is a distinction between Jews and Gentiles, even still under the NT.

I have already in the past, showed you the promised land that Abraham understood it not to mean the land in the middle east, but the world to come! Romans 4:13; Hebrews 2:5; etc.

He also understood the innumerable family to be from all nations of the earth.

So Israel is a spiritual nation of elect Jews and Gentiles~ Acts 15:14-18....“Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name. And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is written, After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up: That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things. Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world.”

Ist Peter 2:9-10
“But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light: Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.”

Enough for now.

​

When you read Scripture. You have to ask yourself 2 things. Who is saying it? And to whom is it being said.
Shalom Aleichem

 

[jeremiah1five]

@jeremiah1five

So, your hope of eternal life is that you have Jewish blood in your veins. Jeremiah if that's what you are trusting in then your faith is worthless, and not according to the scriptures. This should concern you, but obviously it does not. Let's say, you do not, then what?

1st John 5:1​

“Whosoever (Jew or Gentile) believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.”

John 1:13​

“Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.”

Jeremiah, both of these scriptures and hundreds more, said that you are in serious error.

Nope. My hope is in Jesus Christ and Him crucified. The "whosoever" is understood to mean any Hebrew/Jew because the context of God's Word is given to them, not to Gentiles. It is "whosoever of Jews that believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God." John was a Judaizer. He knows the covenants were made first with Abram the Hebrew and his Hebrew seed, Isaac. When Isaac died without receiving the fulfillment of the promises, Jacob inherited those promises as spoken by God to Abram that it is also his seed who are the inheritors. Each son who was an inheritor and who did not receive the fulfillment of the promises inherited those promises and this continued to each succeeding generation.

The Word of God was given to and for the children of Israel. God spoke nothing to Gentiles. They were not under the Law of God. The Law of God was given to the children of Israel (Jacob.) John's word "not of blood" does not disqualify the Law of Moses. If so, then no one can or will be saved.

24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
Galatians 3:23–24.

God has tied all future conversions to the Law of God. Without the Law no one will be "brought to Christ" for the prophecy of the One like unto Moses is a prophecy given to the Hebrew people whom God delivered from their bondage and who declared that such a One will be born from "among thy brethren: (meaning He would be Hebrew.)
And those who He will save are His people the Hebrews (Matthew 1:21.) Gentiles are not "His people." God looks at the nations (non-Hebrews not of the seed of Abraham) as nothing and vanity.

17 All nations before him are as nothing;
And they are counted to him less than nothing, and vanity.
Isaiah 40:17.

This is a statement addressing those born of Ham and Japheth. The nations born of Abraham are blessed of God with no covenant, and those nations born of God in covenant and blessings (Isaac, Jacob, the twelve tribes, etc.)

Abraham is the father of many nations of people, not just Jews.

I agree. He is father to the descendants of Ishamel and Esau. They are the "families of the earth" that receive blessings, but through Isaac and Jacob receive covenant AND blessings. The context is Abraham and what God spoke to him. In declaring that he would be father of many nations God was identifying his seed which are the "families of the earth" who is blessed with Abraham, but the promise goes through Isaac, not Ishmael, although Ishmael receives blessings by virtue of being of Abraham's seed. They are blessed but have no covenant. Isaac is blessed and possesses covenant.

A few years back when I had my own business, (irrigation and landscaping) I was doing a job for a gentleman named Dr. Schwartz a foot doctor. As I was working installing the irrigation system, I said to one of my foreman's ......."I wish I had not let Dr. Schwartz jew me down'...., without even thinking. His wife was somewhere close enough to hear me, even though I did not see her, and she told her husband what I said. When I was there collecting and showing Mr. Schwartz how to use his system, he mentioned this to me and said he did not appreciate me saying that since his people had suffered so much at the hands of Adolf Hilter, etc. I apologize to him and reminded him that I would never offend the Jewish people, since Abraham was my spiritual father, making me more a son of Abraham than any natural Jew was. He was taken back with that and just left the subject alone.

As side note, my foreman whose name was John said to me: " I do not know why he got so upset, when I never get upset when someone said to me........... I got to use the john"! I think John had a good point.

If Abraham is your spiritual father, then Abraham would also be your natural father through natural birth. If you are truly born again, then you would have at least one Hebrew parent in your ancestry for the Spirit that would birth you was never promised to Gentiles (Joel) but was promised to Israel (seed of Jacob) only.

