The Holy Spirit

Men who say they are men, I believe. Men who say they are God, I don't believe. Jesus never said he is God. Even God said He isn't a man. I don't know why you don't really believe anything they directly say.

You know, the real world exists too. We don't have to always have our head in the clouds about everything with lofty ideas. Sometimes a man is just a man who was anointed, empowered, exalted, and glorified by God. Maybe you have to think Jesus is God because you don't have the power he did? Do you think you can do greater works than God? Jesus said his followers could do greater works than him.

And to answer your question, in the Bible people are in the image of God already, such as how James 3:9 says.
Do you think you can do greater works than God? Jesus said his followers could do greater works than him.
lets see,
John 14:12 "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father."

do you understand that? did you get the catch phrase? ... (smile).

now this, Matthew 17:20 "And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you." did you get the catch phrase there also?

but is the servant ..... "GREATER" ... THAN HIS MASTER? "and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father."

DO YOU UNDERSTAND ...now?" think before you answer.

101G
 
@Runningman
Men who say they are God, I don't believe
if you're God do you have to say that you're, to be God? do a Christian have to say that they are a Christian just to prove to someone that they are a Christian. do not their fruit bare them out? are you not known for one's works? if some one call you a dog, and you're not a dog, why then are you barking? understanding 101G now... good ok

the Lord Jesus, he transfigured himself, and his face shone as the sun. now if the Lord Jesus was a mere man as you and 101G then transfigure yourself, just as the Lord JESUS did. just let 101G know when so that 101G can put on his sunglasses.

Matthew 17:1 "And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into an high mountain apart," Matthew 17:2 "And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light."

101G
 
To all.
Diversified Oneness = Holy Spirit who holds both titles in DIVERSITY, or EQUAL SHARE, "Father/LORD Spirit", Ordinal designation THE First . the same One PERSON, EQUALLY SHARED in Flesh and bone with blood, "Son/Lord spirit", Ordinal designation THE Last.

Easy, JESUS the H.S. = Title Father, Spirit, and come in flesh, Title son, spirit, as a man.

101G.
 
@Runningman

if you're God do you have to say that you're, to be God? do a Christian have to say that they are a Christian just to prove to someone that they are a Christian. do not their fruit bare them out? are you not known for one's works? if some one call you a dog, and you're not a dog, why then are you barking? understanding 101G now... good ok

the Lord Jesus, he transfigured himself, and his face shone as the sun. now if the Lord Jesus was a mere man as you and 101G then transfigure yourself, just as the Lord JESUS did. just let 101G know when so that 101G can put on his sunglasses.

Matthew 17:1 "And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into an high mountain apart," Matthew 17:2 "And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light."

101G
Scripture teaches God is not a human. That rules out Jesus.

Hosea 11
9I will not execute the full fury of My anger;
I will not destroy Ephraim again.
For I am God and not man—
the Holy One among you—
and I will not come in wrath.

And Scripture teaches the transfiguration was a vision.

Matthew 17
9As they were coming down the mountain, Jesus commanded them, “Do not tell anyone about this vision until the Son of Man has been raised from the dead.”

So you don't really have any points.
 
Do you think you can do greater works than God? Jesus said his followers could do greater works than him.
lets see,
John 14:12 "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father."

do you understand that? did you get the catch phrase? ... (smile).

now this, Matthew 17:20 "And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you." did you get the catch phrase there also?

but is the servant ..... "GREATER" ... THAN HIS MASTER? "and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father."

DO YOU UNDERSTAND ...now?" think before you answer.

101G
Wow, you must have a secret decoder ring to understand Jesus with. Whoever said Jesus was just using a catchphrase? Did you see all of the greater works that the apostles did than Jesus? Think, Jesus worked for 3 or 4 years, the apostles worked for longer doing the same miracles.
 
Scripture teaches God is not a human. That rules out Jesus.
Hosea 11:9 "I will not execute the fierceness of mine anger, I will not return to destroy Ephraim: for I am God, and not man; the Holy One in the midst of thee: and I will not enter into the city."

