The Plan of Redemption: God, Abraham, and His Seed.

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After God delivered the children of Israel from their bondage in Egypt, He led them through the desert, gave them His Law at Mount Sinai, guided them in building a Tabernacle which was patterned after what God called a 'heavenly' Tabernacle. And why not? There was a sacrifice made in heaven and most likely in eternity before He created physical heaven, earth, and man. With this sacrifice a people with name identification would benefit from this sacrifice that resulted in life (and living.)
[Let's see how long this becomes to bring out the biblical truth of God on redemption]

8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from [before] the foundation (creation) of the world. Rev. 13:8.

This sacrifice brought about several results. Here are several of them which God's sacrifice effected.

The first was a Plan was foreordained by which a goal or goals were to be established and accomplished.

34 All these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in parables; and without a parable spake he not unto them:
35 That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world. Mt 13:34–35.

The second was the foreordination of a Redeemer:

18 Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;
19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:
20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you, 1 Peter 1:18–20.

Next, a people were foreordained:

4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: Eph. 1:3–4.

Then, a 'book' was brought into existence which contained all the people identified by names which will be recipient of this Planned Redemption, as well as a people unidentified and not named that are not included in this 'book' of life of the lamb which was slain in eternity and to be slain in time:

8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is. Rev. 17:8.

After, a Redeemer was foreordained and a people to be given to Him, a kingdom was also foreordained:

34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: Mt 25:34.

The Plan included the Redeemer was to suffer often and then suffer once finally as part of the Plan of Redemption:

26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself. Heb 9:25–26.

As the Redeemer would suffer so, too, would the people given to Him of God would suffer also:

50 That the blood of all the prophets, which was shed from the foundation of the world, may be required of this generation; Lk 11:50.

Part of this Plan included a respite or rest for the people from suffering, and these things were also declared as 'works' that are included:

3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world. Heb 4:2–3.

And finally, the reason and motivation for this who Plan of the Redemption of man was on the basis of love. Love between Father and Son, and love between Son and redeemed people.

24 Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world. Jn 17:23–24.

With all these events and people foreordained and the love from which it was developed I come to the relationship between the Redeemer and the Redeemed as per the Plan of God, a plan from [before] the foundation (creation) of the world.
God is the Redeemer and the foreordained people which will be redeemed are that people with which God has a covenant to redeem and that people without a doubt are a people born from Abraham and later his descendants who are called the children of Israel.
The whole of the bible records this covenant relationship between God and Abraham's seed as well as their history, culture, religion, individuals, and events, from Genesis to Revelation.
If God is the Redeemer, and the seed of Abraham are the redeemed, then this chosen and elect people would have to be deemed by God in the first place. They were deemed in the Mind of God before God created heaven, earth, and man. And here they are identified in the last 'book' of the bible:

8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. Rev. 13:8.

Although these words are written in the negative of those whose names are NOT written in the book of life of the lamb slain from before the foundation of the world, it speaks volumes of a book that has names of a people God came to redeem - Abraham and his seed.
A people known as the children and House of Israel.
The Plan of Redemption in a nutshell.
Salvation is of the LORD.
Salvation is of the Jews.

 

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Salvation is promised to a seed !

Heb 2:16-17

16 For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.

17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.

Rom 4:16-17,11

16 Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,

17 (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.

The seed is everyone who believes, regardless of race

And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had yet being uncircumcised: that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be not circumcised; that righteousness might be imputed unto them also:

in this context "that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be not circumcised; that righteousness might be imputed unto them also:" this refers to Gentiles, Non Jews

Remember the question was asked in Vs 9

9 Cometh this blessedness then upon the circumcision only[jews], or upon the uncircumcision[Gentiles] also? for we say that faith was reckoned to Abraham for righteousness.

What blessedness ? Look @ vs 5-8

5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,

7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.

8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.

 

[TomL]

Salvation is promised to a seed !

Heb 2:16-17

16 For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.

17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.

