GeneZ
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"We?" You mean? You, and 101G?
The Uncreated Word of God (Jesus) is God.
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DavidTree
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The GREAT NEWS is that the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Truth and HE is capable of teaching us Truth apart from man.
Matthew 11:25-30
At that time Jesus answered and said, “I thank You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and prudent and have revealed them to babes. Even so, Father, for so it seemed good in Your sight. All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him. Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am [f]gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.”
John 6:43-45
Jesus therefore answered and said to them, “Do not murmur among yourselves. No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day. It is written in the prophets, ‘And they shall all be taught by God.’
Therefore everyone who has heard and learned from the Father comes to Me.
Matthew 18:1-5
At that time the disciples came to Jesus, saying, “Who then is greatest in the kingdom of heaven?”
Then Jesus called a little child to Him, set him in the midst of them, and said, “Assuredly, I say to you, unless you are converted and become as little children, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven. Therefore whoever humbles himself as this little child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. Whoever receives one little child like this in My name receives Me.
Proverbs 30:5-6
Every word of God is pure;
He is a shield to those who put their trust in Him.
Do not add to His words,
Lest He rebuke you, and you be found a liar.
DavidTree
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SEE Post #22
GeneZ
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That is not how He works.
When it says you have no need for someone to teach you because you have the anointing? 1 John 2:27
That means after someone communicates God's message to you? You do not need a man to tell you what to think about that that man of God showed you.
If you honestly think about? Its terribly ironic that John had to tell them that they had no need for a man to teach them, while the man 'John' was needed to tell them that!
DavidTree
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i SEE you do not understand Jesus words as posted for you.
Here it is again - take another look.
Matthew 11:25-30
At that time Jesus answered and said, “I thank You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and prudent and have revealed them to babes. Even so, Father, for so it seemed good in Your sight. All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him. Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am [f]gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.”
John 6:43-45
Jesus therefore answered and said to them, “Do not murmur among yourselves. No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day. It is written in the prophets, ‘And they shall all be taught by God.’
Therefore everyone who has heard and learned from the Father comes to Me.
God speaks thru Holy men to men but it is God who reveals the Truth to our spirits.
This is why the Apostle John said: "But the anointing which you have received from Him abides in you, and you do not need that anyone teach you; but as the same anointing teaches you concerning all things, and is true, and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you will abide in Him"
"The ANOINTING" - learn all about HIM in Gospel of John and Acts
GeneZ
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I know what you said. I also understand what "anointing" means......
Those who failed to see what the Word teaches, and think that all you need is a Bible and to get alone with God, soon becomes a one man cult.
It also says He has given us pastor-teachers -TO TEACH us! Ephesians 4:11-12
DavidTree
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Everyone fails to see what the Word teaches unless they receive from God.
God is both willing and active in teaching us according to His Word.
"And when you pray, you shall not be like the hypocrites. For they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the corners of the streets, that they may be seen by men. Assuredly, I say to you, they have their reward.
But you, when you pray, go into your room, and when you have shut your door, pray to your Father who is in the secret place; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you openly.
And when you pray, do not use vain repetitions as the heathen do. For they think that they will be heard for their many words
Why argue against His words?
101G
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AND? I know this, as well as, Isaiah 29:10 "For the LORD hath poured out upon you the spirit of deep sleep, and hath closed your eyes: the prophets and your rulers, the seers hath he covered." Isaiah 29:11 "And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it is sealed:" Isaiah 29:12 "And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned."
101G.
GeneZ
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I am not arguing against his words.
What astounds me? Is if you truly believe we should have no need for any man to teach us?
Then why are you here trying to teach us?
You are contradicting what you claim you believe.
And, what you say we should believe.
When you try to teach us!
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101G
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no man can teach u/us. only he who is in the MAN teaches us. the man is only an "ANOINTED" vessel used by God to teach.
we have a unction in the Holy Spirit. 1 John 2:20 "But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things." For the Holy Ghost/Spirit will guide us in all things. HOW?
1 Corinthians 2:12 "Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God." 1 Corinthians 2:13 "Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual." 1 Corinthians 2:14 "But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned." 1 Corinthians 2:15 "But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man." 1 Corinthians 2:16 "For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ."
101G.
DavidTree
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#1 - i never said we are islands unto ourselves = you brought that up.
#2 - God knows everyone of His sons and He formed His Body by joining us together into One Body = the Body of Christ
#3 - Our Heavenly Father knows what we have need of - even before we ask Him.
Ephesians 4:11-16
And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers, for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the [e]edifying of the body of Christ, till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ; that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting, but, speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him who is the head—Christ— from whom the whole body, joined and knit together by what every joint supplies, according to the effective working by which every part does its share, causes growth of the body for the edifying of itself in love.
DavidTree
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Well the words of the LORD have been opened to myself along with many others who know Him and have the Holy Spirit as our Teacher and Guide.
DavidTree
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SEE Post #25
GeneZ
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I know that. You know that.
Apparently, those who think its "only me and my bible" do not know that.
DavidTree
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OK - GREAT
The scriptures i posted are about the people who desire Truth in the inward parts.
Psalm 51
Have mercy upon me, O God,
According to Your lovingkindness;
According to the multitude of Your tender mercies,
Blot out my transgressions.
2Wash me thoroughly from my iniquity,
And cleanse me from my sin.
3For I acknowledge my transgressions,
And my sin is always before me.
4Against You, You only, have I sinned,
And done this evil in Your sight—
That You may be found just [a]when You speak,
And blameless when You judge.
5Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity,
And in sin my mother conceived me.
6Behold, You desire truth in the inward parts,
And in the hidden part You will make me to know wisdom.
GeneZ
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I was just not sure where you were standing. Reason being? Seen too many in forums who believe all they need is the Holy Spirit and their Bible. Ending up with what they want to believe is from God, and its all that matters. The reason why? "They have the Holy Spirit. "
I was hoping to get you to make your stand clear as to where you stand.
Looks like its been a success.
grace and peace .............
DavidTree
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Thank you Brother and Peace and Blessing in Christ to you as well.I was just not sure where you were standing. Reason being? Seen too many in forums who believe all they need is the Holy Spirit and their Bible. Ending up with what they want to believe is from God, and its all that matters. The reason why? "They have the Holy Spirit. "
I was hoping to get you to make your stand clear as to where you stand.
Looks like its been a success.
grace and peace .............
Yeah, i believe we all need each other in the Body of Christ = Christ in you the Hope of Glory
I now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up in my flesh what is lacking in the afflictions of Christ, for the sake of His body, which is the church, of which I became a minister according to the stewardship from God which was given to me for you, to fulfill the word of God, the mystery which has been hidden from ages and from generations, but now has been revealed to His saints. To them God willed to make known what are the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles: which is Christ in you, the hope of glory.
Him we preach, warning every man and teaching every man in all wisdom, that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus.
To this end I also labor, striving according to His working which works in me mightily.
GeneZ
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Wisdom can happen only after we have been taught accurately and faithfully, and brings spiritual maturity into our life.
We must first learn many (sound) doctrines before wisdom can be constructed.
With all the sound teachings we possess? Then, the Spirit will be able to construct a spiritual way of thinking that will "overcome" some evil, or problem, which was presenting itself as to stop us from being free.
That is why Jesus said ......... "The truth will make you free!"
The teaching must be sound and accurate. Gold, silver, and precious stones.
Not, wood, hay, and stubble that the Lord will burn up.
grace and peace ..............
101G
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Correct, now may 101G ask, is not the Holy Spirit the Lord Jesus? is not the Lord Jesus the TRUTH?
101G.