God is not a man HOW? God is gracious and merciful, longsuffering, slow to anger, and pardoning sin, and not man, who is cruel, revengeful, implacable, who shows no mercy when it is in the power of his hands to avenge himself.

just as in this verse. Numbers 23:19 "God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?"

so, in both cases God is not a man who do those things.... (smile). but is God a MAN? let's hear the words out of God mouth. Listen and Learn. Isaiah 42:13 "The LORD shall go forth as a mighty man, he shall stir up jealousy like a man of war: he shall cry, yea, roar; he shall prevail against his enemies."

Now let's see it clearly, Philippians 2:6 "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:" Philippians 2:7 "But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:" Philippians 2:8 "And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross."

FASHION: G4976 σχῆμα schema (schee'-ma) n.
1. a figure (as a mode or circumstance).
2. (by implication) external condition.
[from the alternate of G2192]
KJV: fashion
Root(s): G2192

definition #2. external condition, yes, flesh bone and blood, a MAN. just as US. (smile)... Oh boy when will they ever learn.

101G.
 
Yes. Do men need to say they are not God?
no,
Wow, you must have a secret decoder ring to understand Jesus with. Whoever said Jesus was just using a catchphrase? Did you see all of the greater works that the apostles did than Jesus? Think, Jesus worked for 3 or 4 years, the apostles worked for longer doing the same miracles.
(smile), lol, lol, lol, oh boy... listen and Learn, is that "GREATER" in quantity or quality.... my God.... yes 101G has a decoder ring, called the Holy Spirit.

this is just 2 easy.

101G.
 
Well Run, may 101G ask you a question. John 1:3 "All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made."

the Word here in John 1:1 is this not the Lord Jesus, yes or No? if yes, is this not the same one person in Isaiah 44:24 who MADE ALL THINGS? "Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;"

he was alone and by himself.

NOW THINK, if this is the same one person who MADE ALL THINGS, was not he made flesh, meaning a MAN? lest see, John 1:14 "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth."

case closed.

101G.
 
to all,
a quick lesson on Appearing vs manifestation. Hosea 12:10 "I have also spoken by the prophets, and I have multiplied visions, and used similitudes, by the ministry of the prophets."

when one can understand the realness of a similitude and a vision, the one can know and understand the difference between Appearing vs manifestation.

101G
 
Hosea 11:9 "I will not execute the fierceness of mine anger, I will not return to destroy Ephraim: for I am God, and not man; the Holy One in the midst of thee: and I will not enter into the city."

God is not a man HOW? God is gracious and merciful, longsuffering, slow to anger, and pardoning sin, and not man, who is cruel, revengeful, implacable, who shows no mercy when it is in the power of his hands to avenge himself.

just as in this verse. Numbers 23:19 "God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?"

so, in both cases God is not a man who do those things.... (smile). but is God a MAN? let's hear the words out of God mouth. Listen and Learn. Isaiah 42:13 "The LORD shall go forth as a mighty man, he shall stir up jealousy like a man of war: he shall cry, yea, roar; he shall prevail against his enemies."

Now let's see it clearly, Philippians 2:6 "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:" Philippians 2:7 "But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:" Philippians 2:8 "And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross."

FASHION: G4976 σχῆμα schema (schee'-ma) n.
1. a figure (as a mode or circumstance).
2. (by implication) external condition.
[from the alternate of G2192]
KJV: fashion
Root(s): G2192

definition #2. external condition, yes, flesh bone and blood, a MAN. just as US. (smile)... Oh boy when will they ever learn.

101G.
The Bible says God is not a man. Maybe that's what it literally means. Maybe God changed His mind? Ok let's look at what else God said.... nothing but crickets about becoming a man, incarnating as a man, etc.

Did you read Philippians 2:5-8? It's a teaching to have the mind of Jesus, yes? That's what the context is about. I would also ask you, who is the only one who is called God in the entire chapter?

