The Tri-Unity of God in the believer

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The Trinity in Acton on behalf of the saints

Romans 8
26 In the same way the Spirit also helps our weakness; for we do not know how to pray as we should, but the Spirit Himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words;27 and He who searches the hearts knows what the mind of the Spirit is, because He intercedes for the saintsaccording to the will of God.

Hebrews 7
The former priests, on the one hand, existed in greater numbers because they were prevented by death from continuing,24 but Jesus, on the other hand, because He continues forever, holds His priesthood permanently.25Therefore He is able also to save forever those who draw near to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them.

1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men,the man Christ Jesus,

1 John 2:1
My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous;

And when God intercedes on our behalf rest assured it will come to pass !

Luke 22:32
but I have prayed for you, that your faith may not fail

Ephesians 1:3-14
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Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in the heavenly realms with every spiritual blessing in Christ. 4 For he chose us in him before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight. In love 5 he predestined us for adoption to sonship through Jesus Christ, in accordance with his pleasure and will— 6 to the praise of his glorious grace, which he has freely given us in the One he loves. 7 In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, in accordance with the riches of God’s grace 8 that he lavished on us. With all wisdom and understanding, 9 he made known to us the mystery of his will according to his good pleasure, which he purposed in Christ, 10 to be put into effect when the times reach their fulfillment—to bring unity to all things in heaven and on earth under Christ.11 In him we were also chosen, having been predestined according to the plan of him who works out everything in conformity with the purpose of his will, 12 in order that we, who were the first to put our hope in Christ, might be for the praise of his glory. 13 And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, 14 who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession—to the praise of his glory.


1-Paul gives praise, glory and honor to the Father in 1:3-6
2-Paul gives praise, glory and honor to the Son in 1:7-12
3-Paul gives praise, glory and honor to the Holy Spirit in 1:13-14

1-Salvation is Assigned by the Father
2-Salvation is Achieved through the Son
3-Salvation is Active from the Holy Spirit

Hence once again we see the Trinity in Action in the life of the believer!

Salvation is administered and assigned by the Father, accomplished and achieved through the Son and applied and activated by the Holy Spirit. We see the Trinity in action in the Redemption of the believer.

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Jesus and The Apostles in their teachings reveal the Father, Son and Holy Spirit working together in the believers life. They are distinct Persons within the One God.

John 15:26-27
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"When the Helper comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, that is the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify about Me, 27and you will testify also, because you have been with Me from the beginning.


John 16:5-8
"But now I am going to Him who sent Me; and none of you asks Me, Where are You going?' 6"But because I have said these things to you, sorrow has filled your heart. 7"But I tell you the truth, it is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I go,I will send Him to you. 8"And He, when He comes, will convictthe world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment;


John 16:13-15
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"But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come. 14"He will glorify Me, for He will take of Mine and will disclose it to you. 15"All things that the Fatherhas are Mine; therefore I said that He takes of Mine and will disclose it to you.

Matthew 3:16-17
16 And when Jesus was baptized, immediately he went up from the water, and behold, the heavens were opened to him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and coming to rest on him; 17 and behold, a voice from heaven said, "This is mybeloved Son, with whom I am well pleased."

Below we see the One Name singular and the Plurality of Persons that one is to be baptized in as a disciple .

Matt 28:19-20
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"Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Fatherand the Son and the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age. "
Now below Paul will lay out our triune God below in these passages.


Rom 8:9-11
9 However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him. 10 If Christ is in you, though the body is dead because of sin, yet the spirit is alive because of righteousness. 11 But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you.

Rom 8:14-17
14 For all who are being led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God. 15 For you have not received a spirit of slavery leading to fear again, but you have received a spirit of adoption as sons by which we cry out, "Abba! Father!" 16 The Spirit Himself testifies with our spirit that we are children of God, 17 and if children, heirs also, heirs of God and fellowheirs with Christ, if indeed we suffer with Him so that we may also be glorified with Him.

Rom 8:26-36
26 In the same way the Spirit also helps our weakness; for we do not know how to pray as we should, but the Spirit Himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words; 27 and He who searches the hearts knows what the mind of the Spirit is, because He intercedes for the saints according to the will of God.

28 And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose. 29 For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren; 30 and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified.

31 What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who is against us? 32 He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him over for us all, how will He not also with Him freely give us all things? 33 Who will bring a charge against God's elect? God is the one who justifies; 34 who is the one who condemns? Christ Jesus is He who died, yes, rather who was raised, who is at the right hand of God, who also intercedes for us. 35 Who will separate us from the love of Christ? Will tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?

Rom 14:17-18
17 for the kingdom of God is not eating and drinking, but righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit. 18 For he who in this way serves Christ is acceptable to God and approved by men.

