The Hypostatic Union- the 2 Natures in Christ

Awesome. That's the way to do it.

and be found in Him, not having my own righteousness, which is from the law,
but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith; (Phil. 3:9 NKJ)

For if by the one man's offense death reigned through the one,
much more those who receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness
will reign in life through the One, Jesus Christ (Rom. 5:17 NKJ)
Romans 6
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16
We may not live in sin
1 What then shall we say? are we still to continue in sin that favour may abound?
for we are dead unto it
2 Far be it! we who have died unto sin, how, any longer, shall we live therein?
as appears by our baptism
3 Or know ye not that, we, as many as were immersed into Christ [Jesus], into his death were immersed? 4 We were, therefore, buried together with him through our immersion into his death, in order that––just as Christ was raised from among the dead through the glory of the Father, so, we also, in newness of life should walk. 5 For, if we have come to be grown together in the likeness of his death, certainly, in that of his resurrection also, shall we be. 6 Of this taking note––that, our old man, was crucified together with him in order that the sinful body might be made powerless, that we should, no longer, be in servitude to sin; 7 For, he that hath died, hath become righteously acquitted from his sin. 8 Now, if we have died together with Christ, we believe that we shall also live together with him; 9 Knowing that, Christ having been raised from among the dead, no more dieth,––death, over him, no more, hath lordship,–– 10 For, in that he died, unto sin, died he once for all, but, in that he liveth, he liveth unto God. 11 So, ye also, be reckoning yourselves to be––dead indeed unto sin, but, alive unto God in Christ Jesus.
Let not sin reign any more
12 Let not sin, therefore, reign in your death–doomed body, that ye should be obedient to its covetings; 13 Neither be presenting your members as weapons of unrighteousness unto sin, but present yourselves unto God as though alive from among the dead, and your members as weapons of righteousness unto God; 14 For, sin, over you, shall not have lordship, for ye are not under law, but under favour. 15 What then? Shall we sin, because we are not under law but under favour? Far be it! 16 Know ye not that, unto whom ye are presenting yourselves as servants for obedience, servants ye are unto [him unto] whom ye are obedient, whether of sin unto death or of obedience unto righteousness? 17 But thanks be unto God, that––whereas ye were servants of sin, ye became obedient out of the heart unto the mould of teaching into which ye were delivered;
because we have yielded ourselves to the service of righteousness
18 And, being freed from sin, ye were made servants unto righteousness; –– 19 In human fashion am I speaking, because of the weakness of your flesh; ––for, just as ye presented your members as servants unto impurity and unto lawlessness [for lawlessness], so now, present ye your members as servants unto righteousness for sanctification. 20 For, when ye were servants of sin, ye were free as to righteousness; –– 21 What fruit, therefore, had ye then––in things for which ye now are taking shame to yourselves? For, the end of those things, is death. 22 Whereas, now, having been freed from sin, and made servants unto God, ye have your fruit for sanctification and, the end, life age–abiding.
and for that death is the wages of sin
23 For, the wages of sin, is death; but, God’s gift of favour, is life age–abiding, in Christ Jesus our Lord.
ROT.
 
Heb 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
as: Gen_3:19; 2Sa_14:14; Job_14:5, Job_30:23; Psa_89:48; Ecc_3:20, Ecc_9:5, Ecc_9:10, Ecc_12:7; Rom_5:12
but: Heb_6:2; Job_19:25; Ecc_11:9, Ecc_12:14; Mat_25:31-46; Joh_5:26-29; Act_17:31; Rom_2:5, Rom_14:9-12; 1Co_4:5; 2Co_5:10; 2Ti_4:1; Jud_1:15; Rev_20:11

Time is short-and has been shortened and we are to redeem the precious time we have-keep up the good work.
J.
Time is shorter than you know. :)
 
Hey.

I'm the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus!

I'm the apple of God's eye!

And I'm the chief among sinners.
.. by the grace of God. :)

... and you're not the last. God made sure that "honour" went to Paul by putting it in the scriptures. That way no-one can boast on the basis of self-pity as some like to do. ;)
 
I might be in the top 60 percentile.

Who knows.
Phil.3:13-15
13 Brethren, I do not consider that I have made it my own; but one thing I do, forgetting what lies behind and straining forward to what lies ahead, 14 I press on toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus. 15 Let those of us who are mature be thus minded; and if in anything you are otherwise minded, God will reveal that also to you.

Wherever you rate, it is yesterday's news. :)
 
Self-pity?
Ever read Romans 7?
I knew Romans 7 by the time I was six years old. I had no idea it was in the Bible.