Christ in Heb 2

Hebrews 2:5–18 (LEB) — 5 For he did not subject to angels the world to come, about which we are speaking. 6 But someone testified somewhere, saying, “What is man, that you remember him, or the son of man, that you care for him? 7 You made him for a short time lower than the angels; you crowned him with glory and honor; 8 you subjected all things under his feet. For in subjecting all things, he left nothing that was not subject to him. But now we do not yet see all things subjected to him, 9 but we see Jesus, for a short time made lower than the angels, because of the suffering of death crowned with glory and honor, so that apart from God he might taste death on behalf of everyone. 10 For it was fitting for him for whom are all things and through whom are all things in bringing many sons to glory to perfect the originator of their salvation through sufferings. 11 For both the one who sanctifies and the ones who are sanctified are all from one, for which reason he is not ashamed to call them brothers, 12 saying, “I will proclaim your name to my brothers; in the midst of the assembly I will sing in praise of you.” 13 And again, “I will trust in him.” And again, “Behold, I and the children God has given me.” 14 Therefore, since the children share in blood and flesh, he also in like manner shared in these same things, in order that through death he could destroy the one who has the power of death, that is, the devil, 15 and could set free these who through fear of death were subject to slavery throughout all their lives. 16 For surely he is not concerned with angels, but he is concerned with the descendants of Abraham. 17 Therefore he was obligated to be made like his brothers in all respects, in order that he could become a merciful and faithful high priest in the things relating to God, in order to make atonement for the sins of the people. 18 For in that which he himself suffered when he was tempted, he is able to help those who are tempted.

 

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Christ in Heb 2

Hebrews 2:5–18 (LEB) — 5 For he did not subject to angels the world to come, about which we are speaking. 6 But someone testified somewhere, saying, “What is man, that you remember him, or the son of man, that you care for him? 7 You made him for a short time lower than the angels; you crowned him with glory and honor; 8 you subjected all things under his feet. For in subjecting all things, he left nothing that was not subject to him. But now we do not yet see all things subjected to him, 9 but we see Jesus, for a short time made lower than the angels, because of the suffering of death crowned with glory and honor, so that apart from God he might taste death on behalf of everyone. 10 For it was fitting for him for whom are all things and through whom are all things in bringing many sons to glory to perfect the originator of their salvation through sufferings. 11 For both the one who sanctifies and the ones who are sanctified are all from one, for which reason he is not ashamed to call them brothers, 12 saying, “I will proclaim your name to my brothers; in the midst of the assembly I will sing in praise of you.” 13 And again, “I will trust in him.” And again, “Behold, I and the children God has given me.” 14 Therefore, since the children share in blood and flesh, he also in like manner shared in these same things, in order that through death he could destroy the one who has the power of death, that is, the devil, 15 and could set free these who through fear of death were subject to slavery throughout all their lives. 16 For surely he is not concerned with angels, but he is concerned with the descendants of Abraham. 17 Therefore he was obligated to be made like his brothers in all respects, in order that he could become a merciful and faithful high priest in the things relating to God, in order to make atonement for the sins of the people. 18 For in that which he himself suffered when he was tempted, he is able to help those who are tempted.

Redemption is only for a seed, the seed of Abraham or Israel Lk 1:68

Blessed be the Lord God of Israel; for he hath visited and redeemed his people,

Lk 1:67-73

67 And his father Zacharias was filled with the Holy Ghost, and prophesied, saying,

68 Blessed be the Lord God of Israel; for he hath visited and redeemed his people,

69 And hath raised up an horn of salvation for us in the house of his servant David;

70 As he spake by the mouth of his holy prophets, which have been since the world began:

71 That we should be saved from our enemies, and from the hand of all that hate us;

72 ;To perform the mercy promised to our fathers, and to remember his holy covenant;

73 The oath which he sware to our father Abraham,

Notice this was inspired by the Holy Spirit Vs 67

 

[TomL]

Redemption is only for a seed, the seed of Abraham or Israel Lk 1:68

Blessed be the Lord God of Israel; for he hath visited and redeemed his people,

Lk 1:67-73

67 And his father Zacharias was filled with the Holy Ghost, and prophesied, saying,

68 Blessed be the Lord God of Israel; for he hath visited and redeemed his people,

69 And hath raised up an horn of salvation for us in the house of his servant David;

70 As he spake by the mouth of his holy prophets, which have been since the world began:

71 That we should be saved from our enemies, and from the hand of all that hate us;

72 ;To perform the mercy promised to our fathers, and to remember his holy covenant;

