The Gospel Of Salvation

[brightfame52]

@TomL

I am talking about Jesus who died for all, all men, the world, the whole world , the nation etc

If its not the Jesus who died for and saved, exclusively Gods elect, then its a false jesus. The Jesus of scripture came to save exclusively His People Matt 1:21, that should be emphasized in the proclaiming explaining of the Gospel

 

[brightfame52]

@TomL

Naturally you ignore it

You never give it, you put it off on others.

 

[brightfame52]

@TomL

You are adding to scripture

No Im not, Im witnessing to scripture

 

[TomL]

@TomL



No Im not, Im witnessing to scripture

Nope you are fabricating again adding the word exclusively

The word exclusively does not appear in the text

That is not an honest effect

Does Paul say Jesus died for me mean he died for no other?

of course not

 

[TomL]

@TomL



You never give it, you put it off on others.

Still continuing to fabricate I see

The gospel concerns the life, death and resurrection of Jesus

1 Corinthians 15:3–8 (KJV 1900) — 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: 5 And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve: 6 After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep. 7 After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles. 8 And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.

There is no TULIP mentioned there.

 

[brightfame52]

Nope you are fabricating again adding the word exclusively

Exclusively may not appear, but its true. For you to go beyond what is specified is conjecture, not specified fact. What I called exclusive was specified/particularized

 

[brightfame52]

Still continuing to fabricate I see

The gospel concerns the life, death and resurrection of Jesus

1 Corinthians 15:3–8 (KJV 1900) — 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: 5 And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve: 6 After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep. 7 After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles. 8 And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.

There is no TULIP mentioned there.

Yes,but what Jesus. Who is He and what did He accomplish ? You need to xplain that. I know cults that will say they agree wholeheartedly with 1 Cor 15:3-8 and then say Jesus wasn't God. Do you believe the Christ of 1 Cor 15:3-4 is Godin the flesh ?

 

[Behold]

So 1 Cor 1:18 can read The teaching about the cross seems foolish to those who are lost. But to us who are being saved it is the power of God.

Every single person is "lost".. until they give God their Faith in Christ.. which He accepts as our "Faith is counted by God"...

So, the entire "WORLD of humanity ", is lost...("For God so love the WORLD (John 3:16")... until they come to Jesus by Faith.

Everyone is offered The Cross of Christ, as The Cross of Christ is THE universal OFFER of Salvation to "The World"... (John 3:16)

 

[brightfame52]

@Behold

Every single person is "lost".

Not after Jesus saves them from their lost state, then they can and will believe the Gospel

 

[brightfame52]

@Behold

Everyone is offered The Cross of Christ, as The Cross of Christ is THE universal OFFER of Salvation to "The World"... (John 3:16)

False, and John 3:16 says absolutely nothing about any offer.

 

[Behold]

@Behold
False, and John 3:16 says absolutely nothing about any offer.

You are a deceiver, according to your own words.

In fact even 5 yr olds in a summer school bible class , know that John 3:16, is God offering Jesus to everyone.........

So, why can't you understand this? @brightfame52

Its because "TULIP" has darkened your mind to the Gospel.

The Eternal offer in John 3:16 is to "whosoever".......and the actual offer is "the only Begotten Son".....and if the "whosoever" will believe they will have "everlasting Life".

 

[Behold]

@Behold

Not after Jesus saves them from their lost state, then they can and will believe the Gospel

The post i responded to said that only some were lost......so that post is the false comment offered by a "predestined elect" "the 5 Points" worshiping fool.

 

[brightfame52]

You are a deceiver, according to your own words.

In fact even 5 yr olds in a summer school bible class , know that John 3:16, is God offering Jesus to everyone.........

So, why can't you understand this? @brightfame52

Its because "TULIP" has darkened your mind to the Gospel.

The Eternal offer in John 3:16 is to "whosoever".......and the actual offer is "the only Begotten Son".....and if the "whosoever" will believe they will have "everlasting Life".

False, and John 3:16 says absolutely nothing about any offer.

 

[brightfame52]

The post i responded to said that only some were lost......so that post is the false comment offered by a "predestined elect" "the 5 Points" worshiping fool.

A person doest believe the Gospel until after they are saved. The Gospel is food for new born babes, hence Jesus told Peter to feed His Lambs and Sheep, that starts with the Gospel

 

[MTMattie]

False, and John 3:16 says absolutely nothing about any offer.

Even YOU cannot possibly twist this backwards... but you did.

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Belief comes before the gift of everlasting life.... EXACTLY as it is written.

 

[brightfame52]

Even YOU cannot possibly twist this backwards... but you did.

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Belief comes before the gift of everlasting life.... EXACTLY as it is written.

Nothing about Jn 3:16 is an offer, save Christ having been offered up to the Father as a Sacrifice

 

[MTMattie]

Nothing about Jn 3:16 is an offer, save Christ having been offered up to the Father as a Sacrifice

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

The offer is everlasting life to those who will believe on His only begotten Son that He gave up.

The offer is life. To receive the offered life you must believe on Jesus.

IT CANNOT BE ANY MORE EASIER TO UNDERSTAND THEN THIS. If you dont see it, that will be your proof that God is keeping you blinded for what ever reason.

 

[Selah]

Nothing about Jn 3:16 is an offer, save Christ having been offered up to the Father as a Sacrifice

…and that is the most Wonderful offer in the whole wide world. Who will accept this offer? …a faithful believer will!

 

[TomL]

Yes,but what Jesus. Who is He and what did He accomplish ? You need to xplain that. I know cults that will say they agree wholeheartedly with 1 Cor 15:3-8 and then say Jesus wasn't God. Do you believe the Christ of 1 Cor 15:3-4 is Godin the flesh ?

TULIP does not define Jesus


The gospel concerns the life, death and resurrection of Jesus

1 Corinthians 15:3–8 (KJV 1900) — 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: 5 And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve: 6 After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep. 7 After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles. 8 And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.

There is no TULIP mentioned there.

 

[brightfame52]

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

The offer is everlasting life to those who will believe on His only begotten Son that He gave up.

The offer is life. To receive the offered life you must believe on Jesus.

IT CANNOT BE ANY MORE EASIER TO UNDERSTAND THEN THIS. If you dont see it, that will be your proof that God is keeping you blinded for what ever reason.

Its hard for you to understand this:

Nothing about Jn 3:16 is an offer