civic
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Amen which gives us life- He is the Resurrection and the life.
The Gospel Of Salvation
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civic
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Yes the Great I AM.
brightfame52
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Are you kidding, they taught the doctrines of Grace, Tulip
dwight92070
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Okay, maybe you're not Calvinist, I don't know. But it reminded me of something I heard R.C. Sproul say years ago.
He said EVERYONE JUSTLY DESERVES HELL, so if God decides He's going to save part of mankind, but not all of mankind, that's His prerogative. And He's not being unjust to damn the other part of mankind because they still are just getting what they deserve anyway.
So you started out the same way Sproul did - i.e. none of us deserve salvation, we all deserve hell, so I thought you were just repeating what Sproul said above. Sorry.
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dwight92070
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Imagine a science fiction story in which in a future time an advanced group of scientists learn how to create human-like creatures. Imagine that some of these creatures are created to be tortured for the pleasure of these scientists. Would we not conclude that the scientists in our fictional story were immoral, cruel, and even sadistic for doing such a thing? Has not the Calvinist painted an even worse portrait of God?
Yes he has. Your "god" has NO grace at all, brightfame52, so you are deceived to call it a gospel of grace - actually that's false advertising.
Total Depravity says no lost man even has the ability to repent, unless God makes him repent. That's a lie.
Unconditional Election says that a lost man doesn't have to meet ANY requirement to be saved - there are no conditions. If you have been chosen to be part of His elect, He will save you - you don't do anything. Another lie, one must repent and believe in Jesus.
Limited Atonement says that Christ died only for the chosen/elect, not for everybody else. That's a lie, He died for the sins of the whole world.
Irresistable Grace says that it is impossible to resist His grace in saving you. Another lie. If this was true, people would be saying, "I tried to say "No" to God, but I couldn't - He wouldn't let me. I had no choice.
Perseverance of the Saints says that once you're saved, you will always be saved. You couldn't reject your salvation, even if you wanted to. Lie number five. The New Testament is replete with references to people turning away from the Lord. They don't get to keep their salvation, if they do that.
Yes he has. Your "god" has NO grace at all, brightfame52, so you are deceived to call it a gospel of grace - actually that's false advertising.
Total Depravity says no lost man even has the ability to repent, unless God makes him repent. That's a lie.
Unconditional Election says that a lost man doesn't have to meet ANY requirement to be saved - there are no conditions. If you have been chosen to be part of His elect, He will save you - you don't do anything. Another lie, one must repent and believe in Jesus.
Limited Atonement says that Christ died only for the chosen/elect, not for everybody else. That's a lie, He died for the sins of the whole world.
Irresistable Grace says that it is impossible to resist His grace in saving you. Another lie. If this was true, people would be saying, "I tried to say "No" to God, but I couldn't - He wouldn't let me. I had no choice.
Perseverance of the Saints says that once you're saved, you will always be saved. You couldn't reject your salvation, even if you wanted to. Lie number five. The New Testament is replete with references to people turning away from the Lord. They don't get to keep their salvation, if they do that.
Calvinists have certainly mastered the art of lieing through their teeth. It gets boring to talk to those who lie so much.
DavidTree
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Since CHRIST Breathed in us His Life, should we not breath out the Gospel to the very end.
On the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried out, saying, “If anyone thirsts, let him come to Me and drink.
He who believes in Me, as the Scripture has said, out of his heart will flow rivers of living water.”
e v e
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e v e
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yes thats what the corrupt scroll says about when we came to be in Flesh Nature. But not by God.
Our mother is God's Spirit, our mother is not an ape body -- which God did not make.
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e v e
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when a man stops lusting after fallen flesh and justifying that as 'needs' and acting as if it is 'ok' he will be believed.
this flesh and all its needs and wants Are Sin Nature.
e v e
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the only covenant is to return to Eden paradise. Soon.
Christ made that possible.
jeremiah1five
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God contemplated an elect people in His Mind, in Himself, and they were contemplated ALIVE, and it was then while contemplated as alive that Christ was offered and sacrificed to REDEEM them from the sin of their creation and here their deadness was already addressed before this people were 'plated' in the loins of Adam.
But to say God saw this people "dead" violates the Scripture that says God does not see deadness or iniquity:
13 Thou art of purer eyes than to behold evil, And canst not look on iniquity: Hab. 1:13.
Your statement that God sees sin or death is in direct contradiction to the above passage. Those views through the eyes of God is sinful in and of itself. You need to bring your beliefs in line with Scripture for you are holding to a false, contradictory belief that needs correction (2 Tim. 3:16-17.)
brightfame52
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Who said God said that word ? Thats a man made word
brightfame52
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Im not familiar with that christ, and not interested in it
brightfame52
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God saw His Covenant People Dead, affected by the Fall Eph 2:5, thats why Christ came, it was according to His Eternal Purpose in Christ Eph 3:11
e v e
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God does not conform to the word tulip and never spoke it.
e v e
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Then why do you follow a man made tulip concept which you admit God never said. I bolded and made it red.
brightfame52
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Tulip is the Gospel
brightfame52
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Tulip is the Gospel, the enemies of the Gospel designated it coming from a man.
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