I was referring to the type of person who thinks they are humble by telling everyone what a terrible sinner they are. I'm sure you have met the type I mean even if I have not described them very well.
It is not that we don't recognise the awfulness of sin and the state we are in apart from Christ, but it is to Him we should point and His glorious state, not to ourselves.
 
@Complete , I did some research on my question below:

The answer is neither. Sleep is a subconscious state. So you cannot point to "sleep" Bible verses and claim those verses promote the idea that the dead are unconscious before the Resurrection.

'And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain;
ye are yet in your sins.
Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished.
If in this life only we have hope in Christ,
we are of all men most miserable.
But now is Christ risen from the dead,
and become the firstfruits of them that slept.'
For since by man came death,
by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
For as in Adam all die,
even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
But every man in his own order:
Christ the firstfruits;
afterward they that are Christ's
at His coming. '

(1Cor. 15:23)

Praise God!
 
Ammmmen, sister.

And now let us meditate upon the very words of God spoken to us:


5 The same thing, esteem, in yourselves, which also, in Christ Jesus, [ye esteem],--
6 Who, in form of God, subsisting, not, a thing to be seized, accounted the being equal with God,
7 But, himself, emptied, taking, a servant's form, coming to be, in men's likeness;
8 And, in fashion, being found, as a man, humbled himself, becoming obedient as far as death, yea, death upon a cross.
9 Wherefore also, God, uplifted him far on high, and favoured him with the name which is above every name,--
(Phil. 2:5-9 ROT)
'Let this mind be in you,
which was also in Christ Jesus:

Who, being in the form of God,
thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
But made Himself of no reputation,
and took upon Him the form of a servant,
and was made in the likeness of men:
And being found in fashion as a man,
He humbled Himself,
and became obedient unto death,
even the death of the cross.
Wherefore God also hath highly exalted Him,
and given Him a name which is above every name:'
That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father.'

(Php 2:5-11 KJV)

Praise God!
 
Would you classify the answering of the following question as "profane and vain babbling"?

(Mark 8:29) He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?

Of course not, @synergy. I should be happy to be enabled by God, as Peter was, to answer in the way that he did:-

'And Simon Peter answered and said,
Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
And Jesus answered and said unto him,
Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona:
for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee,
but My Father which is in heaven.'

(Mat 16:16-17)

:)
 
'And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain;
ye are yet in your sins.
Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished.
If in this life only we have hope in Christ,
we are of all men most miserable.
But now is Christ risen from the dead,
and become the firstfruits of them that slept.'
For since by man came death,
by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
For as in Adam all die,
even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
But every man in his own order:
Christ the firstfruits;
afterward they that are Christ's
at His coming. '

(1Cor. 15:23)

Praise God!
Wonderful verses but are those "that sleep" in a subconscious state or a unconscious state?
 
Of course not, @synergy. I should be happy to be enabled by God, as Peter was, to answer in the way that he did:-

'And Simon Peter answered and said,
Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
And Jesus answered and said unto him,

Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona:
for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee,

but My Father which is in heaven.'
(Mat 16:16-17)

:)
Please be clear when you issue out warnings about "profane and vain babbling" because a significant portion of this thread is directly related to that question.
 
They're all "soul dreaming."

And Jesus took a "soul nap."

:)
Those verses talk about "sleep" but what about the verses in Revelation that talk about very conscious dead souls who ask how much longer must they keep waiting before justice is done? Are you saying that those conscious souls have more spiritual awareness than "Jesus [who] took a "soul nap.""?
 
Wonderful verses but are those "that sleep" in a subconscious state or a unconscious state?
Hello @synergy,

God perceives the believer who dies to be 'asleep in Christ' because each has the hope of resurrection life in Christ Jesus. In the same way, God identifies the believer with Christ, and perceives Him, while living, to have died with Christ, been buried, quickened and raised with Him and ascended with Him, to God's right hand. This is God's reckoning of faith, which we are also to reckon on. As we are also to reckon ourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God, in Christ Jesus. This is all by faith.

When the body dies the breath of life goes back to God who gave it, so there is no consciousness in death. Only the power of the resurrection can quicken us into life again.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
 
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Those verses talk about "sleep" but what about the verses in Revelation that talk about very conscious dead souls who ask how much longer must they keep waiting before justice is done? Are you saying that those conscious souls have more spiritual awareness than "Jesus [who] took a "soul nap.""?

Yeah, I don't believe in soul sleep.

The rich man and Lazarus puts that old idea to bed.

No pun intended. 😎
 
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