Jesus is an exalted human, while God is not an exalted human. God is the Father who gets all the glory. And you will bow, not to the glory of Jesus, but to the glory of God the Father. Right?

Philippians 2
9Therefore God exalted Him to the highest place
and gave Him the name above all names,
10that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father.
 
no,

(smile), lol, lol, lol, oh boy... listen and Learn, is that "GREATER" in quantity or quality.... my God.... yes 101G has a decoder ring, called the Holy Spirit.

this is just 2 easy.

101G.
You tell me. What is a greater work that Jesus did than the others?
 
Well Run, may 101G ask you a question. John 1:3 "All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made."

the Word here in John 1:1 is this not the Lord Jesus, yes or No? if yes, is this not the same one person in Isaiah 44:24 who MADE ALL THINGS? "Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;"

he was alone and by himself.

NOW THINK, if this is the same one person who MADE ALL THINGS, was not he made flesh, meaning a MAN? lest see, John 1:14 "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth."

case closed.

101G.
Better reopen that case because John 1:3, 14 proves that Jesus was himself made. He was created. Begin with Colossians 1:15 and Revelation 3:14 which both state Jesus is a creation. Let me guess, these debunk your narrative so you're going to bend over backwards to argue against them.

Colossians 1
15Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

Revelation 3
14And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;
 
Did you read Philippians 2:5-8? It's a teaching to have the mind of Jesus, yes? That's what the context is about. I would also ask you, who is the only one who is called God in the entire chapter?
Error, it's also about his deity in flesh, for.... Philippians 2:6 "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:" "being " here is present tense, and form here has nothing to do with the Lord Jesus mind. it's his "NATURE" . for the term "FORM" is the Greek word, G3444 μορφή morphe (mor-fee') n.
1. form.
2. (intrinsically) fundamental nature.
[perhaps from the base of G3313 (through the idea of adjustment of parts)]
KJV: form
Root(s): G3313

notice definition #2. (intrinsically)..... meaning, Belonging to the real nature of something or someone. and that Belonging to, intrinsically is describe in it's roots as the definition clearly states. [perhaps from the base of G3313 (through the idea of adjustment of parts)] so what do G3313 means? answer, G3313 μέρος meros (me'-ros) n.
1. a portion (i.e. an amount allotted, a part of something).
2. a part.

there is our answer, the EQUAL NATURE "WITH" God is a "PORTION", and another word for "PORTION" is .... "SHARE". so the Lord Jesus nature, is the EQUAL SHARE of himself in flesh..... just as 101G said and been saying. for the term "Portion" meaning the equal "SHARE" can be found at word hippo, https://www.wordhippo.com/what-is/another-word-for/portion.html understanding the heading, "A part of a whole". all of 101G's finding can be reproduce. the dictionary 101G is using here in this post came from the Mickelson's Enhanced Strong's Dictionaries of the Greek and Hebrew Testaments.

this is where... and how 101G knows that God is the diversity, or a plurality of himself in flesh as a man, better known as the "Offspring" of David/son of David, or the Last, the Last Adam, hence the reason for God IMAGE... (smile), which was to come.

any question, just ask.

101G.
 
You tell me. What is a greater work that Jesus did than the others?
Greater in Number, or amount. while on earth in flesh, he could heal one at a time. please understand the term "GREATER" and how it is used in context.
John 14:12 "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father."

GREATER: G3187 μείζων meizon (mei'-zōn) adj.
larger (specially, in age).
{literally or figuratively}
[irregular comparative of G3173]
KJV: elder, greater(-est), more
Root(s): G3173

now, Dictionary.com as an Adjective, (of a city) considered with the inclusion of the outer suburbs: Greater London. here, the definitions are indicating quantity, (MORE), instead of quality, (SUPERIOR).
quantity: "an exact or specified amount or measure". look at these capitalize words above real good, and lets get an understanding.

