brightfame52
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The Gospel isnt an offer, Jesus Christ isnt an offer
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There is, in fact, an offer of the son to the world and those that believe will be saved
John 3:14–17 (LEB) — 14 And just as Moses lifted up the snake in the wilderness, thus it is necessary that the Son of Man be lifted up, 15 so that everyone who believes in him will have eternal life.” 16 For in this way God loved the world, so that he gave his one and only Son, in order that everyone who believes in him will not perish, but will have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world in order that he should judge the world, but in order that the world should be saved through him.
brightfame52
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There is not one offer made in Jn 3 at all
scripture shows otherwise
There is, in fact, an offer of the son to the world and those that believe will be saved
John 3:14–17 (LEB) — 14 And just as Moses lifted up the snake in the wilderness, thus it is necessary that the Son of Man be lifted up, 15 so that everyone who believes in him will have eternal life.” 16 For in this way God loved the world, so that he gave his one and only Son, in order that everyone who believes in him will not perish, but will have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world in order that he should judge the world, but in order that the world should be saved through him.
all who believe on the son may be saved
brightfame52
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no nothing about an offer, you and others have been deceived
Selah
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Selah
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I believe it is, friend. The offer is eternal life through Jesus Christ.
Clearly the son is given to the world
John 3:14–17 (LEB) — 14 And just as Moses lifted up the snake in the wilderness, thus it is necessary that the Son of Man be lifted up, 15 so that everyone who believes in him will have eternal life.” 16 For in this way God loved the world, so that he gave his one and only Son, in order that everyone who believes in him will not perish, but will have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world in order that he should judge the world, but in order that the world should be saved through him.
and all who believe on the son may be saved
that is an offer of salvation conditioned upon faith
brightfame52
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How not so ? Its no offer there, its in your imagination
brightfame52
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Then you are deceived, there's no offer of Christ nor the Gospel ever in scripture. There is the Preaching of the Gospel, but that consists in stating scriptural facts about the Person and work of Christ and His accomplishments.
brightfame52
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Nothing about an offer there, you have been deceived
MTMattie
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Yes. I will and so will you... but the tiptoers thru the TULIP get confused.
MTMattie
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What are you looking for? Avocado toast and coffee?
You are beyond understanding . You are the poster child for John 12:40.
MTMattie
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Hear ye, hear ye, hear ye. By example we have John 12: 40.
brightfame52
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I aint looking for nothing. Im telling you there is no offer being made in Jn 3:16 its a fact being declared.
brightfame52
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Now you are just getting out of control
Selah
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Can a fact not be an offer? Sure it can.
which states:
John 12:40 (KJV) He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with [their] eyes, nor understand with [their] heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.
MTMattie
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But at least it IS something new.
Selah
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Hebrews 3:12-15 (NKJV) 12 Beware, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief in departing from the living God; 13 but exhort one another daily, while it is called “Today,” lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin. 14 For we have become partakers of Christ if we hold the beginning of our confidence steadfast to the end, 15 while it is said: “Today, if you will hear His voice, Do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion.”
brightfame52
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Okay, so you think this passage is an offer ?
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