1 Cor 2:10-16
10 For to us God revealed them through the Spirit; for the Spirit searches all things, even the depths of God. 11 For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so the thoughts of God no one knows except the Spirit of God. 12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may know the things freely given to us by God, 13 which things we also speak, not in words taught by human wisdom, but in those taught by the Spirit, combining spiritual thoughts with spiritual words.

14 But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised. 15 But he who is spiritual appraises all things, yet he himself is appraised by no one. 16 For WHO HAS KNOWN THE MIND OF THE LORD, THAT HE WILL INSTRUCT HIM? But we have the mind of Christ.

1 Cor 12:3-6
3 Therefore I make known to you that no one speaking by the Spirit of God says, "Jesus is accursed"; and no one can say, "Jesus is Lord," except by the Holy Spirit.

4 Now there are varieties of gifts, but the same Spirit. 5 And there are varieties of ministries, and the same Lord. 6 There are varieties of effects, but the same God who works all things in all persons.

Titus 3:4-7
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But when the kindness of God our Savior and His love for mankind appeared, 5 He saved us, not on the basis of deeds which we have done in righteousness, but according to His mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit, 6 whom He poured out upon us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior, 7 that being justified by His grace we might be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.

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Romans 8
26 In the same way the Spirit also helps our weakness; for we do not know how to pray as we should, but the Spirit Himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words
is this not the Lord Jesus? is not the Lord Jesus our ... "intercessor?" the Holy Spirit. 1 John 2:1 "My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:"

advocate: G3875 παράκλητος parakletos (pa-ra'-klee-tos) n.
1. (properly) one called near (to give help).
2. an intercessor (one who entreats of behalf of another).
3. a comforter.
[(not given)]
KJV: advocate, comforter
Root(s): G3844, G2822

again the OT, Zechariah 12:10 "And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn."

the ONE "pierced" will pour out his Spirit of supplications which was poured out on the day of Pentecost.... the Holy Ghost.

this is just too easy not to be understood.

101G.
 
Most of us who profess and call ourselves Christians are in the habit of saying that Jesus Christ is God. This is the current opinion; it is taught by the Church; it is laid down in the Creeds. But if you come to examine the average person, you will find that they hold this opinion in rather a vague and loose sort of way.

They have not thought out exactly what we mean by Jesus is God, or considered just what it involves. If you asked them whether God is our Heavenly Father, they would almost certainly answer ‘Yes.’ If you then asked, ‘Well, then, is Jesus Christ our Heavenly Father?’ they would certainly say ‘No.’

But if you went on, ‘Are there, then, two Gods?’ they would entirely repudiate the suggestion. So that they carries about with them in their mind these four propositions:

1. ‘Jesus Christ is God’;
2. ‘God is our Heavenly Father’;
3. ‘Jesus Christ is not our Heavenly Father’;
4. ‘There are not two Gods.’

Yet they have never considered how to reconcile these four separate opinions together; it probably has not occurred to them that they are consistent with one another. Some teachers have various methods of harmonizing the four opinions, all four of which have been taught to them by them by methods satisfactory or unsatisfactory.

I prefer the "Doctrine of the Incarnation" that God was in Jesus Christ, so that Jesus Christ, though remaining Man, was also God. This does not seem to some to smooth away the difficulty; and they are still incline to think that the four propositions are mutually incompatible.

I have never had a problem with believing in the Trinity. Understand it, yes. That is where study comes in.
 
1. ‘Jesus Christ is God’;
2. ‘God is our Heavenly Father’;
3. ‘Jesus Christ is not our Heavenly Father’;
4. ‘There are not two Gods.’

Yet they have never considered how to reconcile these four separate opinions together; it probably has not occurred to them that they are consistent with one another. Some teachers have various methods of harmonizing the four opinions, all four of which have been taught to them by them by methods satisfactory or unsatisfactory.

I prefer the "Doctrine of the Incarnation" that God was in Jesus Christ, so that Jesus Christ, though remaining Man, was also God. This does not seem to some to smooth away the difficulty; and they are still incline to think that the four propositions are mutually incompatible.

I have never had a problem with believing in the Trinity. Understand it, yes. That is where study comes in.
Greeting.
1. ‘Jesus Christ is God’;. christ is a title of God. and we will answer this in #2. wirh scripture.

2. ‘God is our Heavenly Father’; is this not the Lord Jesus? Let's see, 2 Corinthians 6:15 "And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?" 2 Corinthians 6:16 "And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people." 2 Corinthians 6:17 "Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you," 2 Corinthians 6:18 "And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty."

the context is the Lord Jesus the Christ speaking, and he said that he will be a "Father" to us .... who separate ourselves from the unclean things. yes, the Lord Jesus is Father..... and do we not just ONE FATHER? let's check the record. Malachi 2:10 "Have we not all one father? hath not one God created us? why do we deal treacherously every man against his brother, by profaning the covenant of our fathers?"

now, if one say that they have another Father beside the Lord Jesus then they have two Fathers. and notice, in 2 Corinthians 6:18 "Father" is capitalized, indicating the "Father" of Spirits.

that should includes #3 & 4

101G.
 