73 The oath which he sware to our father Abraham,

Notice this was inspired by the Holy Spirit Vs 67

Again

Christ in Heb 2

Hebrews 2:5–18 (LEB) — 5 For he did not subject to angels the world to come, about which we are speaking. 6 But someone testified somewhere, saying, “What is man, that you remember him, or the son of man, that you care for him? 7 You made him for a short time lower than the angels; you crowned him with glory and honor; 8 you subjected all things under his feet. For in subjecting all things, he left nothing that was not subject to him. But now we do not yet see all things subjected to him, 9 but we see Jesus, for a short time made lower than the angels, because of the suffering of death crowned with glory and honor, so that apart from God he might taste death on behalf of everyone. 10 For it was fitting for him for whom are all things and through whom are all things in bringing many sons to glory to perfect the originator of their salvation through sufferings. 11 For both the one who sanctifies and the ones who are sanctified are all from one, for which reason he is not ashamed to call them brothers, 12 saying, “I will proclaim your name to my brothers; in the midst of the assembly I will sing in praise of you.” 13 And again, “I will trust in him.” And again, “Behold, I and the children God has given me.” 14 Therefore, since the children share in blood and flesh, he also in like manner shared in these same things, in order that through death he could destroy the one who has the power of death, that is, the devil, 15 and could set free these who through fear of death were subject to slavery throughout all their lives. 16 For surely he is not concerned with angels, but he is concerned with the descendants of Abraham. 17 Therefore he was obligated to be made like his brothers in all respects, in order that he could become a merciful and faithful high priest in the things relating to God, in order to make atonement for the sins of the people. 18 For in that which he himself suffered when he was tempted, he is able to help those who are tempted.

and also

Galatians 3:16 (LEB) — 16 Now to Abraham and to his descendant the promises were spoken. It does not say, “and to descendants,” as concerning many, but as concerning one, “and to your descendant,” who is Christ.

Christ is the seed.

Therefore, being in Christ will cause the salvation of the one in him.

 

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Again

Christ in Heb 2

Hebrews 2:5–18 (LEB) — 5 For he did not subject to angels the world to come, about which we are speaking. 6 But someone testified somewhere, saying, “What is man, that you remember him, or the son of man, that you care for him? 7 You made him for a short time lower than the angels; you crowned him with glory and honor; 8 you subjected all things under his feet. For in subjecting all things, he left nothing that was not subject to him. But now we do not yet see all things subjected to him, 9 but we see Jesus, for a short time made lower than the angels, because of the suffering of death crowned with glory and honor, so that apart from God he might taste death on behalf of everyone. 10 For it was fitting for him for whom are all things and through whom are all things in bringing many sons to glory to perfect the originator of their salvation through sufferings. 11 For both the one who sanctifies and the ones who are sanctified are all from one, for which reason he is not ashamed to call them brothers, 12 saying, “I will proclaim your name to my brothers; in the midst of the assembly I will sing in praise of you.” 13 And again, “I will trust in him.” And again, “Behold, I and the children God has given me.” 14 Therefore, since the children share in blood and flesh, he also in like manner shared in these same things, in order that through death he could destroy the one who has the power of death, that is, the devil, 15 and could set free these who through fear of death were subject to slavery throughout all their lives. 16 For surely he is not concerned with angels, but he is concerned with the descendants of Abraham. 17 Therefore he was obligated to be made like his brothers in all respects, in order that he could become a merciful and faithful high priest in the things relating to God, in order to make atonement for the sins of the people. 18 For in that which he himself suffered when he was tempted, he is able to help those who are tempted.

and also

Galatians 3:16 (LEB) — 16 Now to Abraham and to his descendant the promises were spoken. It does not say, “and to descendants,” as concerning many, but as concerning one, “and to your descendant,” who is Christ.

Christ is the seed.

Therefore, being in Christ will cause the salvation of the one in him.

Hebrews proves salvation is for a chosen covenant people. Redemption is for the special seed that is called Heb 9:12-15

12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.

13 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:

14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.

 

[TomL]

Hebrews proves salvation is for a chosen covenant people. Redemption is for the special seed that is called Heb 9:12-15

12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.

13 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:

14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.

Nothing shows the seed are unconditionally predestined men before the foundation of the world.

 

[brightfame52]

Nothing shows the seed are unconditionally predestined men before the foundation of the world.

Nothing shows you. Besides dont get side tracked, Hebrews shows salvation for s particular people by means of the New Covenant, the people is the House of Israel, a chosen people Heb 8

 

[TomL]

Nothing shows you. Besides dont get side tracked, Hebrews shows salvation for s particular people by means of the New Covenant, the people is the House of Israel, a chosen people Heb 8

The passage simply does not show what your theology assumes.

As I noted

Nothing shows the seed are unconditionally predestined men before the foundation of the world.