From Genesis to Malachi God's Word is Hebrew through and through. These Scriptures record God's dealing with one people - Hebrews who are inheritors of the promise. If Ishmael married into Egyptian seed, he is still blessed because he is Abraham's seed. But only blessed with no covenant for the covenant AND blessings goes through Isaac, the child of promise.

21 But my covenant will I establish with Isaac, which Sarah shall bear unto thee at this set time in the next year.
Genesis 17:21.

Promises made, promises kept.

Where have I heard that before?

 

[Red Baker]

@jeremiah1five

Nope. My hope is in Jesus Christ and Him crucified.

Have you done a DNA test? What if you did and the results were no Jewish blood in your family genealogy? Would that undermine your faith in Christ? I in all sincerity trust that it would not, but not so sure, since you have been brainwashed in believing that no Gentiles have any hope of eternal life only because they lack Jewish blood flowing in their veins. I did a DNA test, not because I wanted to know if I had Jewish blood, but just out of curiosity, no more. I have zero Jewish blood, mostly my forefathers on my father's side came from Germany ~ I'm 45% German; Mother's folks came from England. Besides, genealogy is an endless search, that leads to no where for the most part. Folks desire to find someone important in their bloodline when the truth is, we all are sinners and all of our history is recorded for us to see in Romans 3:10-18.....a very sad commentary indeed of every single person born of flesh and blood.

1st Timothy 1:4​

“Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.”

The "whosoever" is understood to mean any Hebrew/Jew because the context of God's Word is given to them, not to Gentiles. It is "whosoever of Jews that believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God." John was a Judaizer. He knows the covenants were made first with Abram the Hebrew and his Hebrew seed, Isaac. When Isaac died without receiving the fulfillment of the promises, Jacob inherited those promises as spoken by God to Abram that it is also his seed who are the inheritors. Each son who was an inheritor and who did not receive the fulfillment of the promises inherited those promises and this continued to each succeeding generation.

Jeremiah, you sir, are being dishonest with God's word, shame on you. Yes, John and Peter and the rest of the apostles were sent to the Jews, and Paul to the Gentiles. According to Galatians 2:9; so, when John wrote his epistles to the Jews, he was reminding them that the gospel and its spiritual blessings were not limited to the Jews ONLY but to whosoever, meaning be they Jews or Gentiles. if they believe that Jesus is the Christ, then they are born of God, for without the new birth it is impossible for a Jew or a Gentile to believe in their flesh, one must firs be born of God ~ according to the verse I quote to you from 1st John 5:1. So, when John wrote:

1st John 2:2​

“And he is the propitiation for our sins: (JEWS) and not for ours (JEWS) only, but also for the sins of the whole world.”

Meaning that Jesus' death was not for the Jews only, but it including God's elect from every nations under heaven ~ the whole world is not all without exception, but all "without distinction" which you are laboring to make for the Jews only.

Revelation 7:9​

“After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;”

Jeremiah have never read so much as these words:

Romans 10:19-21​

“But I say, Did not Israel know? First Moses saith, I will provoke you to jealousy by them that are no people, and by a foolish nation I will anger you. But Esaias is very bold, and saith, I was found of them that sought me not; I was made manifest unto them that asked not after me. But to Israel he saith, All day long I have stretched forth my hands unto a disobedient and gainsaying people."

You just close your eyes to such scriptures and they are literally hundreds of them. Shame on her, Jeremiah. God has been visiting the Gentiles nations for around two thousand years, and it is coming to an end very soon. The Lord is taking out of them a people for his name sake, while Abraham's natural children are still in darkness overall considered. The Gentiles nations have done just what the Jews did before Christ.... they have forsaken God, and turned unto the idols of this world, and judgement is soon coming down on them very soon as it did on the Jews and as for around two thousand years or so as a whole, not all.

If Abraham is your spiritual father, then Abraham would also be your natural father through natural birth. If you are truly born again, then you would have at least one Hebrew parent in your ancestry for the Spirit that would birth you was never promised to Gentiles (Joel) but was promised to Israel (seed of Jacob) only.

He is not my natural father, only spiritually through Christ, TO WHOM are the promises to and all who are IN Christ, be they Jews or Gentiles.

Enough for now.