Greeting.
1. ‘Jesus Christ is God’;. christ is a title of God. and we will answer this in #2. wirh scripture.

2. ‘God is our Heavenly Father’; is this not the Lord Jesus? Let's see, 2 Corinthians 6:15 "And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?" 2 Corinthians 6:16 "And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people." 2 Corinthians 6:17 "Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you," 2 Corinthians 6:18 "And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty."

the context is the Lord Jesus the Christ speaking, and he said that he will be a "Father" to us .... who separate ourselves from the unclean things. yes, the Lord Jesus is Father..... and do we not just ONE FATHER? let's check the record. Malachi 2:10 "Have we not all one father? hath not one God created us? why do we deal treacherously every man against his brother, by profaning the covenant of our fathers?"

now, if one say that they have another Father beside the Lord Jesus then they have two Fathers. and notice, in 2 Corinthians 6:18 "Father" is capitalized, indicating the "Father" of Spirits.

that should includes #3 & 4

101G.
Paul is speaking

next fallacy
 
Paul is speaking

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as ambassador for the Lord, LISTEN and LEARN, 2 Corinthians 6:18 "And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty."
this is why so many Christians are still in darkness, they don't know who is speaking. NEXT.

101G
 
@civic,
you did not know that Paul was an ambassador for the Lord Jesus? an ambassador do NOT SPEAK HIS, or THEIR own mind. my ...
if Paul spoke something that was not of the Lord 's agenda, he would say something like this, 1 Corinthians 7:6 "But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment."

Next,

101G
 
as ambassador for the Lord, LISTEN and LEARN, 2 Corinthians 6:18 "And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty."
this is why so many Christians are still in darkness, they don't know who is speaking. NEXT.

101G
Nope it’s not the Son speaking. This promise echoes 2 Samuel 7:14, where God speaks to David about his offspring.
 
@civic,
you did not know that Paul was an ambassador for the Lord Jesus? an ambassador do NOT SPEAK HIS, or THEIR own mind. my ...
if Paul spoke something that was not of the Lord 's agenda, he would say something like this, 1 Corinthians 7:6 "But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment."

Next,

101G
Just randomly quoting scripture out of context as expected
 
Nope it’s not the Son speaking. This promise echoes 2 Samuel 7:14, where God speaks to David about his offspring.
LOL, LOL, LOL, so, the Lord Jesus is not the ALMIGHTY? let's check to record. Revelation 1:8 "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty." Civic, is this the Lord Jesus the Almighty? yes or no.

now, brother civic, do you believe the Lord Jesus when he said, 2 Corinthians 6:18 "And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty."

101G just need a YES or NO.

101G.
 
@civic, now, brother, do you believe the Lord Jesus when he said, 2 Corinthians 6:18 "And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty."

101G just need a YES or NO. no math involved nor any commentary needed. ..... JUST a YES or NO.

101G.
 
@Theophilus,

Do you believe the Lord Jesus when he said, 2 Corinthians 6:18 "And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty."

101G.
 
Yes I do.

18 And I will be a Father to you, and you shall be My sons and daughters, says the Lord Almighty. [Isa. 43:6; Hos. 1:10.]
2 Co 6:18.

2 Corinthians 6:18 means that God promises a loving, parental relationship with believers who separate themselves from sin and idolatry. He promises to be a Father to them, and they will become His sons and daughters, a relationship that offers God's protection, guidance, and provision. The verse is often seen as the culmination of a warning in the preceding verses to avoid "unequal yokes" and to be distinct from the world.
 
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Yes I do.

18 And I will be a Father to you, and you shall be My sons and daughters, says the Lord Almighty. [Isa. 43:6; Hos. 1:10.]
2 Co 6:18.
So, the Lord Jesus is the ONLY FATHER, correct? yes or no

101G.
 
@civic , since you will take a while, Malachi 2:10 "Have we not all one father? hath not one God created us? why do we deal treacherously every man against his brother, by profaning the covenant of our fathers?"

now if you have a "Father" other than the Lord Jesus.... you have two Fathers.

101G.
 
To all,
the topic states, "The Tri-Unity of God in the believer". well then, there are only a handful of believers. for the ONLY ONE IN US, (The TRUE BELIEVER), IS THE Lord JESUS, who is the Holy Spirit, the comforter.

John 14:16 "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;" John 14:17 "Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you." John 14:18 "I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you."

when did the Lord Jesus come, or better yet, RETURNED? on the day of Pentecost. in Spirit. Oh this is just 2 easy ... not to KNOW and UNDERSTAND.

101G.
 
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