What did Jesus mean, "The Father is Greater than I",​
Greater: G3187 meizon (meid'-zone), indicate quality, or quantity. in the book of Romans 12:3 it states, "For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith". this verse gives us the understanding of quantity, and quality. every man is the same, (quality), no man is superior to another, so there's no rank. also as with MALES and FEMALES in the kingdom of GOD. the same Spirit is in every man/female. and every man/female is given the same amount or the same quantity of Faith. so likewise as the same Spirit that manifest in that fleshly body, the nature of the Spirit did not change in quality, only the quantity is limited to that one body, other words his Omni attributes was limited. let’s look at this in John the 14th. chapter. here, the Lord Jesus is speaking of the work of salvation. as the Spirit was in Christ, (the flesh), the man, he was limited, by that fleshly body with BLOOD, because of his G2758 κενόω kenoo (ke-no-ō') state, while in Flesh. understand, the Lord Jesus didn't go into all the world while he was here on earth in flesh and blood. he was limited in his work of salvation, because of that body he was in. but to see this clearly, watch the WORKS and how it is used. John 14:12 "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father". see that word "greater" here in verse 12. it is the same word, "greater", the Lord Jesus uses in verse 28. wait a minute, is Jesus saying that men who believe is GREATER than him in power, (quality), as we been led to assume as to what greater means? NO. so what is the Lord Jesus really saying, as I have said, GREATER, have several meaning, depending on how you used it in context, or out of context, as many have done. but let the bible explain itself, and reveal the TRUTH.
In context the meaning, greater as in quantity, and not in quality. greater used as an adjective, it means, "more" as in more believers to do the SAME quality of work, because it is the Lord who do the work, (henxe the reason of going to the Father). so now the work he is doing will be a greater number, as in them/us doing the same quality of work he was doing as an individual. more, or greater in quantity, not in quality, because he said, John 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works, (there it is), than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father". so we who believe will do the SAME works, but now we have millions of Jesus/Christians doing the same quality of works at the same time because he go to this “Spirit/Father. and in Spirit/the Holy Spirit he empowers all believers with “gifts”. so greater here means more. let’s look at the answer to this millions of Jesus at work, for we’re co-worker with him. listen, John 14:14 "If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it". see it, those who ask in his name, why because he a believer, and if you're a believer, then born again, and being born again, you have the Spirit, and the Spirit dwells in you. this work is only for born again believers. because the scripture states, "ask, and it shall be given unto you", but there is a way to ask, because Jesus said "If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you". see anyone can ask, but if Jesus/the Spirit/God abide in you then ask, and it will be done, (and he's not talking about prayer either). that's why baptism is so important. because baptism, "KILLS", meaning stone DEAD, the sinful NATURE. hence one die to the sinful nature only ONCE, that means the Holy Spirit can come and live in us, and reside/abide in us forever. for you are born of God and his seed remain in you.

and with the GIFTS of the Holy Spirit in all of us, hence he cand do more in Spirit than limited in flesh and blood. understand, there is no improvement that one can do in raising the dead or healing the sick.

hope that helps.

101G.
 
Better reopen that case because John 1:3, 14 proves that Jesus was himself made. He was created. Begin with Colossians 1:15 and Revelation 3:14 which both state Jesus is a creation. Let me guess, these debunk your narrative so you're going to bend over backwards to argue against them.

Colossians 1
15Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

Revelation 3
14And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;
Oh my ... Run, listen carefully and clearly, this made is by putting on or "TOOK ON", and was not a PARTAKER of flesh. listen and learn, Hebrews 2:14 "Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;"

what's the difference between "Took part" vs "Partaker". understand he took on or put on flesh and blood. let's see what was made, Hebrews 10:5 "Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:" THAT'S WHAT WAS "MADE". he was before the body was even made, because he made the world and EVERYTHING in it... Hello .... LOL, LOL, Oh my..... a body by the virgin Mary, that's what was .. MADE.

and as for the scripture, Revelation 3:14And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God/

the Lord Jesus is the "FIRST MAN", or the "NEW MAN"... (smile), in the new creation of God himself.... oh my this is 2 easy.

101G.
 
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