The Gospel Of Salvation

[Eternally-Grateful]

Think, you cant die in your sins if your sin debt has been paid. Duh The only one who is condemned are those whose sin debt hasnt been paid Duh

You can say this until you are blue in the face.

Again, your in error

Yeah,

Because you rejected the offer of salvation in unbelief

He who believes is NOT CONDEMNED

He who DOES NOT BELIEVE is CONDEMENED ALREADY.

These words of Jesus in John 3 destroy your fatalistic thinking. One can only pray one day you finally see what Jesus meant.

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

@Eternally-Grateful



If Christ paid for ones sins, the sin of unbelief is paid for, and taken away.

Um no. That is the only sin that was not paid for. thats why if you do not believe you are condemned already.

Faith or belief is what saves the person..

Thats why everyone Jesus Christ died for have had their sins taken away including unbelief, then they are regenerated and given the Gifts of Faith and Repentance.

Your in error..

 

[civic]

No they were saved, regenerated people with faith already in their heart

Nope that’s an impossibility

Next fallacy

 

[civic]

Um no. That is the only sin that was not paid for. thats why if you do not believe you are condemned already.

Faith or belief is what saves the person..

Your in error..

Grave error indeed. It’s a false gospel in that a person does not need to hear and receive the gospel to be saved.

Paul says it’s accursed in Galatians 1:6-10

 

[brightfame52]

You can say this until you are blue in the face.

Again, your in error

Yeah,

Because you rejected the offer of salvation in unbelief

He who believes is NOT CONDEMNED

He who DOES NOT BELIEVE is CONDEMENED ALREADY.

These words of Jesus in John 3 destroy your fatalistic thinking. One can only pray one day you finally see what Jesus meant.

Think, you cant die in your sins if your sin debt has been paid. Duh The only one who is condemned are those whose sin debt hasnt been paid Duh

 

[brightfame52]

Um no. That is the only sin that was not paid for. thats why if you do not believe you are condemned already.

Faith or belief is what saves the person..

Your in error..

If Christ paid for ones sins, the sin of unbelief is paid for, and taken away.

 

[brightfame52]

Nope that’s an impossibility

Next fallacy

No, they already had Faith in their heart, Paul said the word was in their heart already Rom 10:8

But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;

Thats a regenerated person

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

If Christ paid for ones sins, the sin of unbelief is paid for, and taken away.

ONE MORE TIME

IF YOU BELIEVE YOU ARE NOT CONDEMNED
IF YOU FAIL TO REPENT AND REMAIN IN UNBELIEF YOU ARE CONDEMNED ALREADY.

ALL MANNER OF SIN WILL (NOT MIGHT) BE FORGIVEN MEN, BUT ONE SIN WILL NEVER BE FORGIVEN, THAT IS THE SIN OF UNBELIEF.

I do not get what is so hard for a few people to understand the basic truth of the gospel. that they continually have to be told over and over. and it keeps going over their head

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

No, they already had Faith in their heart, Paul said the word was in their heart already Rom 10:8

But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;

Thats a regenerated person

Who already had his sins forgiven and was already justified by faith or else he was still lost under the penalty of sin

 

[brightfame52]

ONE MORE TIME

IF YOU BELIEVE YOU ARE NOT CONDEMNED
IF YOU FAIL TO REPENT AND REMAIN IN UNBELIEF YOU ARE CONDEMNED ALREADY.

ALL MANNER OF SIN WILL (NOT MIGHT) BE FORGIVEN MEN, BUT ONE SIN WILL NEVER BE FORGIVEN, THAT IS THE SIN OF UNBELIEF.

I do not get what is so hard for a few people to understand the basic truth of the gospel. that they continually have to be told over and over. and it keeps going over their head

If Christ paid for ones sins, the sin of unbelief is paid for, and taken away.

 

[brightfame52]

Who already had his sins forgiven and was already justified by faith or else he was still lost under the penalty of sin

They already had Faith, Justification, sins forgiven, they are saved. Paul wrote of their Faith earlier in the epistle Rom 1:8

8 First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all, that your faith is spoken of throughout the whole world.

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

If Christ paid for ones sins, the sin of unbelief is paid for, and taken away.

No.

If unbelief was paid for. then no one would have to believe because their sin would already been paid for.

You need to think openly. and not continuing to try to convince yourself your right.

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

They already had Faith, Justification, sins forgiven, they are saved. Paul wrote of their Faith earlier in the epistle Rom 1:8

8 First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all, that your faith is spoken of throughout the whole world.

They did not have anything until they repented and recieved the gospel in faith.

Until then they were dead in their sin

Yes, their faith was spoken throughout the world. they had great faith. But they had to get saved first. or non of that would matter

 

[brightfame52]

No.

If unbelief was paid for. then no one would have to believe because their sin would already been paid for.

You need to think openly. and not continuing to try to convince yourself your right.

If Christ paid for ones sins, the sin of unbelief is paid for, and taken away.

 

[brightfame52]

They did not have anything until they repented and recieved the gospel in faith.

Until then they were dead in their sin

Yes, their faith was spoken throughout the world. they had great faith. But they had to get saved first. or non of that would matter

Yes they already had Faith, Paul heard about their Faith and he wanted to preach the Gospel to them at Rome Rom 1:8

8 irst, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all, that your faith is spoken of throughout the whole world.

15 So, as much as in me is, I am ready to preach the gospel to you that are at Rome also.

Paul wants to be delivered away from unbelievers who dont have faith, not preach to them 2 Thess 3:1-2

Finally, brethren, pray for us, that the word of the Lord may have free course, and be glorified, even as it is with you:

2 And that we may be delivered from unreasonable and wicked men: for all men have not faith.

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

If Christ paid for ones sins, the sin of unbelief is paid for, and taken away.

then you do not need to be saved.

Good day sir. You can keep saying the same stuff over and over, it does not make it true

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

Yes they already had Faith, Paul heard about their Faith and he wanted to preach the Gospel to them at Rome Rom 1:8

8 irst, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all, that your faith is spoken of throughout the whole world.

15 So, as much as in me is, I am ready to preach the gospel to you that are at Rome also.

Paul wants to be delivered away from unbelievers who dont have faith, not preach to them 2 Thess 3:1-2

Finally, brethren, pray for us, that the word of the Lord may have free course, and be glorified, even as it is with you:

2 And that we may be delivered from unreasonable and wicked men: for all men have not faith.

no. if they already had faith. then the moment they trusted they were justified and regeneratoed.

 

[TomL]

One is already saved to do that, its about assurance of salvation, and in the context it was about elect jews Paul was praying for Rom10:1-4

Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.

2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.

3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.

4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

Do you see the word assurance?

Do you see the phrase shall be saved?

What must they do to shall be saved?

Romans 10:9–17 (KJV 1900) — 9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. 12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. 13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. 14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? 15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things! 16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report? 17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God

 

[civic]

They did not have anything until they repented and recieved the gospel in faith.

Until then they were dead in their sin

Yes, their faith was spoken throughout the world. they had great faith. But they had to get saved first. or non of that would matter

Amen we are witnessing a cart before the horse gospel which is a false gospel

 

[brightfame52]

then you do not need to be saved.

Good day sir. You can keep saying the same stuff over and over, it does not make it true

If Christ paid for ones sins, the sin of unbelief is paid for, and taken away. And yes a forgiven man still needs to be converted, and saved from the power of sin. Thats why he will be regenerated and then hear about his salvation by the Gospel.